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vulva 12.24.2011 03:47 AM

any of you dudes believe in UFOs
 
or whatever?

Pelle 12.24.2011 06:59 AM

Well, I am very sceptical to UFOs and aliens but I defenitly believe in life in outer space and so on.

If we can exist everything we have once came from outside it's pretty obvious that it exists somewhere else. Maybe not in the same form as we, but it could be some kind of insect or whatever on some planet.

Other intelligence or civilizations, I really don't know.

How about you?

floatingslowly 12.24.2011 10:30 AM

how do you think I got here?

Pelle 12.24.2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Space is so big, there could be anything out there......if not, why is space so big? The way I see it, discussing intelligence civilizations on other planets is a waste of time. Sort of like debating what the other side of the sun looks like......we simply will never know!



Other side of the sun? Well probably exactly as the front of the sun looks like.

Arent there pictures of it?

dirty bunny 12.24.2011 01:39 PM

Yes, I have seen one.

DeadDiscoDildo 12.24.2011 02:40 PM

well, possibley...I would be more inclined to believe in other dimensional beings, if aliens exist that way...than that they came here faster than the speed of light from far away.

and i totally believe in parallel universes etc.

anyone watch the show the universe? or ancient aliens?

Pelle 12.24.2011 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty bunny
Yes, I have seen one.


Alright, how do you know it was a ufo?

What did it "do" ? How did it look like?
basically what did you see?

;)

dirty bunny 12.24.2011 04:40 PM

It looked like a star on the horizon. An unusually bright star. I was outside getting some fresh air. I went back inside, and when I came back to look at it, it had climbed higher in the sky. I thought that was pretty unusual. So I grabbed my binoculars and looked at it again. It had lights all over it. Reddish lights. Then as I watched it through my binoculars it moved straight up in the sky and over my house.

EVOLghost 12.24.2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
well, possibley...I would be more inclined to believe in other dimensional beings, if aliens exist that way...than that they came here faster than the speed of light from far away.

and i totally believe in parallel universes etc.

anyone watch the show the universe? or ancient aliens?




Yeah...they're cool shows. Well....I've only seen like two episodes of Ancient Aliens....but it's meh.I can't really deal with trying to tie in aliens with some stupid shit....

Lamont Cranston 12.24.2011 05:00 PM

tesla69 would probably be the guy to ask

ann ashtray 12.24.2011 05:02 PM

I do not believe in them, but only because I've never seen one. This isn't to say I don't acknowledge the possibility of life on other planets. I do, but only as a possibilty. I know for some it's hard to believe that we might be all there is, but it is possible. I personally believe we are the result, most likely, of a freak sequence of events. A sequence of events that could happen elsewhere, but isn't likely. Space is in fact very big, and constantly expanding...so next to anything is possible.

Murmer99 12.24.2011 06:59 PM

I was just having this conversation last night on another site. I would somewhat agree with not believing in them, but being conscious of the possibility. Without valid evidence I have no reason to believe. Also, I don't consider perpetual expansion and infinite space to be the same concepts... most tend to disagree when I say that or don't apprehend what I'm trying to say. Anyways, hopefully my alien family abducts me soon and fills me in on how I ended up on such a boring planet such as Earth.

Pelle 12.24.2011 08:15 PM

lol ancient aliens is thee most stupid shit ever,

Count Mecha 12.24.2011 09:10 PM

At a surface thought, UFO's themselves as we know them, that's hard to say. The general lexicon and mythology of UFOdom I'm not that sure about. Greys, aliens at Area 51, all that stuff. Who can say.

Broadening out, in terms of life in the universe in general, I think life existing beyond Earth is a sure thing. Now to what degree of life is up for debate. Bacteria and other microbiology as well as general alien life in the beast sense (alien dogs, bears, monkeys, you get it) sure. Now intelligent life is where one wonders. Hard to say, it would feel odd to immediately discount it. But then why haven't we seen or heard anything out there? How come we're the only intelligent species on the planet? Who knows, maybe we live in one of the least densely populated areas of the universe.

DeadDiscoDildo 12.25.2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelle
lol ancient aliens is thee most stupid shit ever,


Not ever. no.

That said, I can't believe it's on the history channel lol...

but some episodes have brought up things you can't explain...

like ufo's in religious paintings from the fucking 1500s...very weird.

LifeDistortion 12.25.2011 03:37 PM

Let's just say


 

DeadDiscoDildo 12.25.2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
Space is so big, there could be anything out there......if not, why is space so big? The way I see it, discussing intelligence civilizations on other planets is a waste of time. Sort of like debating what the other side of the sun looks like......we simply will never know!



That's like people who said we'll never how how it feels to fly, or get to the moon...or the earth is flat...

never say never.

It could be a very long time...and honestly, if we could get over our social problems we could definitley advance scientifically to the point where we could achieve anything...but I think our social problems will always hinder our science because our science has given us some very dangerous weapons.

We'll kill ourselves before we emancipate ourselves.

Just endless cycles of repeated rebirth...

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.27.2011 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
but I think our social problems will always hinder our science because our science has given us some very dangerous weapons.




Can't you see the wisdom in what you are talking about? Spirituality is an evolutionary trait in humans which is supra-social, transcendental literally, and it is from this perspective that humans have had the wisdom in the past to purposefully spoil technological advances solely because the wisest among us have always understood we are far to dangerous and stupid for ourselves and our own good, and so why better educate and arm such dangerous and inherently stupid things as people without first embedding a sense of morality and mutual empathy? Hence world religions which is mankind's intuitively created fail-safe mechanism, and look at how wildly self-destructive the atheistic despotic regimes of the post-modern era have been ;)

I've seen what could be rightfully called an Unidentified Flying Object on two occasions. One night several years ago a friend and I were out smoking a cigarette in front of his driveway and we noticed what seemed to be a really really high flying plane. It was at night so we saw the light, but it was dead quiet (usually you can hear planes even flying high) and the light just seemed to be way to high up. I've seen "satellites" before, they move differently, this looked like a plane, but again, it just seemed the light was way to high up, and then suddenly it just streaked across the sky lightening fast, and yet still didn't make a sound. I have seen shooting stars (I keep count) and I have even seen some satellites, this was completely different. What I can't ever understand is how something clearly moving so fast didn't make a sound, let alone a sonic boom?

More recently, at my new place I was taking out the trash to the street one night, and looking up I saw what seemed like ordinary planes' lights flying medium altitude in the sky. Then they suddenly started "dancing" and flying in infinity-circle eights until the bottom light suddenly streaked straight up and the top light finished the spiral and followed it. Again, both were completely silent.

I don't believe in aliens, they'd have to live in our solar system otherwise the distance would make them irrelevant, and I'm not really convinced technologically superior beings are flying to earth simply to fuck with stoners at night, if these dudes were real wouldn't they just boss up already? Now to answer the question, who on earth has already bossed up and runs things? Oh right, the government. I think that answers the questions of where these lights might be coming from then, unless folks are persuaded to believe these are manifestations of spiritual beings such as gods or devils. I'm more inclined to believe in visions created by spiritual beings then in extra-terrestrial beings with super-advanced technology ;)

floatingslowly 12.28.2011 07:54 PM

I want to believe.

gast30 12.28.2011 08:12 PM

i know you flowty
you don't want to believe it

you know it the same as seeing the face of maria in a cave
or seeing many faces in a picture of something

the reason for that is that the visuals look for things they can recall to
in the way of it sort of lookes like ...

nothing more then bioconfusion in the brain
visual mistakes are easely made...my friend lol

gast30 12.28.2011 08:15 PM

with these wise words i leave you flowty

ps and damn you for turning your back to the satellite king
how dare you to believe in something
satellite king vs UFO
c'mon man

floatingslowly 12.28.2011 09:30 PM

that was my wife hijacking my phone-a-ma-jig past life babboon communicator.

UFOs are for amateurs. I fold space. 3rd stage stylee.

floatingslowly 12.28.2011 09:33 PM

ps: pareidolia lol

the ikara cult 12.28.2011 09:34 PM

I believe in whatever, and you cant prove that whatever doesnt exist can you? Answer me that a-whateverists

pokkeherrie 12.29.2011 02:59 AM

^I'd have to agree.
Between UFOs and whatever I'd pick the latter.

Keeping It Simple 12.29.2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Can't you see the wisdom in what you are talking about? Spirituality is an evolutionary trait in humans which is supra-social, transcendental literally, and it is from this perspective that humans have had the wisdom in the past to purposefully spoil technological advances solely because the wisest among us have always understood we are far to dangerous and stupid for ourselves and our own good, and so why better educate and arm such dangerous and inherently stupid things as people without first embedding a sense of morality and mutual empathy? Hence world religions which is mankind's intuitively created fail-safe mechanism, and look at how wildly self-destructive the atheistic despotic regimes of the post-modern era have been ;)

I've seen what could be rightfully called an Unidentified Flying Object on two occasions. One night several years ago a friend and I were out smoking a cigarette in front of his driveway and we noticed what seemed to be a really really high flying plane. It was at night so we saw the light, but it was dead quiet (usually you can hear planes even flying high) and the light just seemed to be way to high up. I've seen "satellites" before, they move differently, this looked like a plane, but again, it just seemed the light was way to high up, and then suddenly it just streaked across the sky lightening fast, and yet still didn't make a sound. I have seen shooting stars (I keep count) and I have even seen some satellites, this was completely different. What I can't ever understand is how something clearly moving so fast didn't make a sound, let alone a sonic boom?

More recently, at my new place I was taking out the trash to the street one night, and looking up I saw what seemed like ordinary planes' lights flying medium altitude in the sky. Then they suddenly started "dancing" and flying in infinity-circle eights until the bottom light suddenly streaked straight up and the top light finished the spiral and followed it. Again, both were completely silent.

I don't believe in aliens, they'd have to live in our solar system otherwise the distance would make them irrelevant, and I'm not really convinced technologically superior beings are flying to earth simply to fuck with stoners at night, if these dudes were real wouldn't they just boss up already? Now to answer the question, who on earth has already bossed up and runs things? Oh right, the government. I think that answers the questions of where these lights might be coming from then, unless folks are persuaded to believe these are manifestations of spiritual beings such as gods or devils. I'm more inclined to believe in visions created by spiritual beings then in extra-terrestrial beings with super-advanced technology ;)


If you're under the influence of hard drugs, anything's possible. ;)

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.29.2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
If you're under the influence of hard drugs, anything's possible. ;)


 

ribbon around a bomb 12.29.2011 01:30 PM

I believe that some objects that fly are undentified.


(lol, who am I?)

floatingslowly 12.29.2011 02:32 PM

That's heavy.

dirty bunny 12.29.2011 05:14 PM

I believe in David Duchovny. That's not to say I like him.

DeadDiscoDildo 12.29.2011 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
that was my wife hijacking my phone-a-ma-jig past life babboon communicator.

UFOs are for amateurs. I fold space. 3rd stage stylee.



stargates bugga

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.29.2011 09:53 PM

 

noisereductions 12.29.2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty bunny
I believe in David Duchovny. That's not to say I like him.


he exists. He and Tia have a house not too far from me.

dirty bunny 12.30.2011 03:48 AM

get the heck out. I liked that Tia Leone in Dharma and Greg :)

ann ashtray 12.30.2011 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Can't you see the wisdom in what you are talking about? Spirituality is an evolutionary trait in humans which is supra-social, transcendental literally, and it is from this perspective that humans have had the wisdom in the past to purposefully spoil technological advances solely because the wisest among us have always understood we are far to dangerous and stupid for ourselves and our own good, and so why better educate and arm such dangerous and inherently stupid things as people without first embedding a sense of morality and mutual empathy? Hence world religions which is mankind's intuitively created fail-safe mechanism, and look at how wildly self-destructive the atheistic despotic regimes of the post-modern era have been ;)

I've seen what could be rightfully called an Unidentified Flying Object on two occasions. One night several years ago a friend and I were out smoking a cigarette in front of his driveway and we noticed what seemed to be a really really high flying plane. It was at night so we saw the light, but it was dead quiet (usually you can hear planes even flying high) and the light just seemed to be way to high up. I've seen "satellites" before, they move differently, this looked like a plane, but again, it just seemed the light was way to high up, and then suddenly it just streaked across the sky lightening fast, and yet still didn't make a sound. I have seen shooting stars (I keep count) and I have even seen some satellites, this was completely different. What I can't ever understand is how something clearly moving so fast didn't make a sound, let alone a sonic boom?

More recently, at my new place I was taking out the trash to the street one night, and looking up I saw what seemed like ordinary planes' lights flying medium altitude in the sky. Then they suddenly started "dancing" and flying in infinity-circle eights until the bottom light suddenly streaked straight up and the top light finished the spiral and followed it. Again, both were completely silent.

I don't believe in aliens, they'd have to live in our solar system otherwise the distance would make them irrelevant, and I'm not really convinced technologically superior beings are flying to earth simply to fuck with stoners at night, if these dudes were real wouldn't they just boss up already? Now to answer the question, who on earth has already bossed up and runs things? Oh right, the government. I think that answers the questions of where these lights might be coming from then, unless folks are persuaded to believe these are manifestations of spiritual beings such as gods or devils. I'm more inclined to believe in visions created by spiritual beings then in extra-terrestrial beings with super-advanced technology ;)

Why would spirtual beings feel some need to turn into/create some light source and just prance around the sky from time to time? I think extra terrestrials are more likely, even though I don't believe in them. But then again, I don't believe in spiritual beings either even though I sometimes want to (can't though because there is no evidence/real reason for me to). Atheism is on the rise something serious. The church/organized religion is experiencing rough times that are only going to get worse. In the last few years church goers between the ages of 22 and 30 has dropped some 40 something percent (which yeah, I realize even some religious people think is a good thing, and it is). I think society as a whole is becoming less spiritual and slowly becoming more dependent on science as a means of explanation, all the while accepting the fact that some questions will likely always remain unanswered (extra terrestrial life being a good example, god being a better one). I think religion is worse than the goverment, as it's a powerful tool they've used time and time again in attempt at controlling the masses. Christianity and violence have always (and until it dies, which will happen despite popular belief) will. Of course this violence isn't exclusive to Christianity (I always use it as an example because it is the religion I come into contact with most). Atheist haven't been responsible for much bad (one of few examples given time and time again is Stalin, but for every one atheist or supposed atheist that has brought along trouble ten religious sorts can be name dropped).

Religion just needs to die already. ;)

Pelle 12.30.2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 


IN A NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE....:p

yeah, you know it..

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.30.2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
Why would spirtual beings feel some need to turn into/create some light source and just prance around the sky from time to time? I think extra terrestrials are more likely, even though I don't believe in them. But then again, I don't believe in spiritual beings either even though I sometimes want to (can't though because there is no evidence/real reason for me to). Atheism is on the rise something serious. The church/organized religion is experiencing rough times that are only going to get worse. In the last few years church goers between the ages of 22 and 30 has dropped some 40 something percent (which yeah, I realize even some religious people think is a good thing, and it is). I think society as a whole is becoming less spiritual and slowly becoming more dependent on science as a means of explanation, all the while accepting the fact that some questions will likely always remain unanswered (extra terrestrial life being a good example, god being a better one). I think religion is worse than the goverment, as it's a powerful tool they've used time and time again in attempt at controlling the masses. Christianity and violence have always (and until it dies, which will happen despite popular belief) will. Of course this violence isn't exclusive to Christianity (I always use it as an example because it is the religion I come into contact with most). Atheist haven't been responsible for much bad (one of few examples given time and time again is Stalin, but for every one atheist or supposed atheist that has brought along trouble ten religious sorts can be name dropped).

Religion just needs to die already. ;)


what does organized religion have to do with the potentiality of UFOs being super-spiritual beings rather then technologically advanced extra-terrestrials? I mean, hey, if you want to vent your anti-religious frustrations here please, I'm all ears for the tantrum, however seriously, is it really relevant?

ribbon around a bomb 12.30.2011 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
That's heavy.

Jesus Christ in heaven, floats. Why are you still in this wastebasket of potential?

floatingslowly 12.30.2011 05:20 PM

I tried changing my name like everyone else, but gave up.caring.

I hate Facebook.

Moreso, I hate the internet....

I also have a morbid fascination with entropy.

Kim.Gordon.is.my.waifu.

I hope all of these answers help bring you closure.

Sure is nice to see you again, whoever you are.

ann ashtray 12.30.2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
what does organized religion have to do with the potentiality of UFOs being super-spiritual beings rather then technologically advanced extra-terrestrials? I mean, hey, if you want to vent your anti-religious frustrations here please, I'm all ears for the tantrum, however seriously, is it really relevant?


Very.


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