Website Update
 

Webpage Update:
I added more information on the main page. The picture you see is low quality for loading purposes, so don't mind the little brown lines in the corner, they will be fixed. There is no logo yet, so don't mind the top, there will be when we decide a page name.
The PSD is here

Here's what I need help with:
-I still need people to suggest names for the webpage so I can make a logo.
-Give Opinions on layout update
-Top 10's. Should I have weekly albums? monthly albums? monthly songs? overall top songs? Throw in suggestions!

I should be getting my credit card very soon, so we'll have the site up rather soon. I'll make PDF's for the Reviewers for guidlines and privaleges (you'll get a free email address, and you'll have the privalege to vote for top 10's and artist of the month).

Thanks,
Rob

I think the artist, song, album etc etc should be of the week, that way people will want to come more often to get the update.

names:
forged sound....
puncture notes....
f# stereo....

I don't know. how about band, song, album of the month.

psd? please don't tell me you're using image slices or (worse, much worse!) image maps.

i haven't opened your file but i'd strongly suggest xhtml + ccs
you can use background images to great effect.

check this out: http://csszengarden.com

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yeah yeah, go ahead, change the stylesheet & see for yourself!

Image slices aren't bad if you do it right and have a good host.

that's silly looking.

I TOLD YOU.

image slices are a primitive method

hard to update, terrible for a lot of people who can't see right

& try opening it in your cellphone/pda & see what garbled crap comes out

xhtml + css + DOM = the way to go

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also: google likes xhtml & abhors tables. so do i.

This is just the layout and it's provided purely so people on the board can make revisions that may benifit the appearance of the page. The coding has not been started yet, but I plan to do XHTML + CSS as you said. It reduces file size, so I'm going to have a GIF background with no dither, and the final result ended up being 23seconds/28k modem, which is rather good.

I think the brown boarder needs to be a little smaller.

As for monthly/weekly stuff, I think there should be weekly songs, and artists, and monthly albums.

Or, if I may add my opinion, removed completely.

I wouldn't mind it, if it were a clean cut light/dark brown thing, rather than the ruffly stuff around the edges.

Maybe..
How the page is divided and sectioned off is nice, but it seems to me that it would be even more appealing without a border.
The simplier the better.

This what I was thinking:


Also the font for the titles, reminds me of my mother's scrap books, maybe a simple font would work for that...

I'm working on a logo...

That does look much better.
And simplifying the titles' font sounds like a good idea as well.

Alright thanks, I can't work on it tonight because I saved the file from CS and can't pick it up in 7.0 (which I have at home), because it somehow doesn't support it. Thanks for the help

No problem.

About the logo: Even though I bought more RAM for my computer (I doubled it from 256 MBs to 512 MB), my computer still freezes when I run Photoshop CS (but not at any other time). I don't know what the deal is...

Photoshop's really bad with the ram, I know! I have 512 at home and it's bad with 7.0, and we have 768 at the school and CS is fine. I can get you a 1gb ram stick for $90.00 if you're still looking. I'm going to work on the design more at school sometime, I usually do it during my 3 hour spares. I'm just excited about getting this up and running!

Unless it is PC 133 RAM, I'm afraid I can't take you up on that deal...

top ten monthly albums and singles.

aah okay, no it isn't :(. Thanks for the feedback in regards to the Top 10's everyone!

inhuman- i think, also, stuff like "perfect moments in rock" or whatever where we all take turns writing little bits about parts of songs we think are pefect and etc. would be pretty cool.

weekly albums and singles and we'll keep a monthly score from there, that's what me thinks.

also, a few regular columns wouldn't hurt.

i second this idea.

I have some reviews ready. If you don't want to post your e-mail in here send me one at hayden_asche@hotmail.com.

what about a video section with youtube links or links to official artist pages with good videos to watch?i know a column like that could go on forever,but if you select the links wisely (quality/rariry over quantity)it can give satisfactions.

Yeah. I find Verdana or Helvetica the best fonts, for websites.

Everything should be monthly, because people are slow.

I was thinking of that myself as well. Later on what I was planning to do is get actual copyrights for videos, and that way we can stream videos, but nobody's going to give rights unless the site gets a little bit more popular. But for sure, I'll add a videos section and hope for the best!

The perfect moments in rock idea is also an attention grabber, but keep in mind we're not only doing rock music :p. I'm pretty much up to any additions to the website, as long as there's people to run them! We all have to participate together and have tight deadlines, and it's going to be hard since I'm in college full time and don't have too much time to code it.

In regards to the tops, I think I'm aiming towards what everyneurotic said. As long as we all vote, we shouldn't have too much hassle. The domain I'm buying contains 2500 email addresses, so you'll each get your own, and what I was thinking is having a form so users can submit their favorite top songs and albums as well, and send it to top10@oursitename.com.

Thanks to the people giving name reccomendations, we should get some more and then throw a poll deciding on which one suits the page the most.

Thanks,
Rob

of course, it would best moments in music, not just rocks.

we could also post impromptu top ten list by each of us contributors, besides the general one.

hey, there's an idea! Sounds good! I'll make a page for it. I'm finalizing the layout tonight, and starting to script it. If anyone's willing to help me script, just give me a holla!

call it www.dont.com ha ha..
whoops,nevermind,taken already.

been meaning to write some shit, mostly noise stuffs with a little grind/metal in there.

the new yellow swans, i have to write about it. its soo fucking great, i MUST express my love to SOMEONE.

Psychic? Or is there another new one. Yellow Swans are noise-gods.

global clone, psychic is old news... ACUALLY i take that back, LP reissue of psychic sooooon. CANT WAIT.

PWN. I have the original pressing of Psychic.

Is Global Clone readily available or is it super-limited edition shit?

nope, edition of 1000
available from the label at http://www.iheartnoise.com/

or available from me at http://www.spacelessjam.com/

its acually a compilation of some of their super limited tapes, i only have one of the 5 that are on it so its still mostly new to me. pretty bitchin though.


i started writing my review earlier but i am not quite done, i have a feeling this one is gonna be on the longer side.

Ima get one from your bitch-ass then probably.

I have a few of their tapes.

cool man

& death to <font> tags!!

if you need some help with the stylesheets or checking your code let me know via pm. i can't put a whole lot of time into this but i'd be happy to give you a hand every now & then.

alright thanks! Especially since I'm new to stylesheets since I learned HTML before the fancy XHTML+CSS came in. I just started learning CSS yesterday in class, so I'll PM you the username and password when I post the BETA version of the site on angelfire so people can try it, then switch it to a real site as soon as I get my credit card. That way you can review the content on it. Thanks very much!

Now, we really need a name. We have a few suggestions on the first page I believe, so take a look at those and see what you think.
I was thinking of something like "Avante-Cure".

web monkey used to have a nice CSS tutorial where i learned a few years back. but that should be obsolete now.

if you got the time or the inclination check out zeldman's "designing with web standards" which gives you a very nice foundation & background to understand the when how & why of xhtml/css/dom. brilliant book, funny to read, though a bit pricey (almost $50). there are other books in the new riders imprint. fuck, i just saw amazon is selling it for $27.

or go to his website:
http://www.zeldman.com/
and this one:
http://alistapart.com

basically you want to separate structural markup from syles as much as possible.

so in your content page you simply use tags like div, p, h1, h2, etc.
everything else (font size, color, background color & images, etc. goes into the stylesheets)

you can create very nice layouts using floats-- no need for tables!

oh here is another book i like which helps when you wan to create fluid layouts:

http://www.simplebits.com/publications/bulletproof/

my suggestion would be this: instead of cleaning up messy code (and you could use this website as an opportunity to improve your css kung-fu), write up a very basic structural code where you lay out all the sections you want to feature.

once you get your content, then start creating stylesheets & apply background images & such.

that's the whole philosophy of the css zen garden. disable styles in your browser and see how plain the structural markup is. all the design you see is added with styles. http://csszengarden.com -- go check it out it's quite amazing the infinite designs they come up with, all using the same structural markup. it will blow your mind.

so this:
http://csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/189/189.css&page=0
and this:
http://csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/188/188.css&page=0
and this:
http://csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/193/193.css&page=0
and this:
http://csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/182/182.css&page=1

are *the same content* but with different styles!

go ahead & disable stylesheets in every page. fucking amazing. same html, just different styles.

which makes it very easy, you see, to update the content, without worrying about fucking font tags!

(i actually own the css zen garden book. it's a beauty).

oh and don't worry about giving me server access, i can look at your source code straight from the browser.

an extra dare: make it xhtml1.1 strict & try validating it @ the w3c site. oh yes, the joy...