SY songs that fade
 

here's a challenge for y'all---name some SY tracks that fade out. not songs w/ some extraneous noise @ the end that fades, but ones that have no conclusive finish due to a fade. no demos or live tracks.

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Good one! Yeah, I can think of a few that fade with the noise but I can't think of any at the moment that fade, like, on a repeated chorus or something. *thinks* RAIN KING, does that count?

I've never liked when songs fade out. It's just like "think of an ending! Just hit a crash cymbal! How you guys gonna play this live?" Of course, I've seen bands live where the sound mixer actually turns em down and so they fade out live. So weird.

Not really a fade but my favorite ending is probably on CROSS THE BREEZE.. how it plays the beginning, it sounds amazing.. and there's that delayed thing going on in the background.. amazing.

GENETIC

oh, and The Sprawl

and In The Kingdom #19

"Kotton Krown"

"Mary Christ"

"Sunday"...okay, I'm done.

on that note, think of a song w/ a repeated chorus @ the end! (to be honest i didn't spend much time trying to think of one, but it seems like something that they probably wouldn't do, even on their more verse/chorus material...)

i'm pretty sure i disagree with all the suggestions (based on my criteria) except possibly 'genetic'. i'll listen to em and check. then probably come back and say i was wrong.

okay, i can't argue that those songs don't all indeed have fades, though i'm not sure they fit my strict criteria ("kingdom" and "genetic" fading on a solitary drum beat? come on... "mary christ" finishes, the fade is part of the "kool thing" preprise! come on..."sunday", i forgot to listen to! come on...)

maybe i should have added "while the whole band is still playing" rather than one member winding down ("kingdom", "genetic", "kotton krown").

let's hear more!

doesn't IN THE KINGDOM # 19 fade out? I can't remember right now, it's been YEARS since i listened to it... the music fades out, while the members are talking..

expressway to yr. skull? does that one fade out?

Damnit, I thought I at least had one.

I KNOW THERE'S AN ANSWER

i think i got it. right? did i get it? im pretty sure i got it. thats the right answer right? im pretty sure im right. yes, im right

"sweet shine" and "pattern recognition"

a fade is a way of ending a song by lowering the volume without willing to end the song. sunday, expressway, in the kingdom #19, even the sprawl just have their own ending and I don't feel them like a fade. mary-christ, kotton krown and genetic have ends that brake up to the stop.

as for "I know there's an answer" I forgot this song since a long time. I know only one other song that is as shitty as that. it's a song by our very popular french band: Indochine - "le dernier jour".

shitty? you are wrong, my french friend. it is good

yeh, it fades on steve's drumbeat, but the song itself is built from improvisational sections so i'd argue that it has no clear 'finish' by design anyway... :D

if you can identify the final note of the song, i would argue it doesn't fade. this goes for both 'sweet shine' and 'pattern recognition'.

mary christ takes the cake.

i wonder if i started this thread just to argue.

"MARY-CHRIST" the track, does indeed fade.
"MARY-CHRIST" the song, has a relatively proper ending and begins to (theoretically) segue into "Kool Thing". then, the segue fades before the proper 'Kool Thing' track starts. of course, the live and demo versions all do complete the segue without a fade.

splitting hairs? sure i am! here comes another one...

"I Know There's an Answer" doesn't count because it's a cover and they're emulating the fade on the original track. :p

Hm, Contre Le Sexisme. Arguably any track on Bad Moon Rising, but that's less of a fade and more of a segue.

i think 'sexisme' ends w/ kim's voice? and yes, those are more like segues, in that they are. ;)

even if the end of mary-christ is technically a fade, the fact that it is the beginning of another song is strongly in opposition with the spirit of the fade imo.

all of Silver Session tracks fade in and out i think (pretty sure...)

Does Ciccone Youth count? If so, the Madonna cover - "Burnin' Up" -(Mike Watt) fades out I think.

It seems like there are songs on dirty and experimental that fade, but I don't listen to those albums very often, haha... but yeah I thought ANDRODGYNOUS MIND faded for some reason.

the transition b/w Mary Christ and Kool Thing on the Goo LP always seemed awkward to me, why do it that way at all? Would have been better to segue w/ continuous sound throughout. Probably did it cuz Kool Thing was the big single at the time. I don't listen to Goo that much these days. I forget whether the demo versions have a fade or segue there, or if those tracks are even adjacent. Fade outs do seem awkward, but I really like creative use of the fade: like Helter Skelter fading in and out b/w different sections of the jam, and I think I am the Walrus does that too. Beatles never had to play those live though. Hypothetically, playing a song w/ a fadeout live makes the band come up with something their fans havn't heard yet, which is always exciting if done well.

the transition from Mary to kool Thing was probably done because it was found on some obscure record.

the transition is loaded with comedy and is just a technical trick . Just like the endless loops on some records.

In the EVOL-vinyl expressway ended into locked groove. So I think you can´t count that because then Vinyl was the first release.

On the original Goo Demos release, Mary-Christ (aka "Animals") segues into Kool Thing (aka "DV2") and fades out, like the final album. On the remixed deluxe reissue, there's a segue (which they also reproduced live throughout 1990).

If the only qualifying candidate turns out to be the only song on all of the SY releases to not contain a single member of SY, let that prove my point, if I had one. Wait, does "Voice Piece for Soprano" fade??

I can´t listen it because I´m not home but according to my memory it doesn´t fade. If you mean that "Coco`s piece".

yeah i think Silver Sessions fades too

Yeh, the only other, other song on an SY release that doesn't contain a member of the band. :D (I'm not as sure about this as I was about the fades, but I can't think of any other examples off the top of my head..)