Why aren't SYR6 + 8 released on vinyl?
 

Sorry if there is already a thread, but does anyone know why?

:rolleyes:

never mind that i want 7 on cd

just becuz.

because its 1985 and you hipster divs need to get with the times

I suspect they didn't release SYR 8 on vinyl cuz they didn't want to cut up the 1-hour set.

I guess so...but that could have been a solution :p
I'd like to have em in my vinylcollection. So irritating that those parts are missing.

aaaaagh!!??!?!?!?!??!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wouldn't likely be profitable to release everything on vinyl. Most people still buy cds, despite popular belief.

samesies. :(

They are doing it just to fuck with your head. To make their discography so indecipherable that your peanut brain cannot comprehend it.

They make it so complex until your brain cannot take it anymore and you say 'fuck it, this is pointless (which is you should have said back before you started collecting)

No really thats the truth.

That came across harsh but the real reason is to create mystique

In the seventies (a lot before cd-time) if there is larger entities than vinyl-side, they just fade it and then bring it out to the another side (for example Canned Heat in Refried Boogie, Amon Duul II in Yeti and Yeti talks to Yogi, Jethro Tull in Thick as a Brick and a Passion play, allthough this last the song just stop and continue on b-side). Nick Cave also made in "Dig Lazarus Dig"-album, that "More News for Nowhere" is on the vinyl-bonus-single and it fades on the middle of the song and the rest of the song is on b-side!).

I´m also glad if there comes someday vinyl-version for those syr´s. Sometimes it has happened: Opeth damnation original release was just cd, but a few years ago to my happiness came a vinyl version. There is also Sonic Death that is only in cassette and cd, but maybe it will never be released in vinyl. But who knows?

Both 6 and 8 would have to be double-vinyl and since they're already basically each a single piece, spreading it over four sides seems illogical. As for 7 not being on CD, huh.

It is possible to put 30 minutes on one vinyl side. Syr6 has 3 pieces and the longest is little less than half an hour, so it can be one and half vinyl (there are some in history allready for example Johnny Winter:Second Winter). Syr 8 lenght is little less than one hour so it is possible to put in one vinyl. Of course sound quality is not as good when vinyls are so long, but it don´t bother me for example in Syr4.

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Well well, ofcourse people listen to CDs, but if just "irritated" me a little bit that all the SYR records are released on CD and vinyl except vinyl releases of two of them, wich btw is my favourites.. :P

SYR7 not on CD bugs me the most. It just makes no sense. They even released a digital version. So...

Yeah, same thing there. All of them sohuld be on all formats.
Even tapeversions would be cool. ;)

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well the fact is, there is at least an explanation for the non vinyl release of syr6&8 - though i know it's a pain to have those two gaps in your collection -, since they're meant to be listened to as one track, etc, while there is absolutely no reason why syr7 should not be released as a cd. it really bugged me when it got released - and still does, especially since i was really eager to own j'accuse ted hughes on cd. eh.

I haven't really thought about that SYR7 is not on CD...damn thats almost even as irritating.

We need to spank thurston, lee, kim and steve !

maybe they just forgot in their old age?

Haha, yeah they don't know what theyre doing anymore ;)

Nah ,but I guess that they wanted to mess with people OR that they didnt want to split the track or something ; o

SYR7 not on CD bugs me the most. It just makes no sense. They even released a digital version. So...

If the artist has left the listener in a perplexed state of mind, then the goal is achieved.

BTW, why so hung up on the medium? Should't we all be more concerned with the art?

if i recall, 7 and 8 were released about 3 months apart? i recall thinking the format-specific nature of each release was intended to balance the other (in other words, when it was clear 8 would not have a vinyl release, they opted to make 7 vinyl only). i have no idea if that was actually the reasoning, and since 6 was CD only a few years earlier i'm guessing my theory holds no water... (note that 7 is also the only 2-track SYR, so it seems perfectly designed for vinyl - i imagine they started w/ the idea of "J'Accuse Ted Hughes" on the A side and then sought out a complimentary b-side, but again, i have no idea..)

i remember getting both of these in a package the last time i moved - i spent a day driving my shit back and forth from house to house on a hot summer day that was particularly tourist-heavy, listening to SYR8 on repeat. it almost kept me sane.

beacause i dont have decks i can't listen to syr7

i could download it of course, but i'm anal and like having a cd

hello.

how do you know that the goal was to perplex?

I am MORE concerned with the art. But I am also concerned with the medium. Mainly because I've bought every SY release on CD that was available since like 1999... also, I never listen to vinyl. I just don't have a convenient setup to do so.

I really have a hunch with my theory. Don't know why, just do. Some people like to create mystique. The same reason some types throw an media interview, just because. The world is sooo logical, artists by their place need to be the vehicles for mystery and irrationality.

When music collectors, and we have all seen them, just become obsessed with collecting and not the material, it is time for the artist to change their plan of attack.

Harbingers of irrational thought I'll tell ya. Isn't to be irrational the entire purpose of art?

'sup

that's some impressive mystique.

Maybe SYR7 only in vinyl is kind of "manifesto for vinyls". I have always thought SY members are also vinyl freaks. If I remember correct, geffen refused to release Sonic albums in vinyl after NYC ghosts, so Thurston put his own Goofin´label to release them in vinyl. And I think it´s one reason why they left geffen (not the only one).

It has been irritadet me a bit because nowdays people automatically think, the official release is always on cd. To me it´s still vinyl versions that I think it´s the "official" versions. Of course I have also cd:s, but if some album doesn´t come in vinyl, I very often don´t buy it immeaditely, I buy it maybe later and then it´s often also cheaper.

I think this nowdays "technical ecstasy" has gone too far. There was only one format about thirty years, cassette came in the seventies. Now in about twenty years has come cd, dvd, Mp3, Blue Ray. Of course it´s also good thing that technic goes forward, but nowdays I think it´s very big part of market economy and this things are made just big companies to make more money. And I think it´s no good because there´s also nature and people of the develop countries suffering. So I don´t have every modern equipments, I have no dvd-player or even television and microwave nomdays.

Of course the format is in the end quite the same. I truly thinks in vinyl is better sounding, but if there is not coming vinyl versions from SYR6 and SYR8, my world doesn´t turn around.