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greenlight 07.28.2006 06:23 PM

Thurston's guitar.
 
i know there is a list of sy guitars somewhere, which have been stolen. i'm not musician, so i do not really know brands of guitars when i see some. i was just watching easter gig and saw that guitar Thurston used to play on around wm era. how do you call them guitars. jazzmaster, is it? here's a picture....

 


but do you remember thurston guitar? it was same brand, but kind of white color with dr. pepper sticker on it. was that guitar stolen as well?

golden child 07.28.2006 06:29 PM

wasnt stolen i dont think, fender is the brand and jazzmaster is the model.

scott v 07.28.2006 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden child
wasnt stolen i dont think, fender is the brand and jazzmaster is the model.


it was stolen, it was the cream colored jazzmaster w/ the red tortoise shell pickguard... almost all of thurston's guitars that he uses live now are different than the ones he used back in the mid to late 90's.

golden child 07.28.2006 06:40 PM

oh, well he has another red one then...

greenlight 07.28.2006 06:46 PM

fuck, such a cool (looking) guitar, the one with dr. pepper on it.
pitty he can't make a music on that one now....well he has others, but this one, hmmm.

greenlight 07.28.2006 06:50 PM

any pic with dr. pepper one? i think i've no pic with this guitar in my archive.

holy-reverb!! 07.28.2006 08:17 PM

 

Cantankerous 07.28.2006 08:18 PM

stolen gear

holy-reverb!! 07.28.2006 08:22 PM

those fender amps are a real shame.

Cantankerous 07.28.2006 08:23 PM

Fender amps aren't exactly irreplaceable.

holy-reverb!! 07.28.2006 08:44 PM

yea i know. I own a few. some rare and some common. but even if you loose the common ones you still miss it. and no amp is the same after you have it for a while.

Cantankerous 07.28.2006 08:45 PM

It's not like they didn't mass produce them.

holy-reverb!! 07.28.2006 08:46 PM

and loosing a black face concert that lee customized is not replaceable. you dont find those in every vintage guitar store.

ZEROpumpkins 07.28.2006 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden child
wasnt stolen i dont think, fender is the brand and jazzmaster is the model.

Didn't Kurt Cobain invent the Jazzmaster? Or was that the Jagstang.

Cantankerous 07.28.2006 10:41 PM

Jag-Stang.

soniknirve 07.28.2006 11:47 PM

 


poor thing. they fucking mutilated it...

m^a(t)h 07.29.2006 01:46 AM

[quote=ZEROpumpkins]Didn't Kurt Cobain invent the Jazzmaster?[quote]


thankyou

Chris Lawrence 07.29.2006 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
i know there is a list of sy guitars somewhere, which have been stolen. i'm not musician, so i do not really know brands of guitars when i see some. i was just watching easter gig and saw that guitar Thurston used to play on around wm era. how do you call them guitars. jazzmaster, is it? here's a picture....



 


but do you remember thurston guitar? it was same brand, but kind of white color with dr. pepper sticker on it. was that guitar stolen as well?


here's the white one:

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/eq/gtr40.html

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/eq/ = fun + soon much more fun (want to update, out of my control!)

greenlight 07.29.2006 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence


o yeah that's the one


 

wow, i wasnt aware he used it since 1991 allready. hmm, nobody find it yet, no? such a pitty it was stolen (well, but we wouldn't have NYC+ghost then...).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence
http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/eq/ = fun + soon much more fun (want to update, out of my control!)

such a huge archive you made, fairplay! i just don't know how you could have find all this info. respect.



if we are talking about stolen gear, what about first gig or two after thieft. sy played with borrowed instruments. any word how it sounded like? maybe somebody recorded it (haven't seen anything on dime tho)?

Danny Himself 07.29.2006 09:00 AM

I have set about fucking up my red jazz. I will award it to Thurston when it is destroyed enough.

lunberg 07.29.2006 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by soniknirve
 


poor thing. they fucking mutilated it...


That's makes me sad:( . Just becuz of the fucker who smashed the guitar, we'll never hear Saucerlike, Washing machine or Unwind again.

No more ATL songs live either (except for Sunday).

fluxequalsrad 07.29.2006 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunberg
That's makes me sad:( . Just becuz of the fucker who smashed the guitar, we'll never hear Saucerlike, Washing machine or Unwind again.

No more ATL songs live either (except for Sunday).


The only reason we won't hear any Washing Machine era songs is because they forget how to play them. Same goes for ATL.

Junkies promise had that mini guitar that lee played....its like red.....maybe we'll never ever hear THAT song again.

I have a sneaky suspicion that if they learn any Washing Machine songs again it will be either 'Saucer-Like' or 'Diamond Sea'

Danny Himself 07.29.2006 12:51 PM

They can still play all of the ATL tunes. The gear was stolen DURING the ATL tour. They're just sick of that stuff.

Skip Tracer was played at some festival in Brazil last year, too.

lunberg 07.29.2006 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad
The only reason we won't hear any Washing Machine era songs is because they forget how to play them. Same goes for ATL.

Junkies promise had that mini guitar that lee played....its like red.....maybe we'll never ever hear THAT song again.

I have a sneaky suspicion that if they learn any Washing Machine songs again it will be either 'Saucer-Like' or 'Diamond Sea'


Even if they did forget them how to play them, they still have the tunings written down along with the finger position and they have the record to refresh their memory. It's not like they need a score or something.

I seriously think the gear they used back then is vital to play those songs.

greenlight 07.29.2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by soniknirve
 




actually, how sy knew, that's the original lee's guitar, because there must be a lot guitars like that around...?

scott v 07.29.2006 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlight
actually, how sy knew, that's the original lee's guitar, because there must be a lot guitars like that around...?


travis beans are not common not too many of them around, also if you look there are two cracks on the body around where the neck meets, you see it in both photos, they are in the identical spot... thats how you know that those two pictures are the same guitar. pretty impossible to have another guitar w/ the exact blemishes like that.

its looks like from the photo on the left whoever had the guitar obviously tried to refinish it to hide the fact that it was a stolen guitar, but they must've realized that they totally fucked it and couldn't do anymore to save the original hack job that was done (it looks so bad like it was dipped in an acid bath)

i wonder if these people steal cars and try to refinish them like they do instruments?

fluxequalsrad 07.29.2006 02:35 PM

Sonic Youth does have trouble relearning all of their songs! Thurston said in some interview I read before the murray street tour saying they were trying to learn how to figure out 'The Sprawl' but relearning all of those songs is hard.

fluxequalsrad 07.29.2006 02:40 PM

http://www.nudeasthenews.com/interviews/11

There we are... thats the one.

(read about 3/4 of the way down...I don't know how to paste text in this message board thing)

fluxequalsrad 07.29.2006 02:40 PM

NATN: How much do the band’s shows vary from night to night? Or, how many songs are you rehearsed on? Do you guys ever have the urge to play a random track off of, say, Washing Machine?

TM:[Laughs] We have the urge, but the ability is another question, because a lot of it has to do with, what the hell tuning was I playing in? And it’s like, if you don’t have that notated and you can pull it out of your notebook -- and I have no notebook. I don’t have this stuff written down anywhere. It takes so much detective work for me to get back into a song, even from then. It becomes really problematic.
NATN: Can I make a request for “Saucer-Like”?

TM:“Saucer-Like?” That’s on the list! I’ll throw it in the hat.

kingcoffee 07.30.2006 07:36 PM

Fender Jazzmaster's are great guitars. I get so tired of people who knock them.

Bal 07.31.2006 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
They can still play all of the ATL tunes. The gear was stolen DURING the ATL tour. They're just sick of that stuff.

Skip Tracer was played at some festival in Brazil last year, too.


i might be wrong here but
hadnt their equipment been stolen just before atl was recorded?

Cantankerous 07.31.2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bal
i might be wrong here but
hadnt their equipment been stolen just before atl was recorded?

ATL was released in 1998 and the gear was stolen July 4 1999.

finding nobody 07.31.2006 10:02 AM

NYC Ghosts and Flowers was the first to be recorded with new gear

gmku 07.31.2006 10:30 AM

Thing I like about Thurston and his guitar choices, he's not like Eric Clapton and those classic rock jerks who will only play guitars that cost the equivalent of a loaded Jaguar sports coupe. Thurston goes for cheap and funky.

Cantankerous 07.31.2006 10:31 AM

jazzmasters and jaguars are nowhere near cheap.

gmku 07.31.2006 10:33 AM

I didn't think Jazzmasters were all that much. More than a thousand, certainly. But Clapton plays acoustic guitars that cost as much as a car. I think that's just conspicuous.

Cantankerous 07.31.2006 10:35 AM

eric clapton is a jackass anyway. i really don't care how much his guitar costs.

jazzmasters are more than i'm willing to pay. at least $1000 for a new one.

gmku 07.31.2006 10:37 AM

Yeah, that's true. Fuck Clapton and the horse he rode in on!

Cantankerous 07.31.2006 10:38 AM

the list price for a new jazzmaster is $1999.99-$2049.99
the vintage ones are $500-$600 on the cheap end on ebay, and that is in shitty condition

Lipslikewindows 07.31.2006 11:02 AM

They're a lot more expensive than they used to be. In the early 80s no one was playing them and they were extremely cheap. Fucking Cobain.


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