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scaat 07.11.2006 02:46 PM

7-10-06 @ the forum
 
WHAT THE FUNK happened to Sonic Youth at the forum last night? Did Eddie eat them? That was the ONLY reason I bought $60 tickets to shitty pearl Jum :fuckyou: was to see Sonic.... and they didn't play? I was there at 7 and waited 2 hours with nothing but stupid fucking PJ fans being idiots at the WORST venue EVER... the Forum

What happened?!?!?!?!?! reparations!!!

Theres always tonight on Jimmy Kimmel..... BOOOOOO!!!!!

One very diappointed fan,
Scaat

Gookid 07.11.2006 02:52 PM

WHAT?!?!?!
Wow, that's horrible news.
I wonder if Thurston's cold made him really sick.

mikec 07.11.2006 03:13 PM

wow. that does really suck. sorry that had to happen.

krastian 07.11.2006 03:18 PM

Yeah I missed them when they opened for PJ in 2000 in DC when Kim and Thurston had to leave on an emergency.....of course I was there to see PJ just as much as SY because I hadn't seen them before and I have always loved them. You should have heard all the idiots clapping when it was announced that SY wouldn't be playing.....I was like "Nooooo!" Anyway, that sucks man.

Booger 07.11.2006 03:42 PM

Sonic Youth opened with Schizophrenia exactly at 7:30.

Unfortunatley I was still going thru security at that time and could just hear the loud drumming.

One of my all time favorite songs ever...of any band.

They played exactly 45 mins and clocked out at 8:15.

I was bummed but knew what to expect as seeing the short set list from previous PJ- coupled shows.

It was kinda weird to see such a legendary band playing to a stadium of only about 20% full as all the PJ fans were tailgating.

Sonic Youth was good and tight- much differnet than the last time I saw them in San Diego with Mudhoney 15 years ago on their "Year that Punk Broke" Tour...or whatever it was officilally called back then.

Biggest contrast between Sonic Youth and Pearl Jam was the fact that Sonic Youth totally relied on their music to impress vs Pearl Jam that relied on 80'guitar-guy-Mike McCready running around looking like a fool, Eddie playing his guitar over his head, etc.

But....A band as dynamic and great as Pearl Jam can pull it off as they can go deep down multiple avenues.

Having said that, Pearl Jam put on a good show, even though they are as trendy and mainstream as a band can get- thus attract masses of peeps that dont even care about the music but attend for other reasons, for better or worse.

Highlight of the night was seeing a blind kid living it up and having his buddies lead him around.

And Yeah, The Forum sucks.......there is no easy way to get there as the infrastructure to get to the place is in a "less fortunate" part of town thus no attention to improve from tax money.....and the inside of the Forum is old, cramped corridors, GIGANTIC on the floor though thus few good seats..

The parking lot is gnarly as there are few exits and the parking spaces havent been changed in 30 years thus they were created eons before the modern, larger cars took over Southern California.

Luckily I left 20 mins before Peal Jam quit.

Sonic Youth deserved way better than what they got.

mikec 07.11.2006 04:58 PM

well that was confusing.

scott v 07.11.2006 06:30 PM

yeah so did they play or not?

Booger 07.11.2006 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scott v
yeah so did they play or not?


yes.

kingcoffee 07.11.2006 09:09 PM

So what, did Scaat just not pay attention? Cuz he says he was there at 7 pm and Booger (hehehe, Revenge of the Nerds) says they started at 7:30. Someone either has their info screwed up or someone wasn't paying attention. Strange...

Alex's Trip 07.11.2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kingcoffee
So what, did Scaat just not pay attention? Cuz he says he was there at 7 pm and Booger (hehehe, Revenge of the Nerds) says they started at 7:30. Someone either has their info screwed up or someone wasn't paying attention. Strange...

How can you like...not pay attention and miss a whole concert?

Gookid 07.11.2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
How can you like...not pay attention and miss a whole concert?

He probably was just in the parking lot?

Daycare Nation 07.11.2006 09:49 PM

Haha. Best thread ever.

matt reeder 07.11.2006 11:21 PM

As much as I love Pearl Jam, a lot of their fans suck. Feel free to give them a huge bag of shit every time they rip on Sonic Youth.

Booger 07.12.2006 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
How can you like...not pay attention and miss a whole concert?


Or the original poster is a troll:)

Im not making anything up.

more details....

It was virtually pitch black once inside so the colored lights on stage were sweet.

Off the top of my head they played...

Schizophrenia
Turqoise Boy (not my favorite so I went to the bathroom during it)
Jams Run Free
Rats
Incinerate
Reena

and one other I couldnt recognize.

As you know, Mark Ibold was playing base and Kim would play base for half the songs and most of the time they were playing the same base line so it was fairly pronounced.

And as I stated earlier, it was weird to see them play with basically no audience- I must be getting old as I still see these guys/girl as legendary creative/punk rock/ masters of atmosphere and mood rock icons so I was shocked to see so few people inside and so many pearl jam fans more interested in drinking in a fucking parking lot.

The band didnt really talk to the audience besides Thurston before their last song just mentioning the names of all the band members.

acousticrock87 07.12.2006 12:29 AM

At the Filter show he introduced himself as Steve Jones or something. Does he always do that?

Gookid 07.12.2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
At the Filter show he introduced himself as Steve Jones or something. Does he always do that?

umm..no

Daddylikes 07.12.2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
At the Filter show he introduced himself as Steve Jones or something. Does he always do that?


Thurston has a habit of frequently mis-introducing the band or their songs in his stage banter. (Of course, he was more fond of doing it in the 80's-->early 90's than he has been of late)

Of course you realize that Steve Jones was in the Sex Pistols.

acousticrock87 07.12.2006 12:37 AM

I know, I couldn't remember if that's who he said, though. I just didn't know if he did that all the time.

soniknirve 07.12.2006 12:40 AM

scat was prob hanging w/such friends before the show and was too baked to realize sy was even playing. fuck the shitstem. jah bless and all that good shit...

swimsuitissue 07.12.2006 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booger
Sonic Youth opened with Schizophrenia exactly at 7:30. Sonic Youth deserved way better than what they got.

Exactly! They went on stage right at 7:30 PM and played for approximately 45 minutes! It was great listening to the new songs!

against_the_grain 07.12.2006 09:59 AM

So many rock shows DO run late, at least they used to. But I'd always get to the venue, mill about but get in just as soon as they opened the gates. I've always been and 'ontime' sorta fella....and it shocks me when I see people coming into the concert place...surprised the band is playing when their ticket clearly says 8PM showtime and it's 8:25 and these golly laggers are thinking the band was suppposed to wait for them !!! ?

Hey, if the ticket says 7:30...I'm in there by 7:15 or before !

People don't place enough emphasis on time, it's rude to be late and those that are just have to suffer. Seems this is what happened to the original poster.

He missed it.

matt reeder 07.12.2006 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sn@ke
Check Dime...

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I don't know why Sonic Youth is opening for pj, really...THEY should be opening for SY.

fuck pj.


They would if it were logistically possible. Pearl Jam gives props to their elders, and if it weren't a question of mainstream popularity, Sonic Youth would be headlining this tour.

However, I expect to see a bunch of SY tags in different Pearl Jam songs as this tour continues. Ed is fond of tagging "Androgynous Mind" onto the end of "Daughter", for instance.

What did you expect?

scaat 07.12.2006 05:11 PM

holy crap... they must have not gotten much of the sound system because I heard nothing when trying to enter the building. I was there at 7:15, hit will call and got to the security screener line about 7:45... took about another 30 mins to get through that line and into the building so yeah, I guess I just missed em.

I was not baked and I'm not a troll, by the way... my main goal was getting there in time, guess i shoulda been there at 6...

In all fairness...*sigh* PJ wasn't too bad live. As bad as the sound was and much as I can't stand 90% of the fans... their drummer is tite. thats the only props I can give them and still sleep at night.

TFR 07.12.2006 09:07 PM

I am a PJ fan and I have PJ to thank for my love of SY. I have been to 20 PJ shows I am very sorry to say this is typical of most PJ fans. The attention they give to the opening band is very poor. I can proudly say I have never missed a minute of any PJ opener and am now a fan of quite few of their openers over the years.

I really hate to hear the reaction ito SY because I would love to see the 2 greatest bands play on the same stage (haven't seen them together since 2000). But like I said, it is my experience that most people would rather stand outside and drink. Ungrateful bastards.

krastian 07.12.2006 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TFR
I am a PJ fan and I have PJ to thank for my love of SY. I have been to 20 PJ shows I am very sorry to say this is typical of most PJ fans. The attention they give to the opening band is very poor. I can proudly say I have never missed a minute of any PJ opener and am now a fan of quite few of their openers over the years.

I really hate to hear the reaction ito SY because I would love to see the 2 greatest bands play on the same stage (haven't seen them together since 2000). But like I said, it is my experience that most people would rather stand outside and drink. Ungrateful bastards.

Hell yeah man....I've only managed to go to 2. Were you at Merriweather in 2000? What a show! I still love them and the new album rocks me baby!

mushmanski57@hotmail.com 07.12.2006 10:39 PM

I saw PJ on September 13, 2005 in Hamilton on their Canadian tour, it was amazing. I wasn't really into their opening band though (it was Sleater-Kinney). Can't wait til next month when I see SY at the Kool Haus in Toronto!

greenlight 07.13.2006 06:26 AM

60 $ for 5 songs? enough indeed. but you see pj as well, hehe

TFR 07.13.2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegmama
Some of you paid like $60 to see them play 5 songs in a shitty environment, with a sell out grunge band, as openers, and for the record- SY is NOT an opening act! And they ended up playing 9 songs on Kimmel for free.


Sell-out "grunge" band? You couldn't be more wrong.

PJ absolutely HATES that label (as do I). PJ, as far as attitude, is one of the most punk bands around. They are right up there with SY. Playing larger venues is the only way to not alienate their true fans, something they would never do (see ticketmaster dispute, 1994, as well as the 1995 tour).

Please educate yourself before you go spouting off nonsense.

acousticrock87 07.13.2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFR
Sell-out "grunge" band? You couldn't be more wrong.

I personally think "Electronica Gangsta Rap" would be way more wrong. But this genre stuff is all relative, so I could be off.

huoxito 07.14.2006 11:32 AM

I totally agree with TCR. Pearl Jam was never a sell- out grunge band...
Since ten they have always showed their worry about making sicere music. They never gave a fuck to mtv and all the mainstream stuff. have you ever stopped to count how many videos they have on mtv?

Their album are all work of art since vitalogy.

matt reeder 07.14.2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegmama
Some of you paid like $60 to see them play 5 songs in a shitty environment, with a sell out grunge band, as openers, and for the record- SY is NOT an opening act! And they ended up playing 9 songs on Kimmel for free.


Come on...a "sell-out grunge band"? Grunge is nothing but a label (and one Pearl Jam doesn't really fit all that well), and "sell-out", well...name another band that charges 2/3 to 1/2 what they could charge, gets some of the best bands in the world to open for them, and then routinely plays for 150 minutes, mixing up setlists every night.


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