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PAULYBEE2656 06.16.2006 04:04 AM

i am thoroughly fed up with this place at the moment
 
bad attitudes, bad feelings, bad misinformed opinions. oneupmanship. children crying over shit being said, bitching, even back stabbing, people giong out of their way to prove someone wrong, ego boosting, popularity contests, namecalling, giving out cuz people are having fun.

yeah i know im perpetuating to this scene of crap threads but really i am fed up with this place and the fucking snobbery attitude thats going on. the fun is being suckied right out of it. its only a forum as ive said umteen times but its becoming really reallly difficult to stop myself becoming one of the nasty people! its hard to stop myself typing the name wanker beside some folks names.

im not leaving, shit i probably wont even log out i just wanted to vent some spleen over this place which used to be good. the sense of community is really giong from here and thats a fucking crying shame!!!!!!! you know what im talking about, the sense of belonging in a club.

i got a pm from someone saying "i dont know shit about sy, go fuck off and listen to your piddling alice in chains crap!" - im not divulging this stupid, absolute ignorants individuals name to save him/her/it the embarrassment of it but to him may i say a big fuck you and get a life, you obviously have no clue how to read letters and words, no sense of humour, and absolutely no brains in that hollow capacity known as a head! see this is what i mean, im getting very close to being nasty paulybee........ maybe i should sign up an alterego!

sorry for this, just needed to get this shit out in the open...........

pull your heads out of your asses and get back to whats important here, sonic community!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT- ive bumped this cuz it seems relative to the moment and fucked if im typing it again!

porkmarras 06.16.2006 04:11 AM

Sweep them off then.

candymoan 06.16.2006 04:18 AM

the board tends to get boring from time to time..
what i do is - i lay off for a while..
i don't have to be here.. i can easily do something else..

but i tend to come back..
again..
and again..

until i get bored yet again..

it works out, and i don't get to complain about it..

PAULYBEE2656 06.16.2006 04:21 AM

again sorry for posting this.. im thinking about deleting the rant. but i think some folk should see it.

porkmarras 06.16.2006 04:23 AM

I'm developing a sense that allows me to blank entire threads and posts alltogether.Some of the utter rubbish that has been posted yesterday is a shame but i aint care in the slightest.

fishmonkey 06.16.2006 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAULYBEE2656
i got a pm from someone saying "i dont know shit about sy, go fuck off and listen to your piddling alice in chains crap!"


who the mofo that said this?
dont fuck with the irish boys.

good point well made PAULYBEE.

Tokolosh 06.16.2006 04:27 AM

Cheer up Pauly.
It's not all that bad. :)

porkmarras 06.16.2006 04:30 AM

PAULYBEE2656 try the D.I.Y. SY forum.All you have to do is put on ignore all the posters whose posts you are certain are incosequential.It's very dada and it makes for surreal reading.

toxic johnny 06.16.2006 04:52 AM

Hey Paulybee don't let it get you down... the recent negative shit on this forum pisses me off too but like Porkmarras I've found a way to ignore it... Imagine Rise Above by Black Flag playing while you are reading this.

JEALOUS COWARDS TRY TO CONTROL
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
THEY DISTORT WHAT WE SAY
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
TRY AND STOP WHAT WE DO
RISE ABOVE
WHEN THEY CAN'T DO IT THEMSELVES
WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR ABUSE
TRY TO STOP US IT'S NO USE
SOCIETY'S ARMS OF CONTROL
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
THINK THEY'RE SMART
CAN'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
LAUGH AT US
BEHIND OUR BACKS
I FIND SATISFACTION
IN WHAT THEY LACK
WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR ABUSE
TRY TO STOP US IT'S NO USE
WE ARE BORN WITH A CHANCE
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
I AM GONNA HAVE MY CHANCE
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR ABUSE
TRY TO STOP US IT'S NO USE
RISE ABOVE
RISE ABOVE
RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE
WE'RE GONNA RISE ABOVE

Pookie 06.16.2006 04:56 AM

Being new to the forum, I did find it strange how negative a lot of posts seem to be. I don't mind the flippant, funny, ironic etc., but the sniping at each other is a bit annoying. After all, we were all drawn to this forum because of what we've got in common.

I think you have to just be selective in what you read/take part in.

Vodka Goblin 06.16.2006 05:01 AM

What can y'do eh it's like I say that the haters and the fascists y'talkin about all suk big time but at least they ain't elves or gnomes y'kno bein all critical just cos y'dont live in a tree or sumthin jus tell em y'kno tell 'em SCREWWWW YOU gnomeboy cos y'kno gnomeboy is a pretti bad insult where I'm livin that's just by the Forest of Light where the fukkin elves n gnomes rule it all, stinks like a fukkin gnomes dinner, that's cos they all corrupt n stuff anyway jus tell the haters to go screw cos Deicide said it best y'kno when they sid AGHHH WRAGHHH YAGHHHHHHHHHHH sure you agree see y'later.

candymoan 06.16.2006 05:07 AM

sonic buddies..

the board has been crowded with newbies lately..
the surge is related to the release of the new album..
some of the fans are just realizing this place, and some are trolls..

ignore them, it will pass..

whorefrost 06.16.2006 05:09 AM

i'm bored of my physical surroundings

Phlegmscope 06.16.2006 05:11 AM

For some reason I feel it's been the same for about two years, ever since nurse came out causing a flood of new members. All the oldies have been whining ever since, and I concur to an extent (although back then I was one of the annoying noobs, god I wrote some stupid shit).
But all in all, nothing new under the sun.
I just try to stay off the flamewars.

_slavo_ 06.16.2006 05:39 AM

well, these kind of threads have been coming up since I first joined (october 2004 or so)

so is it really such a question of today's state of things?

Phlegmscope 06.16.2006 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
well, these kind of threads have been coming up since I first joined (october 2004 or so)


Yeah, I joined in late 2003, so I apparently saw a glimpse of what once was good but will never be again.

_slavo_ 06.16.2006 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phlegmscope
Yeah, I joined in late 2003, so I apparently saw a glimpse of what once was good but will never be again.


i wonder how...maybe not so many wanna-be-fucking-funny-and-ironic types of guys are more community spirit? probably

sonicl 06.16.2006 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic johnny
Hey Paulybee don't let it get you down... the recent negative shit on this forum pisses me off too but like Porkmarras I've found a way to ignore it... Imagine Rise Above by Black Flag playing while you are reading this.


Agreed.

truncated 06.16.2006 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic johnny
Hey Paulybee don't let it get you down... the recent negative shit on this forum pisses me off too but like Porkmarras I've found a way to ignore it...


I think the problem is not so much the mud-slinging/attempts at witticisms/mindless banter, but the people who take the aforementioned far too seriously.

To instigate a feud based on someone's musical preferences is just absurd. Of course, we comment negatively on others' taste, but at least for me personally, it doesn't mean I actually have any animosity toward that person.

A sense of community is all warm and fuzzy and heartening and all, but the benefit of a forum to me lies in the exchange of opinions, and the dissension that provides new perspectives. Collectively worshipping SY only provides so much conversational meat.

The only persistent problem I've noticed are the isolated incidents in which a new (and in some cases veteran) poster comes along and attempts to incite asinine conflicts. In those cases, I blame not the troll, but you dumb fucks who take the bait and perpetuate the arguments.

Two current examples: khchris(original) and Sonic Susie.

If their targets are too volatile or moronic to ignore their petty attempts at amusing themselves, then they deserve any resultant grief.

The point I'm (quite convolutedly) trying to make is, the board is bound to have its valleys, but for the most part (and I'm not referring to you at all PAULYBEE), the people who complain about the negativity on the board are, by their mere acknowledgement of the situation, the ones who are perpetuating it most.

And above all, LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP! I know acerbic wit is a dying and oft-misinterpreted art form, but christ, at least make an ATTEMPT not to be so painfully dense.

SONIC LOVE!
SY 4 LYFE!
ROCK ON!

Piss off now, I'm getting emotional.

porkmarras 06.16.2006 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated
I think the problem is not so much the mud-slinging/attempts at witticisms/mindless banter, but the people who take the aforementioned far too seriously.

To instigate a feud based on someone's musical preferences is just absurd. Of course, we comment negatively on others' taste, but at least for me personally, it doesn't mean I actually have any animosity toward that person.

A sense of community is all warm and fuzzy and heartening and all, but the benefit of a forum to me lies in the exchange of opinions, and the dissension that provides new perspectives. Collectively worshipping SY only provides so much conversational meat.

The only persistent problem I've noticed are the isolated incidents in which a new (and in some cases veteran) poster comes along and attempts to incite asinine conflicts. In those cases, I blame not the troll, but you dumb fucks who take the bait and perpetuate the arguments.

Two current examples: khchris(original) and Sonic Susie.

If their targets are too volatile or moronic to ignore their petty attempts at amusing themselves, then they deserve any resultant grief.

The point I'm (quite convolutedly) trying to make is, the board is bound to have its valleys, but for the most part (and I'm not referring to you at all PAULYBEE), the people who complain about the negativity on the board are, by their mere acknowledgement of the situation, the ones who are perpetuating it most.

And above all, LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP! I know acerbic wit is a dying and oft-misinterpreted art form, but christ, at least make an ATTEMPT not to be so painfully dense.

SONIC LOVE!
SY 4 LYFE!
ROCK ON!

Piss off now, I'm getting emotional.

Truncated you are on top form today!

toxic johnny 06.16.2006 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truncated

The only persistent problem I've noticed are the isolated incidents in which a new (and in some cases veteran) poster comes along and attempts to incite asinine conflicts. In those cases, I blame not the troll, but you dumb fucks who take the bait and perpetuate the arguments.

Two current examples: khchris(original) and Sonic Susie.

If their targets are too volatile or moronic to ignore their petty attempts at amusing themselves, then they deserve any resultant grief.



This is exactly what I was referring to Truncated... such feuds get tedious very quickly.

Also I agree about the banality of collective SY worship... as this induces further tedium... there should be more constructive debate.

val-holla-ing 06.16.2006 06:33 AM

i was under the impression that a good bit of the back and forth was being done in good fun and not to be taken seriously.

porkmarras 06.16.2006 06:36 AM

It would be nice to have more homosexuals on the board though.Something like 10% would be ok.

val-holla-ing 06.16.2006 06:37 AM

no homo.

porkmarras 06.16.2006 06:37 AM

yes homo.

Pookie 06.16.2006 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
It would be nice to have more homosexuals on the board though.Something like 10% would be ok.

How do you know there aren't?

Phlegmscope 06.16.2006 06:38 AM

The only thing I'm a bit bummed is the departure of many commonweal contributors, like sonicrussia, the houston posse, waxy, guppyfish and the others whom I can't remember. Even Kolera fucking bailed out!

porkmarras 06.16.2006 06:38 AM

And more ethnic minorities.And more older people.

porkmarras 06.16.2006 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
How do you know there aren't?

Not enough camp posts.;)

porkmarras 06.16.2006 06:40 AM

And less twats generally.

_slavo_ 06.16.2006 06:41 AM

shentov kind of dissapeared, and so did atsonicpark
which is a shame, they were two of my favourite witty posters

Pookie 06.16.2006 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Not enough camp posts.;)


(Gruff voice): I'll have you know I'm a father of 2. Thanks for the wink though.

jon boy 06.16.2006 06:48 AM

it becoming a clique.

problem i see with this place is too many people trying to be top dog of some kind of fictional heirachy. too much ass kissing and pretending to be some kind of hyper intelligent being. this place has become overun with sycophantic boredom. its so obvious and getting incresingly tedious.

this place is turning into a clique very rapidy and it sucks.

so what if someone posts in a way that you dont like or whatever, who really cares about grammar and spelling? its an internet forum. but it used to be fun here and it really isnt anymore.

there is a lot of annoyance here now and a lot of the old time board members dont post here as much which says a a lot i think.

cue someone to have a go at this post. eat a dick.

Phlegmscope 06.16.2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
it becoming a clique.

problem i see with this place is too many people trying to be top dog of some kind of fictional heirachy. too much ass kissing and pretending to be some kind of hyper intelligent being. this place has become overun with sycophantic boredom. its so obvious and getting incresingly tedious.

this place is turning into a clique very rapidy and it sucks.


Are you saying the old board wasn't cliqued? Every board I've posted has had cliques, in my opinion it's inevitable.
The original hey//¨//*^/*^¨' -thread was a good example of this kind of thing.

val-holla-ing 06.16.2006 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
And more ethnic minorities.And more older people.


i wish there were more ethnic minorities here, too. i get lonely sometimes.



still...no homo, though.

jon boy 06.16.2006 07:04 AM

Are you saying the old board wasn't cliqued?

not saying that no. but i am saying is that its very fractured and not fun. yes these places do have ups and downs, but generally this board has been on a massive downward turn for some time.

porkmarras 06.16.2006 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
i wish there were more ethnic minorities here, too. i get lonely sometimes.



still...no homo, though.

In that case......no val-holla-ing types then.They should rot somewhere in space.

Glice 06.16.2006 07:08 AM

I've thought long and hard about this. My considered response runs thusly:




Meh.

Glice 06.16.2006 07:09 AM

Rejected responses include:

Bothered. Bothered loads.

Miunno.

Yeah, but watchagunnado?

&

I CAN SEE THE SKY MUMMY!!!! MUMMY, LOOK AT THE STARS!!!!!

sonicl 06.16.2006 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
this place is turning into a clique very rapidy and it sucks.

I agree that this can be a pretty clique-y board sometimes, but I think it is actually far less so than the old one. I always felt like I was a bit-part player on the old board, even though I was on there for about three years before it closed down, and there was a definite feeling of there being an "old guard" who ruled the roost. I got flamed numerous times for stating an honest opinion, and in the end I hardly ever wanted to post. This new board is generally much more welcoming, I think.


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