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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.22.2009 08:24 PM

melancholy
 
one of those days you catch yourself with your foot in your mouth and your heart on your sleeve..

Went around the way for you
Did all the things you asked me to
I thought it was the perfect day
till she just opened to say..

It doesn't mean a thing to me
It doesn't mean a thing to me
And it's about time you see
Things ain't like they used to be

I headed out to Lester Hill
But that just made me weaker still
She's got the kind of love I need
The kind that's never good on me

It doesn't mean a thing to me
It doesn't mean a thing to me
And it's about time you see
That things ain't like they used to be

Walked into the battle blind
It happens almost all the time
The yard is kinda overgrown
And all those happy times are gone

But it doesn't mean a thing to me
It doesn't mean a thing to me
And it's about time you see
That things ain't like they used to be

atsonicpark 03.22.2009 08:36 PM

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repeat slow bit & then intro/otttro to end

ZEROpumpkins 03.23.2009 01:41 AM

I like when I'm in a melancholy mood. I feel so badass for some reason.

terminal pharmacy 03.23.2009 05:02 AM

hmmmm
 

Toilet & Bowels 03.23.2009 05:51 AM

melancholy was once considered a disease

ZEROpumpkins 03.23.2009 06:11 AM

Is that true?

Toilet & Bowels 03.23.2009 06:33 AM

yes, nostalgia also.

ZEROpumpkins 03.23.2009 06:34 AM

Yeah I knew about nostalgia, interesting eh haha.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.23.2009 12:41 PM

That there
Thats not me
I go
Where I please
I walk through walls
I float down the liffey
Im not here
This isnt happening
Im not here
Im not here

In a little while
Ill be gone
The moments already passed
Yeah its gone
And Im not here
This isnt happening
Im not here
Im not here

Strobe lights and blown speakers
Fireworks and hurricanes
Im not here
This isnt happening
Im not here
Im not here

Lurker 03.23.2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
melancholy was once considered a disease



That's because it was used as the name for depression. The meaning of the word has changed, that's all.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.23.2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurker
That's because it was used as the name for depression. The meaning of the word has changed, that's all.


yes, my black bile must be in disproportionate levels.. Hippocrates was right..

"Melancholic is the personality of an individual characterized by black bile (hence Greek μέλας, melas, "black", + χολή, kholé, "bile"); a person who is a thoughtful ponderer has a melancholic disposition. Often very kind and considerate, melancholics can be highly creative – as in poetry and art - but also can become overly pre-occupied with the tragedy and cruelty in the world, thus becoming depressed."

alteredcourse 03.23.2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous


shudder
You know, I cant even listen to these guys anymore. Just because they were there at one of the most intense periods of my life, besides being naturally melancholic sounding on their own. And I've spent so much time in that place, I feel like I need to stay the hell out.
Nope...stay away!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.23.2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alteredcourse
shudder
You know, I cant even listen to these guys anymore. Just because they were there at one of the most intense periods of my life, besides being naturally melancholic sounding on their own. And I've spent so much time in that place, I feel like I need to stay the hell out.
Nope...stay away!


agreed. unfortunately thats not how it works sometimes, emotions and mood can be rather impetuous, even capricious!

Lurker 03.23.2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
yes, my black bile must be in disproportionate levels.. Hippocrates was right..

"Melancholic is the personality of an individual characterized by black bile (hence Greek μέλας, melas, "black", + χολή, kholé, "bile"); a person who is a thoughtful ponderer has a melancholic disposition. Often very kind and considerate, melancholics can be highly creative – as in poetry and art - but also can become overly pre-occupied with the tragedy and cruelty in the world, thus becoming depressed."



I was talking about melancholy as illness not as humour or melancholic personality type.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.23.2009 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurker
I was talking about melancholy as illness not as humour or melancholic personality type.


so was Hippocrates

demonrail666 03.23.2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
I like when I'm in a melancholy mood. I feel so badass for some reason.


Then the mood you're in probably isn't all that melancholic.

ZEROpumpkins 03.23.2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Then the mood you're in probably isn't all that melancholic.

Badass probably wasn't the most correct term, but when I'm feeling down I feel like I can use it for something, like I'll start producing music and shit. The result of that makes me feel badass ;)

Kloriel 03.23.2009 10:25 PM

Yea, it is like sifting for copper in oranguatang orangtuanang orangatang whatever fuck spelling and fuck author's that steal ideas from the brains of sleeping genius'

demonrail666 03.23.2009 10:37 PM

The problem with melancholia/depression, whatever people want to call it, is that it has vague romantic associations, like someone suffering with it is going to write some profound poem, when the more likely response is going to be a day spent staring blankly at a crack in the ceiling.

Kloriel 03.23.2009 10:41 PM

or misspell an ape perpetually

demonrail666 03.23.2009 10:43 PM

Another classic symptom. You poor, poor bastard.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.23.2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
when the more likely response is going to be a day spent staring blankly at a crack in the ceiling.


melancholy or an acid trip will do that to a day. but, it is not recommended to mix the three.

demonrail666 03.23.2009 10:47 PM

Which is why they invented DMT. Fifteen minutes of ceiling scrutiny instead of the usual eight hours. The drug of choice for the modern hectic lifestyle. Just don't try jogging on it. I did. The results were ... interesting.

Sonic Youth 37 03.23.2009 10:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnoI7Be4VZk

ZEROpumpkins 03.23.2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Which is why they invented DMT. Fifteen minutes of ceiling scrutiny instead of the usual eight hours. The drug of choice for the modern hectic lifestyle. Just don't try jogging on it. I did. The results were ... interesting.

Hahaha. My mate did DMT and said he didn't notice too much. Guess he did it wrong eh?

demonrail666 03.23.2009 10:54 PM

if you swallow it, almost nothing happens. Smoke it though ... not a suitable drug for jogging ... at all.

ZEROpumpkins 03.24.2009 01:31 AM

He did smoke it. I remember it vividly because I had just finished 6 bong loads, and was amazed at the concept of smoking crystals.

demonrail666 03.24.2009 01:58 AM

I suppose there might be some people who simply aren't affected by it. It's chemical make-up is something we all produce a form of naturally so it's quite possible that your friend has a tolerance to it. It's also really harsh to smoke and if you cough any up on the first hit the little you do take in can produce a short-term tolerance meaning you'll have to wait a while before trying again. I've also heard that using it soon after taking LSD can reduce its impact, but even then it's just a reduction - like a lack of visuals but still getting the physical affects. Other than that I just don't know.

If it had worked properly he would have (according to a survey I found online regarding a cross-section of users) experienced some or all of the following:
  • Sense of transcending time or space
  • Experience presence of strange plants or plantlike forms
  • Have a sensation of the universe as a formless vibration
  • Experience visuals of strange machines
  • Hear alien music and/or languages, understandable or not
  • Experience the presence of intelligent entities in a variety of forms
As I said, not good for jogging ... or anything else that involves your arms or legs for that matter.

ZEROpumpkins 03.24.2009 02:52 AM

Honestly I really doubt he had that much. It's pretty potent shit eh?

demonrail666 03.24.2009 03:32 AM

Yeah, very. I only took it once about a year ago. I didn't have anything like the affects that some people say they have but it was still incredibly intense. I didn't get the 'alien' stuff that people talk about, but maybe I did, because I can't actually remember most of it. That's the weirdest thing, you forget the affects almost instantly after its finished. I just remember moments where I felt genuinely out of my body and having the most insane visuals. It's not really a leisure drug at all. It's far too intense for that. A lot of hippie 'spiritual' types are advocating it as the ultimate psychedelic and suggesting everyone should try it. I wouldn't disagree with the 'ultimate' bit, but can't agree that everyone should try it. I'm definitely not in any hurry to do it again. Not that it was horrible, just far too intense.

ZEROpumpkins 03.24.2009 04:03 AM

My mind is not ready for shit like that. Not many people's are.

demonrail666 03.24.2009 04:14 AM

Exactly. Listen to this twat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.24.2009 12:02 PM

DMT comes in a wide variety of potency..

my friend smoked me out a batch that was $500 a gram, and that shit was intense, I had to do everything I could not to evaporate right there in his living room..

another batch I got which was $100 a gram was much mellower, a "working-man's trip" as you describe, and I enjoyed it terribly, it was like instant clarity and meditation..

not like that potent salvia, which sends you to literally to hell and back, in a colossal journey which lasts no more than three minutes but will feel the closest to eternity that you will ever comprehend in your lifetime..

but I wouldn't mess with any of that right now, this melancholy still hasn't went away, instead it is dragging me morosely through the day.. I can barely get to smoking any herb even.

Lurker 03.24.2009 12:48 PM

I feel melancholy a lot of the time. And I sometimes feel weird when I'm really properly happy.

demonrail666 03.24.2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

but I wouldn't mess with any of that right now, this melancholy still hasn't went away, instead it is dragging me morosely through the day.. I can barely get to smoking any herb even.


I think you've hit the major problem with a drug like DMT right on the head. Its short term effects make it seem suitable for someone in today's hectic lifestyle but the stress that comes with such a modern lifestyle makes DMT a pretty hazardous prospect. People who I know that've done it quite a few times lead extremely chilled lives and have no issues with things like stress or depression. For the rest of us, a pint of guinness is infinitely preferable. Conversing with aliens might be fine for some people but is never a good idea when you've already got demons of your own to deal with. Life's difficult enough as it is without throwing DMT into the mix. As such, it's probably best left to the trust-fund hippies and the Incas, I reckon.

EDIT: It'd not heard of salvia before, but from how you describe it I'll be giving it an extremely wide birth. Hell isn't a place I have any desire to visit, even if it is only for three minutes.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 03.24.2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666

EDIT: It'd not heard of salvia before, but from how you describe it I'll be giving it an extremely wide birth. Hell isn't a place I have any desire to visit, even if it is only for three minutes.


Salvia divinorum, also known as Diviner’s Sage,[2] ska María Pastora,[3] or simply by the genus name Salvia, is a psychoactive herb which can induce strong dissociative effects. It is a member of the sage genus and the Lamiaceae (mint) family.[4] The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally translates to “sage of the seers”.[5]
Salvia divinorum has a long and continuing tradition of religious use as an entheogen by indigenous Mazatec shamans, who use it to facilitate visionary states of consciousness during spiritual healing sessions.[1] The plant is found in isolated, shaded, and moist plots in Oaxaca, Mexico. It grows to well over a meter in height. It has hollow square stems, large green leaves, and occasional white and purple flowers. It is thought to be a cultigen.[6]
Its primary psychoactive constituent is a diterpenoid known as salvinorin A,[7][8] which is a potent κ-opioid receptor agonist. Salvinorin A is unique in that it is the only naturally occurring substance known to induce a visionary state this way. Salvia divinorum can be chewed, smoked, or taken as a tincture to produce experiences ranging from laughter to much more intense and profoundly altered states. The duration of effects is much shorter than that of other, more well-known psychoactive compounds; the effects of smoked Salvia typically last for only a few minutes. The most commonly reported after-effects include an increased feeling of insight, an improved mood, a sense of calmness, and an increased sense of connection with nature—though, much less often, it may also cause dysphoria (unpleasant or uncomfortable mood).[9] Salvia divinorum is not generally understood to be toxic or addictive, and as a κ-opioid agonist, it may have potential as an analgesic and as a therapeutic tool for treating drug addictions.


(oh yeah, this shit is insane, it is the only thing I have ever truly hallucinated on, multiple occassions, and it was a frightening uncontrollable vision quest at that..)


it lasts minutes, but they are the strongest most intense minutes you have ever experienced in your whole fucking life.. you will leave your body and reappear in an alternate universe entirely.. unless you get a weak batch, then it is much like a mellow candy-fry.. pray for the mellow batch if you smoke it, the heavy batch will FUCK YOU UP..

phoenix 03.26.2009 07:32 AM

 


 


 


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