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noumenal 03.26.2006 02:21 AM

Non-fiction Books
 
Recommend some non-fiction books that you like.

Here are some from me:

Paul Griffiths - Modern Music and After

Alasdair MacIntyre - After Virtue

Donald Kroodsma - The Singing Life of Birds

Roger Scruton - The Aesthetics of Music

Douglas R. Hofstadter - Godel, Escher, Bach

Daniel C. Dennett - Consciousness Explained

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Thucydides - History of the Peloponnesian War

Any Greek or Roman historical accounts. Extremely entertaining.

khchris 03.26.2006 04:52 AM

Just finished reading A Million Little Pieces by James Frey

loved it

actually any Oprah book of the month is good reading.

You can't go wrong with Hitler's Mein Kampf either.:)

whorefrost 03.26.2006 04:58 AM

haha
my girlfriend actually bought a million little pieces... and i actually read about a third of it... it's not completely terrible... pretty trite but strangely enjoyable... like watching bad TV whilst mindnumbingly bored....

i'm reading a philosophy of boredom just now which isn't bad but not great... some interesting stuff but some irrevelevant waffle as well....

has anyone read guns, germs and steel? i got it a little while ago, haven't got round to it yet... it seems quite interesting....

truncated 03.26.2006 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khchris
Just finished reading A Million Little Pieces by James Frey

loved it

actually any Oprah book of the month is good reading.

You can't go wrong with Hitler's Mein Kampf either.:)


I will say, you can actually get some entertaining novels from Oprah's Book Club. She has Joyce Carol Oates in there a lot, who I tend to like (but sometimes hate).

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Another fantastic book (these are probably of only the remotest interest to people who give a shit about Roman history): Livy's The Early History of Rome. (I decided to observe the formal rules of book titles for once, instead of just putting them in quotes.)

Iain 03.26.2006 09:37 AM

I almost bought that History of the Peloponnesian War book not so long ago. But damned if I can recall which book shop I saw it in.

Jerry Manders 'Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television' is a good one. It's not as angry and confrontational as the title suggests. He writes in a pretty level headed and balanced way.

I liked Ray Kurzweils 'The Age of Spiritual Machines' a lot. Although I'm not really sure I totally agree with his stance. (That it's inevitable that machines will one day exceed human intelligence).

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 03.26.2006 09:57 AM

death be not proud.
A journalist wrote it about his sons life after he died of some disease.

Alex's Trip 03.26.2006 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khchris
Just finished reading A Million Little Pieces by James Frey

loved it

actually any Oprah book of the month is good reading.

You can't go wrong with Hitler's Mein Kampf either.:)


Didn't that book turn out to be not all that non-fiction...

schizophrenicroom 03.26.2006 12:31 PM

David Foster Wallace's Consider The Lobster is a good read.

Anything by Chuck Klosterman is good, too.

dietzer123 03.26.2006 12:31 PM

i've read guns germs and steel. it's fucking fantastic

Hip Priest 03.26.2006 12:57 PM

One of my prized possessions is a copy of Oliver Cromwell; A History by Samuel HArden Church, Litt. D, A.M. It's the 1899 edition, celebrating the 300th anniversary of Cromwell's birth, and was limited to 600 copies, each hand-signed and numbered. Mine is number 487. So I have to say that as one.

Other non-fiction books I'm most fond of include:

Synchronicity by C G Jung,

Wally Hammond: The Reasons Why by David Foot,

A Mirrror of Witchcraft by Christina Hole,

The Golden Bough by Sir James George Frazer,

and two books about my local area, both late 19th century, by Hilda Gamlin; namely 'Twixt Mersey and Dee and Chronicles or Memories of Birkenhead

Iain 03.26.2006 01:03 PM

Whaaaaa? 1899 edition. Ltd to 600? That must be worth a shitload. There must also be a good story as to how a book such as that came into your posession. And there I was salivating over a 1st edition of Philip K Dicks Ubik in a bookshop window just the other day.

Hip Priest 03.26.2006 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain
Whaaaaa? 1899 edition. Ltd to 600? That must be worth a shitload. There must also be a good story as to how a book such as that came into your posession....


Not much of a story; I'm a Cromwell fan, and I love antiquarian books. I spend so much time in antiquarian bookshops that occaisionally something special comes my way (that's exactly why I spend quite so much time there). And the dealers know me, thyey'll keep stuff for me to see, and give me a discount. That's how the book world works, it's nice.

Felicia Funbags 03.26.2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip Priest
Not much of a story; I'm a Cromwell fan, and I love antiquarian books. I spend so much time in antiquarian bookshops that occaisionally something special comes my way (that's exactly why I spend quite so much time there). And the dealers know me, thyey'll keep stuff for me to see, and give me a discount. That's how the book world works, it's nice.


I never buy valuable editions of books, because there's no hope of me keeping them in good condition.

I'm one of those people who dog-ear books, drop them in the tub, spill tea on them, bend the covers, etc.

Same with vinyl - I could NEVER leave an album unopened in its original packaging. I could never resist the satanic pull to play it.

LifeDistortion 03.26.2006 01:40 PM

Rotton-The John Lydon autobiography was pretty good.

schizophrenicroom 03.26.2006 02:51 PM

I liked that, LifeD. In sort of the same vein, Please Kill Me by Legs McNeil is a good read too.

golden child 03.26.2006 03:05 PM

pretty funny how oprah went horseshit on frey, i wasnt really interested in it at all previously. now that everyone hates him and its not all the non-fiction its sparked my interest and im gonna be reading that.

right now im reading a heartbreaking work of staggering genius by dave eggers and its pretty good.

bob dylans book was good

i cant really think, but ill post more as they come to me...

OH YEAH

i night by elie wiesel was really good, my mom bought it for me after she saw it on oprah

sonikold 03.26.2006 03:41 PM

bruce chatwin- what am i doing here?
(travels the world, meets amazing people, one of the best writers i've ever read)

noumenal 03.26.2006 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felicia Funbags
I never buy valuable editions of books, because there's no hope of me keeping them in good condition.

I'm one of those people who dog-ear books, drop them in the tub, spill tea on them, bend the covers, etc.



I am exactly the same way - I coonsume books and shit them out.

But in my experience, people who are interested in Greek and Roman history keep their books in pristine condition....

Hip Priest 03.26.2006 04:18 PM

I just had a weird respect (and deep love) for books ever since I was a small child.

One of the most pleasing things in the world is when I buy an old book and inside I find an old, relevant newspaper cutting that a previous owner has left there - it's something I do myself regularly.

A couple more, if I may be so bold:

Full Circle: Shakespeare and Moral Development by Alan Hobson

The Progress of the Soul by Richard E Hughes (a biography of JOhn Donne)

schizophrenicroom 03.26.2006 04:26 PM

I like buying old books that obviously were given to someone as a gift, but they sold them or someone was studying it. At this second-hand bookstore I go to, I bought a copy of The Iliad and inside is all of these notes scrawled about. It's really interesting.

Glice 03.26.2006 04:32 PM

I find nothing more irritating than people who've used a book to study and have underlined sections in pen, as with my recently acquired second-hand copy of Kierkegaards 'concluding unscientific postscript' which is very good. Thanks for your query.

schizophrenicroom 03.26.2006 04:34 PM

It's only really annoying to me if the writing gets in the way of the text. I just liked that this guy's notes simplified it a bit.

noumenal 03.26.2006 04:38 PM

I have a used copy of Thomas Pynchon's V and it is full of somebody's notes, underlined passages, comments, it's interesting.

Iain 03.26.2006 04:45 PM

Yep....peoples notes are pretty interesting for the most part but they can annoy in equal measures as well. I would be interested to read anyones notes on V though.

schizophrenicroom 03.26.2006 04:52 PM

I was going to buy a copy of Ulysses by James Joyce with notes in it, and decided not to. Now I wish I had.

Hip Priest 03.26.2006 04:53 PM

I've got a couple of Shakespeare's plays with old observations in. I find them quite interesting, all in all.

golden child 03.26.2006 08:47 PM

i have the last days of pompei, 1887 edition

krastian 03.26.2006 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
Rotton-The John Lydon autobiography was pretty good.


I read/have that....horrible title though.

Oh and read Alive! It's a good book and insane.

whorefrost 03.27.2006 05:04 AM

my friend's dad has a copy of Rules for Radicals and lots of stuff is underlined... he was clearly a budding activist in his day... i study publishing and our tutor has a deep respect for books... he actually finds spine bending in paperbacks contemptible... he once told us that books are sacred items... he's quite a cool guy although i find him slightly intimidating for reasons beyond my ken

Iain 03.27.2006 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by whorefrost
he actually finds spine bending in paperbacks contemptible... he once told us that books are sacred items... he's quite a cool guy although i find him slightly intimidating for reasons beyond my ken


Maybe because he finds spine bending contemptible.....that's scary. He might whack you one if yr textbook is a bit dogeared.

jon boy 03.27.2006 06:19 AM

maybe he is perfectionist. as much as i like to keep, my books and records in as good condition as possible they always end up getting tattered and old before their time looking.

i do bend spines.

Iain 03.27.2006 06:33 AM

Yeah...you can't really help it can you? I won't crack a spine for fun but y'know, somtimes you need to open it up to read the words and stuff.

khchris 03.27.2006 08:29 AM

This book is unfortunately fiction (or is it?)

but it's damn good


 

RdTv 03.27.2006 09:01 AM

Get In The Van by Henry Rollins - journaled his tours with black flag, great reading and some nice poetry as well.

Air Conditoned Nightmare by Henry Miller - Miller returns to USA after being expatriated to france and travels the country dissecting out culture in mid 40's, MUST READ!!!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 03.27.2006 11:29 AM

I like Boy and Going Solo by Roald Dahl.

And, lets see how many people I can piss off with this one, the Bible is a great nonfiction too.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 03.27.2006 11:32 AM

Before things get too heavy, this "nonfiction book" is a laugh.

 


I'm a proud owner.

truncated 03.27.2006 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I find nothing more irritating than people who've used a book to study and have underlined sections in pen, as with my recently acquired second-hand copy of Kierkegaards 'concluding unscientific postscript' which is very good. Thanks for your query.


To echo the sentiments of several of you, I like when people make notations in texts - it somehow personalizes them.

While I can appreciate the value of a book as a collector's item, to me, books are tools, meant to be handled and used. If I buy a book secondhand, I correlate the owner's love of the book with the severity of the book's wear. As long as it's still legible, I don't care.

Noumenal, just because I'm a geek, doesn't mean I'm a fastidious geek :p

Inhuman 03.27.2006 11:39 AM

Stargirl's one of my favorites

 


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