Kill Your Idols online
 

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/node/146616

 

Oh, it's the mediocre movie and not the essential seminal e.p....

oh thanks for the link. I really like tht movie and I got it on dvd but my mac wont play region one coded dvds anymore because I switched the dvd drive too often. so I take this as a chance of refreshing my memory

how can I switch to the next part?

yes thanks Moshe, i've never seen this because it's only available on Region 1 dvd

uhmm, it's distributed here in italy too!

so it's available in region 0 or 2 then aswell, ok thanks nic i didn't know this.

^^^region 2 or import?
cause ive imported mine as region 1

they added italian subtitles so I guess it's been "converted" (or wathever the correct word is). Btw, I've seen that one I linked and another with the usual "brownish" cover, no idea if that is another version or the same rarovideo one with different art. Will check out next time I stop in shops that carry them.

are italian record shops still notorious for bootleggin? as I remmeber a few years ago I was blasted by 100eds of bootlegs beneath the original artists for almost any of them

the link won't work for me:


SELECT * FROM lang_dictionary WHERE tipoMsg='label' AND langCode='ITA'
error number: -2147467259
Risorse di sistema insufficienti.
Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=D:\www\clienti\www.minervapictures.com\database\contents.mdb
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i don't know either :confused: it looks like thats all there is :(

aaah, that site is a mess, try clicking here
and then on the title. Btw, I think I can find it for a few Euros less in shops...

but they are saying full length just for a week. as I remmeber right there is a lot more to watch

its an advantage to speak italian when going to that site...

maybe you could try and hit the "english" button, then :rolleyes::eek::fuckyou:

ooops
hngrmpf
du italienischer saubub
hahahaha

I had the same problem, but I've never been able to watch it. Fucking region system.

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thx, this is great.

but it's not the whole thing is it?

no it looks like a teaser

but the original teaser to it were different. it featerued almost all artists who appear in the film, and a lot of karen o....

Just get netflix. It's on instant watch on there... er, Actually, don't bother. It REALLY sucks. As soon as they switch to the new bands, it sucks. Needed more footage of DNA and Mars and stuff and less footage of LIARS and Yeah Yeah Yeahs and such.. those bands aren't even no wave... how can they not even MENTION Scissor Girls? Also, there wasn't a lot of history at all, just someone going "they wanted to express themselves with music, so they played some stuff." for about 20 minutes and then BOOM there's Karen O screeching. Just really poor. Amongst the worst documentaries I've ever seen actually.

it's not a teaser, it's the first chapter, but when you watch in on pitchfork's normal site, it won't proceed to further chapters...
just go here: http://pitchfork.tv/ and click on one week only. then it should go to the next chapter after the first has ended. if it's not the case, you can navigate in the section at the bottom right...

HEH

cheers!

To be honest, it was redeemed for me by having the original No Wavers, Lydia Lunch, Glenn Branca and Lee bitching about the current 'scene' (or absence of) in New York. The documentary confirmed for me just how much I like Branca and Lunch as people, I reckon they'd be awesome to meet in person.

i like the documentary, and i am not like a big fan of the liars and the yeah, yeah, yeah's but i think those bands interviews were edited to look like they are fucking idiots, maybe they are. i dunno. but i think it was edited heavily to show how the young people are career driven and all that shit. but if you waved all that money in front of any of those no wave bands i guarentee they would have taken it.

but yeah the o.g. bands were MUCH more original and interesting, but I just doubt that artistic integrity bullshit. like they gave a shit about anything.

is it just me or do the Yeah yeah yeahs come off as m,ore like late 70's early 80's siouxsie and the banshees than anything No Wave?

the original bands in No Wave were out to destroy music, not to make money selling rehashed shit to people.

Agreed.

Yeah Yeah Yeahs just come off as bullshit.

I don't think no wave bands were "out to destroy music". That's more of a noise/industrial thing, stuff like Throbbing Gristle. No wave was just ugly music made by ugly people who didn't know how to play music or wanted to make music that was extremely primitive and direct. No wave, to me, was the logical extension of punk and just like punk it burnt itself out really quickly. Which is probably for the best.

I'd like to acquire some no wave films made around that time.

I was just quoting the no wave artists directly. they have all said at various times that they were out to destroy music.

Industrial was DANCE MUSIC man. whatever it has become now it started as DANCE music, and not out to destroy music.

Yeah man Throbbing Gristle and Einsturzende Neubauten. Gonna do the fucking macarena to that shit!

You are right, there is a genre called "industrial dance". Obviously, I'm not talking about that. And industrial started out as..

The first industrial artists experimented with varying degrees of noise, production techniques and what, at the time, were considered controversial topics. Their production was not only limited to musical output. It also included mail art, performance art, installation pieces and other art forms.

SINCE THEN, perhaps, some of the more mainstream acts have become dancier and stuff. But it definitely didn't start out that way. Perhaps your knowledge of industrial music is limited to Ministry started out as a synthpop band and becoming an industrial metal band later.

hahaha ministry? do they still exist?

Wasn't a lot of the earliest industrial music really like Muisique Concrete?

They released their last album a while back but I think they're still touring until Bush leaves office or something. They have to be one of the most consistent bands of all time.. after a certain point, all their albums are great. I'm probably alone in this, but FILTH PIG is my favorite. Such a dirty, nasty record. Goddamn. I love that thing.

Either way, Rob won't admit that he was wrong. So, there's really nothing else to say.

Musique conrete was an influence on industrial music, but yr right, industrial is a very vague term and covers all sorts of musical groups from the early 70's on.

nitzer ebb, skinny puppy, early minstry, revolting cocks, stuff like that was industrial dance. I stand corretced

Word.

I stand corrected as well then!