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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.04.2008 12:13 PM

Cocaine's influence on Sonic Youth?
 
 

"Coca is a far more potent and far less harmful stimulant than alcohol, and its widespread utilization is hindered at present only by its high cost."

 


"cocaine is a hell of a drug"

al shabbray 10.04.2008 12:23 PM

whats the name of the first guy? I mean the one who isnt rick james...bitch

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.04.2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by al shabbray
whats the name of the first guy? I mean the one who isnt rick james...bitch


another famous, white, american drug addict with a few crazy ideas.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.04.2008 01:04 PM

 

 



 



 

o'connor 10.04.2008 02:52 PM

damn! that bitch on the right of rick james looks like a fucking dude! you'd think he could've gotten some hotter bitches for a photo shoot. just sayin.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.04.2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o'connor
damn! that bitch on the right of rick james looks like a fucking dude! you'd think he could've gotten some hotter bitches for a photo shoot. just sayin.


rick james tastes are less visual, more sensual I suppose. he's an "enjoy the party" kind of guy you know?

RanaldoNecro 10.04.2008 06:30 PM

whats the name of the first guy?

That is Sigmund Freud, Austrian psychoanalyst...

But he could lie and pretend he is American for the Olympics are some late night TV show...

RanaldoNecro 10.04.2008 06:31 PM

like fellow Austrian Arnold

pbradley 10.04.2008 06:51 PM

A hundred dollars used to be more than enough....

atsonicpark 10.04.2008 08:02 PM

is this the right thread to announce that I hate myself and want to die?..

Like that song by that dude who shot himself?

al shabbray 10.04.2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
whats the name of the first guy?

That is Sigmund Freud, Austrian psychoanalyst...

But he could lie and pretend he is American for the Olympics are some late night TV show...


thanks for clearing up. I know freud a lot, but I couldnt have fixed that alone hahaha

atsonicpark 10.04.2008 08:04 PM

sigmund fraud.

RanaldoNecro 10.04.2008 08:55 PM

Whitey album

mandolin 10.05.2008 10:40 PM

In Lee's book JRNLS 80s he talks a lot about cocaine during an Australian tour.

o'connor 10.06.2008 12:31 AM

cocaine is bad mkaaaaay

uhler 10.06.2008 12:39 AM

yeah coke sucks.

batreleaser 10.07.2008 09:35 AM

never like coke unless i was 12 beers deep and needed to stay awake all night. the fact of the matter is, i like eating, sleeping, and fucking more than anything, coke doesnt allow me to do any of those things. im into downers. well, i was into downers. but i havnt done any blow since around spring 07 and no opiates or benxos since about a year ago. just smoke too much pot.

greedrex 10.07.2008 10:08 AM

i tried cocaine a few times.
and each time was crazy excellent.....
i think it also has to do with yr personal state of mind when you take some.
If you feel ok, you'll feel even better.
If you feel bad, it might lead you to negative situations.

I had a blast each time, but i was abroad on vacation each time. So i was totally reckless and had loads of fun , met crazy people.

but anyway the topic was cocaine VS SY.
That was interesting and nobody seems to actually answer the question, if there was ever a question....
I know there was some around the Yoof in the early 80's
the shows at that time really showed hahahahahahaha

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.07.2008 07:07 PM

y'all know this started as a joke on the Coltrane Influence on SY thread right?

The Soup Nazi 10.08.2008 05:48 PM

Early one morning while making the rounds...

How far have SY gone drug-wise, as far as we know? None of 'em has had "a problem", right?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 10.08.2008 05:57 PM

Freud and cocaine

Freud was an early user and proponent of cocaine as a stimulant as well as analgesic. He wrote several articles on the antidepressant qualities of the drug and he was influenced by his friend and confidant Wilhelm Fliess, who recommended cocaine for the treatment of the "nasal reflex neurosis." Fliess operated on Freud and a number of Freud's patients whom he believed to be suffering from the disorder, including Emma Eckstein, whose surgery proved disastrous.[citation needed].
Freud felt that cocaine would work as a panacea for many disorders and wrote a well-received paper, "On Coca," explaining its virtues. He prescribed it to his friend Ernst von Fleischl-Marxow to help him overcome a morphine addiction he had acquired while treating a disease of the nervous system.[citation needed] Freud also recommended it to many of his close family and friends. He narrowly missed out on obtaining scientific priority for discovering cocaine's anesthetic properties (of which Freud was aware but on which he had not written extensively), after Karl Koller, a colleague of Freud's in Vienna, presented a report to a medical society in 1884 outlining the ways in which cocaine could be used for delicate eye surgery. Freud was bruised by this, especially because this would turn out to be one of the few safe uses of cocaine, as reports of addiction and overdose began to filter in from many places in the world. Freud's medical reputation became somewhat tarnished because of this early ambition. Furthermore, Freud's friend Fleischl-Marxow developed an acute case of "cocaine psychosis" as a result of Freud's prescriptions and died a few years later. Freud felt great regret over these events, which later biographers have dubbed "The Cocaine Incident."[citation needed] However, he managed to move on, and even continued to use cocaine.
Jurgen von Scheidt speculated that most of Freud's psychoanalytical theory was a byproduct of his cocaine use.


I disagree with the last sentence, I think he was a brilliant man, but to use that quote by him to justify Cocaine as an ok drug is kind of insane.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 10.08.2008 06:52 PM


 


I dont recall Freud ever proposing any sort of legitimate psychological/psychoanalytical use for cocaine, such as those which are currently conducted in the Netherlands using MDMA and also those which were suggested by Jung in the early 1960s involving LSD. in the end, it really just seems that he liked the stuff, which is fine, many many people do.

of course, me myself, I'm with Pato sayin

"I do not snort the coke I only smoke sensimilla!"

jon boy 10.08.2008 07:31 PM

i dont really see what cocaine has done to influence sonic youth, none of them do it. they may have tried it but otherwise i dont see a link.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 10.08.2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
y'all know this started as a joke on the Coltrane Influence on SY thread right?


SuchFriendsAreDangerous- when something comes from your weed addled mind, I can't tell the difference between things that are jokes and things that are serious at times.

:D

Part of why we love you.

Protectmeyou 10.12.2008 10:52 PM

the sticker on the bass:

 

Kallisti23chaos 10.22.2008 01:40 AM

everyone has their own vices in life

pbradley 10.22.2008 02:55 AM

^ usually the rationalization of the viceful


But raging the town Scareface-style with Thurston would be a blast.

Kallisti23chaos 10.23.2008 07:49 PM

absolutely
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
^ usually the rationalization of the viceful


But raging the town Scareface-style with Thurston would be a blast.


absolutely

Toilet & Bowels 10.23.2008 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
i tried cocaine a few times.
and each time was crazy excellent.....
i think it also has to do with yr personal state of mind when you take some.
If you feel ok, you'll feel even better.
If you feel bad, it might lead you to negative situations.


i disagree, i don't think it alters your mood significantly, i think it's more to do with personality types, the people i know who really like coke tend to share certain personality traits.

The Soup Nazi 10.23.2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
the people i know who really like coke tend to share certain personality traits.



Uncorrected personality traits
That seem whimsical in a child
May prove to be ugly in
A fully grown adult

Lack of involvement with the father
Or over-involvement with the mother
Can result in lack of ability
To relate to sexual peers

And in homosexual leanings
Narcissism, transsexuality --
Girls from the waist up
Men from the waist down --
Attempts to be your own love object
Reconcile your parents to you
By becoming both at once

Even Marilyn Monroe was a man
But this tends to get over looked
By our mother-fixated
Overweight, sexist media

So, uncorrected personality traits
That seem whimsical in a child
May prove to be ugly in
A fully grown adult

If you give in to them
Every time they cry
They will become little tyrants
But they won't remember why
Then when they are thwarted
By people in later life
They will become psychotic
And they won't make an ideal husband or wife

The spoiled baby grows into
The escapist teenager who's
The adult alchoholic who's
The middle-aged suicide

OI!
So

Uncorrected personality traits
That seem whimsical in a child
May prove to be ugly in
A fully grown adult

ihateyouth 10.23.2008 09:11 PM

spare some, you nazi!

The Soup Nazi 10.24.2008 05:21 PM

In dreams I walk with you
In dreams I talk to you
In dreams you’re mine, all of the time we’re together
In dreams, in dreams

ihateyouth 10.24.2008 05:25 PM

you know instead of pointing out the obvious we should make a list of cocaine-inspired songs by sonic youth!

greedrex 10.24.2008 05:36 PM

 

ihateyouth 10.24.2008 05:40 PM

 


pacino's ass.


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