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SYR8: Pitchfork gets it right?
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/articl...af-sonic-youth
A glowing review. And an 8.2 rating. From Pitchfork! |
That's well and good, but I'm failing to see what's to be surprised about.
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good review.
and good afterwords. |
"FUCK PITCHFORK"
"PITCHFORK SUCKS" "NO PITCHFORK RULES NOW" ......... mersbow wolves eyes |
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i read that too, and was very surprised. pitchfork usually rips something like that apart. an 8.2 is probably the exact same score id give it. |
Yeah. Just saying I'm surprised is all.
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Iunno. I just can't be too surprised about this. They did give SYR4 an 8.5 after all and that one seems way more prone to be picked apart than SYR8.
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Maybe I oughta just shut my big fat mouth then, huh?
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I didn't mean it like that bby. :^(
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haha
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Pitchfork can go blow-blow-blowdry their hair.
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Who cares what pitchfork thinks?
about one million hipster kids but still |
I dont' get it. I mean. It's not like I actually CARE what any magazine thinks. But I'll certainly read about a subjec that interests me. Pfork has a lot of readers, whether the readers agree with their views or not.
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Anyone
remember NYC G&F 0.0 ? remember ? |
Yeah, that's why I was surprised at this review. Though they did give Daydream Deluxe like a 9 or a 10.
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pitchfork rates albums based on "hipness" if its a classic album of the genre w/ critical acclaim then it will get a high rating.
pitchfork is for "hipsters" that need their music "spoon-fed". nuff said. |
In a sense, I kind of feel like anti-Pitchforkers are just as snobby as the hipsters who swear by Pitchfork.
Personally if its regarding a subject I'm interested in (SYR8 perhaps) I'll read any article, review in any mag regardless, and then form my own opinion. |
Yes essentially it's the music reviewer's porogative to give their opinion, if they think it deserves 0.0 or 9.0 then they're entitle to say that - as long as they're reviewing the MUSIC, and nothing else. This is why I was so angered by certain reviews not reviewing Primal Scream's Beautiful Future but Bobby Gillespie. In my view, anyone who turns to Pitchfork etc. for musical guidance is nothing short of an idiot, it is subjective opinion afterall, and the legions of hipsters who scorn and feel threatened by Pitchfork are forgetting the first rule of musical elitism: everyone is entitle to your opinion.
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thats the same way as I do, and for that reason I really enjoyed reading the review, even if it would have ripped SYR8 apart. but I am like a sponge when it comes to reviews. btw the pitchfork search functions suck big times, or is it just me, not able to use it properly? cant find anything with it |
Er. Pitchfork is not a single entity. It's a bunch of very different people with very strong opinions. If the guy sitting next to him had written it, it might have gotten a 2.
Which is the only reason I hate Pitchfork. They're oblivious to "objectivity". As much as I disagree with Christgau on a ton of stuff, he's the ideal music journalist. |
search functions been broken a few months.
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how do you got the link to SYR8 then?
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People should stop listening to music critics in general I think. People should just listen to an album and if they like it or don't like it then that's fine. I suppose critics help you know which albums to check out but I'm sure most of the people on this board are at a stage where they don't need 'guidance' in what to listen to.
I say this, yet I still want to study journalism, weird, whatever haha. |
There's nothing wrong with listening to critics, but you have to know how to listen to them. It's like getting a recommendation from a friend. You run the risk of disagreeing with them, and sometimes make a bad choice based on it, but if you read reviews right they can still be very helpful.
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I agree and disagree. I never actually "listen" to a critic. But I will read something I see printed about a band that I like. It's no different to me than posting on here in the non-sonic sounds section. Maybe atsonicpark likes The Fall, and then someone else posts that they don't. I'll read what the two parties say, but ultimately will listen for myself and decide what I think.
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I agree with acousticrock... Derek's assumption seems to be that reading a review is the same thing as agreeing with it (or "listening" to the critic.)
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i just enjoy reading people talk about music.
especially if they enjoyed the piece and are enthusiastic |
I think thats it for me too
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Wait, someone posts something about pitchfork and it turns into a pro-pitchfork vs anti-pitchfork argument?
That's crazy! That's never happened before! |
adam, I can't BELIEVE you didnt comment on my Fall remark. Haha.
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i like pitchfork, and i read it almost daily. apart from news and reviews, i also think they're running some interesting weekly columns and the odd interview.
my main motivation for using the site, is to seek out albums by bands i don't know, or bands that i haven't yet checked out for myself. i mean, there's so much being put out there, that it's impossible to keep up with everything. i find pitchfork to be a pretty neat filter in that respect; sure, you're bound to miss out on a helluva lot, not just by the selection that they're putting up, but also negative, turn-off reviews. i'll admit that i'll rarely check out an unknown band that just got slaughtered. but hey, life's too short, and my cash flow isn't exactly perky, so i'll have to make compromises. i think pitchfork is great, actually. |
Half the time I agree: Deerhunter.
Half the time I disagree: Fleet Foxes. |
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Well, there's really nothing to say... oh well, fuck it. The Fall rule, one of the best bands ever. |
He shoots, he scores!
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you work for Pitchfork don't you? |
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i'm the one who slaughtered NYC ghosts & flowers ;) but seriously, that is a crap record. there's no denying that. |
Yes, there is denying that.
Also, Pitchfork is a corporate music website motivated purely by money and nothing more. There has been proof published in the past that record companies pay them for the good reviews. How can anyone trust that? If you like it, great. Personally, I very very rarely have read anything on there, mainly because I don't like their writing style or most of the music they cover. |
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yeah bro, totally crap, like, we should all just dig on fleet foxes, cuz like, sonic youth is old, and like wierd, now. fleet foxes man. pitchfork forever/ |
I know I started it. But I'm gonna wash my hands to this pointless thread.
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