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afterthefact 08.07.2008 11:23 AM

Bands that were good and got bad.
 
I wrote and HUGE post on this topic. About why it happens and how it could be avoided. I then mentioned as a prime example of this, IMO, Roxy Music. I went on about how great I thought they were at the beginning and how by "Avalon" they were bad, all in great detail. Then I asked for bands you thought suffered this same fate. Then I accidentally hit the "X" and lost it all.

This is the abridged version, and I apologize for the lackluster appearance.

Everyneurotic 08.07.2008 11:26 AM

most all bands.

atsonicpark 08.07.2008 11:26 AM

Almost every band gets worse, but lots get bad too. Sorry, can't think of any examples at the moment.

atsonicpark 08.07.2008 11:27 AM

Jinx.

radarmaker 08.07.2008 11:31 AM

Shit, just about every band that has ever been "good" ends up pissing their legacy away in the end.

Off the top of my head: The Modern Lovers, Television, Patti Smith Group, Stooges, Husker Du, Butthole Surfers, the Stones, the Clash, and many, many more. I'm sure a few people on here would say Sonic Youth.

A tougher question is to think of bands that started out being crap and then pulled themselves around into something fantastic - I guess MBV are an obvious choice there...

radarmaker 08.07.2008 11:31 AM

Heh. Way too late there ;)

atsonicpark 08.07.2008 11:32 AM

I think Husker Du is definitely the best example of a band who got really really bad at the end, in my opinion.

Destroyed 08.07.2008 11:42 AM

The Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd
New Order

deflinus 08.07.2008 11:53 AM

weezer

DeadDiscoDildo 08.07.2008 12:06 PM

God yeah. Fucking Pinkerton was such an amazing album.

Now listen to those fucking pricks.

The Clash is a great example too, they were near elevator music by the end..

EDIT: I'll add something new to the table rather than just agree.hmmm...

The Kinks.

Derek 08.07.2008 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarmaker
Shit, just about every band that has ever been "good" ends up pissing their legacy away in the end.

Off the top of my head: The Modern Lovers, Television, Patti Smith Group, Stooges, Husker Du, Butthole Surfers, the Stones, the Clash, and many, many more. I'm sure a few people on here would say Sonic Youth.

A tougher question is to think of bands that started out being crap and then pulled themselves around into something fantastic - I guess MBV are an obvious choice there...

Television?

Patti Smith still makes good records.

Sonic Youth 37 08.07.2008 12:24 PM

I'd agree with Television. Marquee Moon is nearly perfect and the only thing I really care about. Anything else is just meh.

What about a band that was good, then got bad, then got good again? Dinosaur Jr. The early stuff is great, then after Lou and Murph left they were bad (too much J), now the reunion stuff and new album is great.

uhler 08.07.2008 12:28 PM

aside from mbv first record i like their twee pop punk stuff more than their later stuff.

the damned

Rob Instigator 08.07.2008 12:39 PM

I love all Dinosaur jr releases wholeheartedly, except without a sound.

where you been, hand it over, green mind, all amazing amazing guitar albums. amazing. no shrinkage there baby!

"too much J?" are you fucking crazy?

I cannot get enough! that's like saying too much pussy, or too much high grade weed, or too much ROCK

"Oh this rocks too hard! it is too much rock for me!!!"

radarmaker 08.07.2008 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Television?

Patti Smith still makes good records.


Adventure is poor, but at least it's better than Verlaine's solo stuff I suppose...

And as much as I love her, Patti hasn't made a great album since Radio Ethiopia. Easter had it's moments, but Wave was dire. I've not really listened to any of the recent stuff in depth, but what I have heard didn't inspire me to persevere.

nowideau 08.07.2008 12:42 PM

Miles Davis - his last decade (1980s) is embarrassing.

R.E.M.

Sonic Youth 37 08.07.2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I love all Dinosaur jr releases wholeheartedly, except without a sound.

where you been, hand it over, green mind, all amazing amazing guitar albums. amazing. no shrinkage there baby!

"too much J?" are you fucking crazy?

I cannot get enough! that's like saying too much pussy, or too much high grade weed, or too much ROCK

"Oh this rocks too hard! it is too much rock for me!!!"


"Too much J", for me, is like a lack of Murph and Lou. I just don't like the stuff without them near as much as the stuff with. I like J Mascis and the Fog, though. And it's physically not possible to rock too hard.

Rob Instigator 08.07.2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic Youth 37
"Too much J", for me, is like a lack of Murph and Lou. I just don't like the stuff without them near as much as the stuff with. I like J Mascis and the Fog, though. And it's physically not possible to rock too hard.


that's cool for sure.

however, codplay fans will most ecrtainly tell you that, for their wuss rock flava, there is such a thing as rockin too much! play the UNSANE singles collection for them!
 

Danny Himself 08.07.2008 12:49 PM

 

"My name is Beck Hansen and I have no soul to sell anymore, nor any songs"


 

"Hello, my name is Chan Marshall, I used to write my own songs and enunciate properly, now I am terrible and I clearly suck off my keyboard player"


 

"Hey did you guys listen to Terror Twilight? Because we clearly didn't"


 

"Hey, too bad we all got weird haircuts and Machina happened"

acousticrock87 08.07.2008 02:20 PM

I think R.E.M. got better, to be honest. Yes, I said it.

Also, Chan Marshall is pretty hot in that picture, so I forgive her.

Danny Himself 08.07.2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrock87
I think R.E.M. got better, to be honest. Yes, I said it.

Also, Chan Marshall is pretty hot in that picture, so I forgive her.


Ah, no, I saw her on The Greatest tour and she was caked in make-up, it was horrible, having admired her on the cover of Moon Pix and whatnot. She's SO CASH now, it's gross.

HaydenAsche 08.07.2008 03:28 PM

Cat Power. Not that she got bad but she lost the incredibleness she once posessed. Same goes for Xiu Xiu. Women as Lovers is nowhere near A Promise or Knife Play.

Modest Mouse
Taking Back Sunday(Yeah. I said it. I dig Tell All Your Friends)
Hot Hot Heat

afterthefact 08.07.2008 03:35 PM

Good call on Modest Mouse. This could probably be said for a lot of "indie" bands; The Shins, Death Cab For Cutie, etc...

Rob Instigator 08.07.2008 03:58 PM

women as lovers is still very very good

this is a thread about bands that went from good to bad, not from good to slightly less good.

MellySingsDoom 08.07.2008 04:18 PM

Monster Magnet started out as an incredible band, but ever since they turned into the Dave Wyndorf Show, they bore me senseless.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.07.2008 04:21 PM

dEUS, since "Pocket Revolution"(next to last album).

demonrail666 08.07.2008 04:22 PM

Melly^^Agreed, and their new album is particularly awful.

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 08.07.2008 04:29 PM

the nuge!

✌➬ 08.07.2008 04:32 PM

The vines, but they weren't doing much anyways.

MellySingsDoom 08.07.2008 04:36 PM

I'm beginning to think that Electric Wizard are descending into crapness - their last album was very underwhelming, to say the least.

Hip Priest 08.07.2008 04:38 PM

The Mission's first LP had two strong songs on it, and their second had three strong songs on it (one of which was very strong). Then it all went wrong.

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 08.07.2008 04:39 PM

merzbow got shit after his 253rd release

Hip Priest 08.07.2008 04:40 PM

Ah yes, that famously difficult 254th LP. It happens to them all.

MellySingsDoom 08.07.2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crumb's Crunchy Delights
merzbow got shit after his 253rd release


Is that the one called "I'm Really Not Trying Now, You Know?" :D

✌➬ 08.07.2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crumb's Crunchy Delights
merzbow got shit after his 253rd release



I never got the praise for that. But then noise is not really my thing.

MellySingsDoom 08.07.2008 04:44 PM

Well, if Merzbow made an album based on recordings of your hotness, you'd soon be changing your mind, eh? ;)

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 08.07.2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Well, if Merzbow made an album based on recordings of your hotness, you'd soon be changing your mind, eh? ;)

are you flirting with me?

MellySingsDoom 08.07.2008 04:47 PM

Yes. No. Yes. Can I blow you a kiss?

✌➬ 08.07.2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Yes. No. Yes. Can I blow you a kiss?



Are you cheating on me?

MellySingsDoom 08.07.2008 04:50 PM

No. Yes. No. Can I give you a cuddle?


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