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deflinus 06.07.2008 09:57 AM

sy song on rolling stone's 100 greatest guitar songs
 
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/cov...947527/page/41

silver rocket made it onto rolling stone's 100 greatest guitar songs..
number 79!

which isnt saying a lot really cause it's rolling stone but i just thought people would like to know.

i think they could of picked a better song

Bal 06.07.2008 12:10 PM

bullet with butterfly wings is ranked higher than sy?
and even flow too?
(there are worse songs obviously but these two just hit me in the head)

i dont even know why i looked at it.. i shouldve known. its the rolling stones for fucks sake.

mil_pl 06.07.2008 04:14 PM

71. "Take It or Leave It" The Strokes (2001)
72. "Say It Ain't So" Weezer (1994)

lol. they are higher than sy...

batreleaser 06.07.2008 04:37 PM

the cover os horrble too. john fucking mayer?

atsonicpark 06.07.2008 06:18 PM

Sadly, John Mayer is still better than that Mars Volta idiot. I looked at this list, and it's not even the list itself which is bad (which, it is, but...)... the hilarious thing is the reasons behind the songs being included. "Say It Ain't So", for example, got chosen because it has that little feedback part in between the spaces in the 2nd and 3rd chorus.


No Polvo, John Fahey, THinking Fellers Union, Captain Beefheart, hell even Erase Errata? Also, pretty much no REAL metal whatsoever? What the fuck were they thinking?!

Danny Himself 06.07.2008 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
What the fuck were they thinking?!


It's Rolling Stone, they weren't.

fugazifan 06.08.2008 12:56 AM

they also picked silver rocket. good song but far from sy's best and far from their best guitar song.
it should have been expressway, hell even neil young said that its the best guitar song of all time

Death & the Maiden 06.08.2008 01:08 AM

I would've thought Teen Age Riot would be more appropriate for this list.

uhler 06.08.2008 01:25 AM

i think of 'cross the breeze when i think of a great sy guitar song.

lechaoscestmoi 06.08.2008 03:07 AM

Quote:

1. "Johnny B. Goode," Chuck Berry

2. "Purple Haze," The Jimi Hendrix Experience (1967)

3. "Crossroads" Cream (1968)

4. "You Really Got Me" The Kinks (1964)

...
what the hell, no "smoke on the water"?! :D

Green Magnesium 06.08.2008 04:47 AM

No Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac. That list officially counts for absolutely nothing.

Pookie 06.08.2008 05:05 AM

Once again Johnny B. Goode is praised for "that" intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwabxJdUkn4

This is the opening riff to Johnny B. Goode played by an orchestra, but it was originally played on guitar, but I can't find a version to demonstrate!

SuperCreep 06.08.2008 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Sadly, John Mayer is still better than that Mars Volta idiot. I looked at this list, and it's not even the list itself which is bad (which, it is, but...)... the hilarious thing is the reasons behind the songs being included. "Say It Ain't So", for example, got chosen because it has that little feedback part in between the spaces in the 2nd and 3rd chorus.


No Polvo, John Fahey, THinking Fellers Union, Captain Beefheart, hell even Erase Errata? Also, pretty much no REAL metal whatsoever? What the fuck were they thinking?!

FWIW, Zoot Horn Rollo is on their top 100 guitarists list. I found that pretty surprising.

But yeah, it's fucking Rolling Stone. Do you expect any better?

HECKLER SPRAY 06.08.2008 04:16 PM

10. "Smells Like Teen Spirit" Nirvana (1991)
Well, They had to put a Nirvana song, they put the best-known...

50. "Debaser" Pixies (1989)
75. "Willie the Pimp" Frank Zappa (1969)
93. "Only Shallow" My Bloody Valentine (1991)
?????????????????????????????????????????
Why did they choose these songs ?
I'm not sure they've listened to these bands already, they might have picked some songs randomly.

atsonicpark 06.08.2008 05:15 PM

I didn't realize Zoot Horn Rollo was ever listed in a Rolling Stone poll -- I do know that Jimi Hendrix or somebody like that said Zoot was his favorite guitar player at some point, which blows my mind. Also, at one Captain Beefheart gig, all 4 Beatles watched them. "Safe as Milk" was John Lennon's favorite album of all time. Crazy.

Anyway...

Silver Rocket isn't SY's best guitar song, but it has possibly the best guitar TONE..

Pax Americana 06.08.2008 09:07 PM

Rolling Stone publishes the fucking worst 'best of whatever' lists. Seriously, I hate that rag.

jetengine 06.10.2008 08:05 PM

Quote:

50. "Debaser" Pixies (1989)
75. "Willie the Pimp" Frank Zappa (1969)
93. "Only Shallow" My Bloody Valentine (1991)
?????????????????????????????????????????
Why did they choose these songs ?
I'm not sure they've listened to these bands already, they might have picked some songs randomly.

I'd definitely go with 'Willie The Pimp', or just about anything else off Zappa's Hot Rats album (1969). Great vocals from Beefheart and violin from Jean Luc Ponty on that number, too.

batreleaser 06.10.2008 08:43 PM

"the mars volta" idiot, despite being in the mars volta, omar is a good fuckin guitar player. his stuff with at the drive in was awesome, tremulant was way cool, and some of his solo stuff is really neat and trippy and very hard to play. he definitley had more fucking business being on there than john mayer.

atsonicpark 06.10.2008 09:42 PM

Yeah, Omar did play some stuff in ATDI that was alright but I thought Jim's guitar lines were just as good. The Mars Travolta.. I think he's written maybe one good riff. I've never bothered with his solo stuff. All in all, I think he's a decent player -- definitely worshiped by the wrong people.

Everyneurotic 06.10.2008 10:13 PM

omar is an ok guitar player.

most everything he does in the mars travolta is done on one string and with millions of effects going on.

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"seven nation army" i can imagine the explanation "jack white used some kind of witchcraft to make his guitar sound like a BASS guitar; how the fuck did he do that? AMAZING SCIENCE!!! jack white is a genius!!!"

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and while, thankfully, they did not include "smoke on the water", no deep purple is unexcusable. discarded for this.

touch me i'm sick 06.10.2008 11:04 PM

it seems like they picked the bands before the songs, and then chose the songs based on popularity. like they just pulled up itunes and looked at the song rankings.

viewtiful_alan 06.10.2008 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by touch me i'm sick
it seems like they picked the bands before the songs, and then chose the songs based on popularity. like they just pulled up itunes and looked at the song rankings.

Never thought about it like that, but yeah that sounds about right... nailed it

atsonicpark 06.10.2008 11:44 PM

I never understood the seven nation army thing. That riff sucks, and it's pretty easy to make your guitar sound somewhat like a bass.

barnaclelapse 06.11.2008 12:15 AM

Eh...it's cool they made the list at all...but I generally don't pay any serious consideration to anything RS lists off.

viewtiful_alan 06.11.2008 12:59 AM

Let's face it, the RS lists are always gonna be mainstream centric. And like barn said, we are lucky sonic are there at all.

fluxequalsrad 06.11.2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I never understood the seven nation army thing. That riff sucks, and it's pretty easy to make your guitar sound somewhat like a bass.


yeah alot of those older cheap guitars (i.e. Airline or whatever jack white has) have such low string tension that they already sound very plunky/bassy on the clean channel ... plus when you have a whammy pedal it's nothing. The riff is dece though, it's no 'Stars and Sons', but it'll do under the category of "Riffs I cant' believe have not been written yet"

atsonicpark 06.11.2008 07:18 AM

For some reason, that riff does sound really familiar to me, like it had been written before.

I wonder how many people write a decent riff and then find out years later that someone else wrote it as well? My friend played a riff one time and I said "that sounds almost identical to the riff in channel changer by Polvo..." and he listened to the song and -- besides their alternate tunings -- it was identical. Weird.

Everyneurotic 06.11.2008 10:38 AM

i'm pretty sure there's a gang of four riff that it's "seven nation crapper".


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