Barack Obama is white
 

I get so fed up hearing endless bullshit about race in this presidential run
I am sick of it

if Barack Obama is HALF black, and HALF white, then it mkaes just as much sense (menaing NONE) to call him a white candidate as it does to call him a black candidate.

race is a fucking smokescreen. it does not exist. There is one race, the human race. any other ideas we have about "race" are holdovers from an 18th century worldview held by rich white europeans, whne they decided to clasify all living creature in order from lowliest and most base to the highest and most pure (closer to god) and of course, white folk were placed as the high rung on this ladder of bullshit.

I hate it, and there is nothing I can do about it. It sickens me to hear people so obsessed with labling a human being as black or white.

in the USA, if you have even one tiny bit of african blood in you you have historically been classified as black, as if 3% of black blood taints the otherwise supa-white 97% of yr blood. whatever. it is such a fucking joke.



Go Obama!

usually it is blacks who do all the claiming, from what i have seen... well, i know they wanted Tiger and Halle... so they went and got em. that's lobbying for ya

There may only be one race, but there are all kinds of different cultures. It will always be an issue because we are different. We all come from different backgrounds and we have our little prejudices based on skin color, creed, and ethnic background. We ALL do and anyone who says differently is lying.

Obama is a good candidate. He has my vote. Unless I find out he's extra-terrestrial. Then that filthy alien can go back from wherever the hell he's from.

tiger woods is Thai!

cultures and backgrounds are quanitfiable and understandable and have abasis in reality. The standard model of "Race" (Caucasiod, Negroid, etc.)has no such basis, no matter how long and how varied the search for racial differences has been.

He's definitely about as white as a Black man can get, I agree. He's also a paper tiger. I hate to say it, especially as I'll most likely vote for him, but he's a lot of talk and not much substance.

Sorry, !@#$%, I'm not saying he's not a good man. But after being reminded of true greatness when I watched Bobby the other night, I'm very apathetic about this election.

smokescreen indeed, Obama is going to be the next token black president of America, to catch the black vote, the colored vote, the liberal vote, the leftist vote, the Panther vote, the young vote, etc etc etc.

everyone thinks that because Obama is black, and because black folks are obviously disenfranchised in this shitstem, that he is somehow free from the realpolitik corruption of the US, bullshit! It is like Kerry all over again, only the race card makes Obama the candidate you cant diss, cuz its a race thing. I-man support black nationalism, but Marcus Garvey spoke as a prophet, there will never be a black president of the United States, and Obama proves it, after all, Garvery meant a "full" black [ie the child of a black man and black woman] president.. the US has only accepted mixed black folks in the mainstream since slavery, darker skin is perceived of as threatening by the masses, alas alas.

"catch them Garvey catch them, hold them Marcus hold them"

Right on Rob! You hit the target dead on.

You seen this guy James A Johnson obama has tasked with choosing the VP: among others he's a member of the American Friends of Bilderberg, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Trilateral Commission. Also hearing some weird shit about his halfbrother who is a Kenyan musliim murderous jihadist.

we are fucked.

A major difference is that Obama can make a speech and is charismatic. Kerry was a downer every time you heard him. He wouldn't even defend himself.

Charismatic? About as much as a high school principal or the CEO of a software business. Sorry, no, he's not.

Robert Kennedy was charismatic. That's the last time we saw true charisma in politics.

Comparing any politician to Robert Kennedy is unfair. That man was exceptional.

He's definitely charismatic. He has inspired a lot of people. He has raised a lot of money. His speech the other night was energetic and riveting even if it was pie-in-the-sky.

It bothers me that people would think this is an unfair comparison. The fact that nobody even comes close to measuring up to RFK, and hasn't since 1968, is a sad comment.

dude, though, anything different than Bush and his cheney=cronies is gonna sound like pie in the sky!

if people tell you it does not matter who is president ask them what this country would have been like had Preznit Dubya not been in the white house these last 8 years.

more than likely, we would have toppeld the Taliban in afghanistan, helped that country rebuild, NOT go into Iraq, and use hussein;s stupidity as leverage with Iran and all those other countries, to side with us.

fuck charisma. it is a pointles attriibute ina president, only usable to lie and delude your constituents.
bill bubba clinton had charisma, more so than any kennedy.
did not mean shit, when he could not control his proclivities.

What did controlling his proclivities have to do with his politics though?

Clinton was not only a little charismatic (but hardly as much as the Kennedys!) but he could also deal effectively and diplomatically with other leaders.

Yah, so he got his cigar smoked. What has that got to do with anything.

THAT is the very definition of PROCLIVITIES!!!!

sheeeit man.

if he ahd kept his pecker under control his enemies would have had NOTHING to get at him at, dig?
and to say he was less charismatic than RFK is simply delusional.
the whole poitnt being that we now choose our presidents base on charimsa dn how good they look on TV. that shit is bullshit andd meaningless when you cannot stand up in front of foeign leaders and fellow VIP's and be intelligent (as with Dubya)

Sorry, I think my definition of charisma is a little different from yours. I'm not talking about magazine handsomeness or that kind of thing.

I am talking about the ability to make the person you are talking to feel like the most important person in the room
that is something RFK and Bill Clinton both share.
They are both emminently likable. I have yet to read any of clinton's "enemies" who said that they could not help BUT like him once they met him face to face, whatever their political disagreements. That is charisma.

in the south in souther politics, it is called STARSHINE

and clinton has it in spades.

Okay I agree with you there. I've got an uncle like that actually. He's never self-conscious and always makes you feel like you're more important than he is, just by focusing his attention on you.

In any case, I'm so disappointed with U.S. politics I could cry, if I cared enough.

withdrawing in disgust is not the same as apathy

it would have been the same shit. It is nonsense to believe that temporarily elected and appointed individuals are allowed to yield such extreme power and authority, especially considering that this shitstem supports absolute dictatorships elsewhere [ie, they probably do the same shit here under the facade of the electoral process, not college], and yield it towards some kind of personal agenda. In other more concise words:

Same shit, different toilet.

I think you misunderstood, people had blindfaith in Kerry even though the Democratic Party in America is as fucking brutal and heartless as the PRI or Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front...My point in connecting Obama with Kerry was to say that people are supporting Obama without even hearing a platform, they just say "anything is better then bush" and that is fine. It is not that elections are true and that votes count, it is that the people suppor and believe in Obama and if he becomes president they will say "how high?" when him say, "jump [towards hell and the unseen]"

Obama is a puppet, Mussolini had charisma to the Italians and much of Europe for that matter...

no way man. the main reasons we went into Iraq was that Bush wanted to get glory, greater than his father, and exert control for his oil cronies (the saudi royal family/halliburton, etc) over the Iraqui oil reserves.

Obama and McCain are just the figureheads of two branches of one huge corporation that's going to conduct business as usual as its been doing for over a century. If you vote McCain, you're voting for the same elder, white politcian you got in Bush SR. and Reagen. If you vote Obama you get the same young, idealistic, handsome guy you got in Kennedy. Which are you tired of more? that is the only true question.

half true. while Bush II was directly involved in the Bush I administration, and in fact much of the Bush I adminstration was a part of the Bush II 00-04 administration, there is much more to this story.

The US went to war with Iraq the first time because it was a massive military power, the only real threat to the Western plan for the Middle East [the New World Order, I wish is was not a quote but I could not even make that shit up if I wanted to, we all heard em say it]. They have returned to secure the positition and prepare to go heads up with the remaining threat to this plan [ie, Iran], and establish control of the region for Zionism [american christians are more devout zionists then ultra orthodox rabbis]. They took Afghanistan like Vietnam, for the drugs cuz that is where the CIA makes all its money [upwards of 60% of the worlds heroin in the 1940s-1970s was distributed out of the Mekong River system..

my point is, how did Iraq become so powerful in the late 1980s? The answer is the United States anti-Iranian cold war policies. So clearly there is a deeper connection to the US position in Iraq then just "Bush II wanted to memorialize Bush I"...


and for the record, Obama is clearly a part of this shit, because he is NO PEACE CANDIDATE, when he says no war in Iraq, but lets focus on our REAL enemies [ie, Iran]....

I forgot the heroin trade, which ahs increased three fold since the days of the taliban cutting peope's hands off for smuggling heroin. the US loves to keep it's cocaine and heroin in a steady supply

"Within the next generation, I believe that the world's rulers will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis [ie, sleeping with the TV on] are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, AND THT THE LUST FOR POWER CANBE JUST AS COMPLETELY SATISFIED BY SUGGESTING PEOPLE INTO LOVING THEIR SERVITUDE AS BY FLOGGING AND KICKING THEM INTO OBEDIENCE."
Aldous Huxley, Oct 21, 1949.

heroin used to be in Vietnam until America showed up, now its in Afghanistan, and where is America now?

cocaine used to be produced in Peru and Bolivia until America showed up, now its in Columbia, where is America now?

the Black-white thing reminds me the debate I had on the Emo-corner board about "Black Emo people" with a cunt. She didn't understand that in my country, most of people don't use the word "race" to speak about human being. And most of people who use it are called racists.
And most of the emo kids were agree with her. That's quite disturbing for a french guy like me to see as much people using this word to speak about other people whose principal difference is their color skin.
Emo-kids are dumb....

in Puerto Rico, there are the full spectrum from whitey white to dark as night to everything in between and all are considered Puerto Rican first.

In the USA, everthing still is "colored" by one's skin pigment, in a very real and pervasive way.

The revolution will not be televised.

It will be on the net then ?

the revolution will not be podcast

The revolution is never what you expect it to be and frequently becomes something you didn't want.

YES.

and we all come from africa anyway!

Fuck what race anyone is, we're all people. Some people make such a big fuckin deal about the colour of your skin, and these are the people that will vote for John McCain when the election rolls around.

We still talking race?

yes, indio. :D

i have never met anyone mixed who refers to themselves as white even though they are indeed half-white.

latin americans do it all the time

money "whitens" in peru, bolivia, ecuador, etc.

i believe is similar in arab cuntrys.

apparently sadat was furious that a biopic on him he was portrayed by a negro.

this is of course all balls but it comes from social conditioning & the idiots that carry it forward through generations.

troof