youth and music of today
 

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skinnier/shittier

I like a lot of modern stuff far more than a kit if old stuff. Gotta move forward!

Yes, but there's also exponentially more shitty music these days.

There were loads of shitty stuff when I were a lad too though.

uhhh seriously.

i graduated from high school in 1989. need i say more?

what era are these musicians who have said this from?

I think that is inevitable with the advance of technology and the increasing ease of recording at home. The ease of recording at home has allowed for lots of shit, but it also allows lots of great smaller bands to be able to record, without having to go to a studio/get a good contract/etc, and also without a clock ticking, they can tinker with their sound in the "studio" far more than before.

well if i listen to music today from 40 years ago... i'm just listening to rock and roll. if in the 60s he's listening to music from 40 years ago... it's probably not rock and roll.

Crappier, but at the same time there a few bands that still excite me. Like Be Your Own Pet.

tooth

Stop hijacking threads.

Neither/ nor.

tithead.

And when you tell kids that these days, do they believe you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

Good game.

I can't really comment on whatever the kids are listening to today, because I'm far too old, but I would suspect that the ones listening to Nirvana are just as much in the minority as the ones listening to The Beatles were in the '80s.

Most kids I know like Nirvana, but don't know who kurt cobain is.

Why is it relevant if I listen to music from the past or the present?

With people 40 years ago the cutting edge was mainstream- the Beatles, the Kinks, and the Rolling Stones. (The VU and the Stooges were also very cutting edge, but let's ignore that)

Today none of the most successful mainstream bands are cutting edge. The mainstream is all shit now.

And the alternative scenes aren't, and they used to be. There are just these cultures built off of old cultures that were on the frontier of music but no longer are.

Also there is a longer history of Rock and Roll, more stuff to look back to. Bands that had a small local following find new audiences.

I just find music I love, and I listen to it and enjoy it. I don't worry about how contemporary it is or how dated it is. That's totally pretentious.

People seem to listen to new music to be hip. I see lists of 50-100 best albums to come out in 2007. How can you listen to 50 albums and fall in love with all of them in 2007? That's insane. Especially when there are old albums you haven't heard still.

I can't think of any year in music with 50-100 great albums.

I'm sure you're in the minority of chaps your age in terms of your listening habits. I expect that's probably true (in a general sense) of everyone on this board, from the wee bairns to those older than yourself.

Personally, I've spent about 2 years listening to oodles of 40s & 50s pop/ jazz and much more 100+ years old classical. It doesn't really make much odds to me how old stuff is, but I'd definitely express a preference for music with a bit of dust on it. This isn't so much a nostalgia as it is a preference for 'good' over 'new'. I wouldn't argue, ever, that the Beatles or the Stones are the pinnacle of anything (except maybe 'music by the Beatles or the Rolling Stones', in which case I can't think of anyone who did it better) but perhaps the interest in such is a mis-laid interest in the timelessly brilliant?

Ultimately, it's all horseshit. Music is something to listen to, something to enjoy. Where and when it comes from is of less importance than whether it's good.

I've met kids that listen to top 40 bands but honestly don't care enough about music to look past that. Which is fine, I myself was not always interested in music and I'm surely not as obsessed with it as some out there. But I also know kids that are into music that listen to great music like Lightning Bolt, Boredoms, Battles and other bands that I am agreeable with.

It's myspace, however, and the commodification of music into pure fashion that I have a problem with. Undoubtedly music has been popularly tied to fashion since early days of rock such as Mods, etc. but I see bands becoming names on an iPod just to match an outfit or namedrops on a profile page. This leads to aesthetic-centric bands like The Medic Droid which have only a handful of songs recorded but a massive myspace following.

90's>80's>60's>70's>Classical Music>Baroque Music> Shitty Pop Music> Today's music

Tonight a girl was buying me drinks- she wore a Velvet Underground t-shirt and assured me (and proved) she knew who they were and listened to their songs, and when we got into talking I discovered she was into Sonic Youth and X-Ray Spex!

So all hope is not lost with youth today..

..and I'm a slut. :/

Sweeet. British Chicks rule.
Thought you were 16?

I am, but the bar in question is lax on stuff like that.

I'm moving to the UK then.

We need something in music that will suddenly kick everyone's ass. But finding that thing will be verrrrry difficult.

Yeah, I think all genres have been explored. And other crossings of genres would just be lame or already invented. Like Ambient Rap or Death Techno, respectively.

That's sort of a defeatist attitude.

Everything's been done?

Well, with new technology, practically any sound can be made from scratch. The electric guitar "made" rock music and synths "made" electronic music, I just can't think of where music can go from here now that we can acheive practically any sound with digital signal processing.

mods didn't start liking rock until about the mid 60's. before that the older mods mostly listened to american r&b, soul, ska, and jazz. anything that you could dance to back then.

i really don't know what's going on in current music. i listened to about 15 new records last year and almost all of them were bands that i already liked. i do know kids of today really like bad hip hop and in my town they smoke meth while listening to korn.

i think its silly to say everything has been done

everything has been done untill something new comes along

everything has been done was probably said all the time untill a new genre came along

Hey, whatever happened to Youth of Tomorrow?

that was yesterday

You can make any sound, but there are still infinite ways of using those sounds. Relevant pieces are still made with old instruments.

theres always bad music and always good music, for sure

young uns listen to some bad music and some good music

older people listen to some bad music and some good music

so sayeth the lord of the dance

music can be bad and music can be good! listen to music!

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20 years ago the cool kids liked sonic youth
10 years ago the cool kids liked sonic youth
today the cool kids like sonic youth.

nothin' wrong with that.

i'd say compared to 30 years ago-much better, why? because music and its genres got a whole lot bigger since 30 years ago and kids can find out music easier and theres a lot to choose from. I think that i can say that as well for 20 years ago.

i'd say that the musical youth which listened to good music 10 years ago was about the same as nowdays only nowdays we've got the shitty emo gayrock prettyboy poser scene plus the awesomly fucking good muzak from ten years ago.

the biggest thing that annoys me with the musical youth of today is that most of them listen to music and label themselves as 'musicians' just because they want to feel special or have a good image.


kids dont give a shit about music these days.


(there are exceptions, of course)