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Mildred Pierce 05.15.2006 07:54 PM

Neu! the band that inspired SY
 
Neu! is a krautrock band from Germany and is the band that inspired Sonic Youth. Try to download it!!!!!
It is a 70's band! If you listen to this you think it is SY because there are not much vocals in Neu!. Hopefully you find it somewhere on the net, it is worth searching!:)

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 05.15.2006 07:55 PM

i thought neu! was some solo guy...

Mildred Pierce 05.15.2006 07:58 PM

No it are 2 members, though they use a lot of guest musicians and studio musicians ( chop players)

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 05.15.2006 07:59 PM

Oh.
You should check out Glenn Branca, for sure!

Everyneurotic 05.15.2006 08:00 PM

are they new? i have never heard of them!!!

maybe they have something to do with this band that wanted me to add them to myspace the other day, they have the stupidiest name, they are called CAN. they said they formed like three months ago after going to see fall out boy live. all i remember about them is that their singer is called damo suzuki.

weirdoes.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 05.15.2006 08:03 PM

Can? hahaha
bunch of lame asses..

Mildred Pierce 05.15.2006 08:03 PM

Glenn Branca I allready know, he played with members of SY, huh? And John Cage I know as well....

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 05.15.2006 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mildred Pierce
Glenn Branca I allready know, he played with members of SY, huh? And John Cage I know as well....


yeah.
Id say hes the biggest influence they have.

Everyneurotic 05.15.2006 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mildred Pierce
Glenn Branca I allready know, he played with members of SY, huh?...


more like the other way around.

Mildred Pierce 05.15.2006 08:08 PM

You mean John Cage is the biggest influence, btw wich books can you get in the US of SY?

Everyneurotic 05.15.2006 08:12 PM

no, see...

...thurston, lee and original drummer richard edson played on some of branca's symphonies. i meant that, not like branca jammed with lee once and that's the connection. plus, branca was a rising composer when everybody in ny thought sonic youth were fad band.

also, sonic youth released their first two releases, s/t ep and confusion is sex, on glenn branca's label, neutral records.

Mildred Pierce 05.15.2006 08:19 PM

Ok, thanx for the little info, I knew allready that Lee was in his guitar army, if I am right Glenn had a lot of guitar players in his band or should I say orchestra...

Mildred Pierce 05.15.2006 08:30 PM

offcourse the Whitey album!!!!

finding nobody 05.15.2006 08:44 PM

ege bamyasi by can was on thurston's top 13 favorite cds. i downloaded the album. it's interesting.

nomadicfollower 05.15.2006 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finding nobody
ege bamyasi by can was on thurston's top 13 favorite cds. i downloaded the album. it's interesting.




Really? That's probably my favorite Can (or is it CAN?) album. I love Soup (the song).
I miss Mooney's vocals though. I really liked his work on Monster Movie.

By the way, where can I find a list of Thurston's favorite albums?

Alex's Trip 05.15.2006 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
I love Soup (the song).

Haha! Thanks for clarifying :p

finding nobody 05.15.2006 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
Really? That's probably my favorite Can (or is it CAN?) album. I love Soup (the song).
I miss Mooney's vocals though. I really liked his work on Monster Movie.

By the way, where can I find a list of Thurston's favorite albums?

there was a thread called "sonic youth influences" it died fast, you could try searching for it. because it was in there

HaydenAsche 05.15.2006 10:06 PM

Neu! isn't that much like SY.

soniknirve 05.16.2006 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegmama
Thurston's Throbbing 13:

Funhouse - Stooges
White Light / White Heat -
Velvet Underground
Marquee Moon -
Television
Blank Generation -
Richard Hell & the Voidoids
Ramones -
Ramones
Radio Ethiopia -
Patti Smith
Damaged -
Black Flag
Bug -
Dinosaur Jr
It Takes A Nation Of Millions
To Hold Us Back -
Public Enemy
Impressions -
John Coltrane
Ege Bamyasi -
CAN
Bleach -
Nirvana
Killer -
Alice Cooper


http://www.spikemagazine.com/0600thurstonmoore.php


awesome list. kurt cobain also listed that public enemy as one of his faves. is it really good? coltrane is always great...

sonic sphere 05.16.2006 06:15 AM

yeah it is great. to get back to neu i have neu 2 and it's pretty cool

FruitLoop 05.16.2006 07:49 AM

I've got Hallogallo (spelling?) and Can's Tago Mago. Despite repeated listenings, I've never managed to get into these albums as much as I've wanted to..... But they're great as background music while doing laundry or the dishes. The same goes to Branca's symphonies, it's not the kind of thing I'd listen to through headphones for very long.

gmku 05.16.2006 10:48 AM

I've never seen Neu! cited as a band that informed or influenced Sonic Youth. Which is not to say it couldn't be true, it's just that I've never read or heard that anywhere.

That said, the first Neu! album is awesome. But it's not much like SY at all, at any point in SY's career. It's great krautrock, and it was extremely "out there" experimental when the first LP was released in 1971. Way ahead of its time.

I have the recent reissue on white vinyl. Although it's nothing like SY, I'd still call it an essential album for anyone who likes rock music, alternative rock, or just music in general. It's good stuff.

scott v 05.16.2006 03:18 PM

i agree w/ gmku, neu! may have had a slight influence on SY but they aren't the only or the most prominent influence on the group at that time (near the end of the no-wave era). neu! were good and very interesting band i think they were more interesting than Can though but hardly that out there as compared to the other krautrock bands during that time like Brainticket, Guru Guru, Amon Duul II, Organisation (pre-Kraftwerk), or Ashra Tempel... etc etc.

I think Harmonia (which feat. some Neu members w/ Cluster) is more "experimental" than Neu!

btw, i always felt Neu! should've steered away from those awful vocals they had on their last album '75...

finding nobody 05.16.2006 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soniknirve
awesome list. kurt cobain also listed that public enemy as one of his faves. is it really good? coltrane is always great...

yes! that public enemy cd is about as good as rap gets!

bytheriver 05.16.2006 03:48 PM

I cant really here Neu in Sonic Youth, Neu are too precise and mechanical. Stereolab and Electrelane sound like they've been listening to Neu, but not really SY.

Saying that ive only heard the first Neu album.

bytheriver 05.16.2006 03:49 PM

Oh wait maybe its the last album I heard cause it had bad vocals on it.

Mildred Pierce 05.16.2006 06:28 PM

[quote=Kegmama]Thurston's Throbbing 13:

Funhouse - Stooges
White Light / White Heat -
Velvet Underground
Marquee Moon -
Television
Blank Generation -
Richard Hell & the Voidoids
Ramones -
Ramones
Radio Ethiopia -
Patti Smith
Damaged -
Black Flag
Bug -
Dinosaur Jr
It Takes A Nation Of Millions
To Hold Us Back -
Public Enemy
Impressions -
John Coltrane
Ege Bamyasi -
CAN
Bleach -
Nirvana
Killer -
Alice Cooper



Nice list of Thurston, and interesting to see Public Enemy in the line up

soniknirve 05.16.2006 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturnine
public enemy is excellent.


i guess i'll have to pick this up one of these days...

Mildred Pierce 05.16.2006 06:40 PM

Me too.... I never listen to anything else then Rock and psychadelic music and Bluegrass and Hank Williams and Beck and some singer songwriters and whatever if there is a guitar involved. So I go check em out soon

PAULYBEE2656 07.08.2006 08:21 AM

neu1 are incredible. their 3 albums are utterly havetohavable! they are stereolab 30 years before stereolab started........

Lurker 07.08.2006 10:51 AM

Mildred Pierce, did you know that the song Mildred Pierce got it's a name from the film of the same name? People might think your band are referencing, in their name, the film.

Trasher02 07.08.2006 10:54 AM

Neu! is a great band...
I need some more material of it though I only have one downloaded song..

Savage Clone 07.08.2006 10:57 AM

Neu! and Sonic Youth bear very few similarities to my ears.
Stereolab, on the other hand, sound EXACTLY like Neu! Exactly. Well, with a little of Faust IV thrown in.

against_the_grain 07.08.2006 11:03 AM

I hear some Robert Fripp of King Crimson influence in SY. I'm not sure if Thurston and gang would agree....but I hear stuff. Fripp can certainly crank the noise...with interesting as hell note selection, then go to simplistic beauty instantly.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Savage Clone 07.08.2006 11:10 AM

Yeah, but Fripp is an uber-disciplined tightass who sits on a stool in performance.

against_the_grain 07.08.2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Yeah, but Fripp is an uber-disciplined tightass who sits on a stool in performance.


Damn...that's right.

Scratch Fripp :rolleyes:

Stodgy fuck !!!!

kingcoffee 07.08.2006 08:04 PM

Neu! aren't that bad. Some of their stuff sounds pretty good. But it all sounds kind of the same. I like Hallogallo and Negatvland the best. Those are my two favorite Neu! songs. And I can see the influence they had on SY a bit, the drvivng rhythms and such, but I have to say that The Stooges and Velvet Underground were a stronger influence on SY's sound as well as Glenn Branca.


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