The New World Order
 

It's interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVMpo
Definately the best one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQffhpms-1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQlOpiw8tM4

1984 is coming. George Orwell just predicted a little early.

i have seen it's coming for a good 15 or so years now that I have been actively paying attention and it scares me. the time for revolution is now

Good.

I could have sworn that was Lee.

everyone who believes this is a stoner. seriously the only people who ever tell me about this are well-known potheads

Agreed, these nutjobs always make me laugh.

have you ever considered ignoring the propaganda and thinking maybe the stoners are on to something? all the stuff about religion and christianity is spot on

Well religion will always try and do something. But this is not.

Conspiracy theories are just like religions. The only difference is that all the Gods are malevolant.

Yes the world is a bunch of shit, but the guiding force is chaos and human nature in a sort of socio-economic-corporate-political darwinism. The people with the money and power are naturally on the top of the food chain, and they make day to day decisions to give themselves more money and power. If GWB and co started investing money into apple, google, and all the like, I wouldn't see it as "giving more power to mass media, the opiate of the masses" so much as "rich fucks looking to ride a growing industry and become richer fucks."

The revolution, as it stands, isn't against some group of clockmakers, but against ourselves.

America has been governed by fear for a long time now, and also has tried to govern the whole world by force. It is easy for anyone out side of the USA to look at how screwed up the country is because it is on the news all the time. Travelling also shows this. Both in Berlin and Paris, the only national embassies guarded by heavily armed soldiers was the American ones. Alot, and by alot I mean millions and millions, probably billions of people world wide do not like what the USA government has done to the world.

On the education front: australian public schools have been run by the government for decades and decades and if you go by that little bit of agi-prop those lists put australia high up on the international scale, but that then leaves us with a conundrum.... smart nation / government schools.....

and hayden i think you might have misunderstood 1984 when you read it, orwell wasn't writing about a time in the future, he was writing about what he was living through. propaganda really came to the fore in WWII and is here to stay.

these doco's are no different to how the mass media operates, in fact it is using a mass media transmission and the same sort of fear tactics that the governments have been using for a long time, the only difference is it says think for yourself.

spend less time on you tube and more time reading about the political doctrines of governments and ideologues from credible sources.

and if you aren't from america and you are going to travel make sure you label your bags with the flag of your nation or wear a little pin or something, people will treat you better.....

People usually don't assume I'm American by looking at me.

the only americans i ever seem to come across when i travel are big fat tourists that don't even try and speak the language of the country they are in. at hotels in both france and germany my partner and i were asked if we were american, obviously we replied no because we are not and the clerks responses were and I quote "das gute das gute" and in france "bonne".

i fully agree

NWO for LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! where's goldberg?

The attempted manipulation of Americans through fear is nothing new but technology is making it a real possibility. The chip is interesting, I've always maintained that the elimination of cash would be the beginning of the end and a chip with all your financial data would suit that purpose. Cash = Freedom.

This documentary is horseshit, for various reasons. I'm surprised that the conspiracy theorists have got to you Hayden. Now I'm the only person who knows the real truth [Americans - please, please note the irony here. I know you people aren't terrifically sharp, so I've pointed it out for your benefit]

he been smokin weed

I don't really believe in the majority of this shit. It's just interesting. Yes. I been smoking weed.

they always think they are on to something... just imagine for a second if stoners ran the newspapers/media of the world ...

It would be funny for the first day or two, but it would get old really fast. Just like talking to a stoner.

bingo

And how is this revolution to take place?

Just as Lincoln advised, this is We the People's government and we can change our government constitutionally through accepted legal means; Force should only be used as a last resort.

In other words, the only way to have a revolution without martial law quickly squashing it is to do it through starting a political movement.

Campaign finance reform and electoral college reform can wait.
At some point we also need to shorten terms of office.
And the appointment of any governmental officials that aren't decided upon by the general public in democratic elections should eventually be prohibited.

But first things first.
The focus of any serious revolutionary movement should be a basic and single-minded one that urges and provides for a constitutional amendment to end all repeat terms of political office. Once someone has served once, then their time is up. They can run for another office, but not that same one. In ideality, there should no be such a thing as a career politician. The current notion of the status quo that people should be allowed repeat terms feeds political corruption, and is, in essence, antithetical to the concept of participatory democracy and any semblance to a truly representational government.

ha! that is exactly what I have been saying! all these conspiracy theories are pointing out something very real. the thing that gets muddled is what is the true mtivation behind these shadow governments. I say it is and always has been about MONEY, not aliens, not illuminati, not skull and bones. It is purely about money and the power that comes with it.

there is nothing fanciful about that. the world's history has shown countless tim4es that the struggle is between the masses of people and the few that have gathered all the money to them, from kings, to popes, to now international billionaire bankers.

it is the same thing. but war feeds this. wars make money to banks. every 4 months presisdent Dubya asks the congress to aporrve another spending bill for the "war on terror" (running in the high BILLIONS now) . that money does not come from the USA, it comes LOANED AT INTEREST from the federal reserve, a private bank that is not in the service of the USA government, nor overseemn by the US govt, nor is it in any way controlled by the government. this makes a few people ridiculosuly wealthy while leaving the bions of dollars in debt to the masses of regular americans to pay off for the next 40 years.