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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.14.2007 01:21 PM

overrated movies
 
Raging Bull

Tokolosh 08.14.2007 01:28 PM

Ha! You wish! :D

One of Scorsese's best.

Tokolosh 08.14.2007 01:31 PM

Citizen Kane for supposedly being the best movie ever made.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 08.14.2007 01:37 PM

the godfather.

demonrail666 08.14.2007 01:39 PM

Shawshank Redemption. I want back the two hours that I wasted watching that piece of crap.

Anything and everything made by Stanley Kubrick.

jon boy 08.14.2007 01:52 PM

i will go with citizen kane for sure and dirty dancing which i think should be erased from the minds of everyone via a large electric shock.

!@#$%! 08.14.2007 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
Citizen Kane for supposedly being the best movie ever made.


it was! up to that point anyway. look at movies before 1941. citizen kane is great in many ways. [edit: this will save me the explanation]

of course by orwell i prefer a touch of evil and the trial-- the trial! wow that is a fucking great movie.

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overrated: i second the shawshank redemption. it's listed as #2 movie ever on imdb-- by what pack of donkeys may i ask?

add all the lord of the ring turds. big expensive production for sure, but a stupid story, except for when the trees kick ass. still it doesn't make 3 longass movies worth the price of admission. and fuck frodo & his stupid friends.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.14.2007 02:26 PM

Most David Lynch films. Most.

jon boy 08.14.2007 02:26 PM

i never really liked bladerunner and god knows why anyone likes black hawk down!

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.14.2007 02:28 PM

I'll second Bladerunner.

Little Miss Sunshine gets a lot hype too, but it just doesn't cut it for me.

!@#$%! 08.14.2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест
I'll second Bladerunner.

Little Miss Sunshine gets a lot hype too, but it just doesn't cut it for me.


which cut? the original cut, the directors cut, the revised cut, the new cut, or the superultrafinished cut? god damn what a pain in the ass mess. i did like the directors cut, beats the original by miles, removes the voiceover, etc. another movie that perhaps suffers when seen out of it historical context since cyberpunk exploded after that. william gibson went to see when it was out and had to walk out because he felt it was too close to what he was doing and he didn't want to be influenced.

about little miss sunshine, it's ok, not bad... who's hyping it? i suspect the blockbuster crowd who saw something like this for the first time EVARRRR.

Пятхъдесят Шест 08.14.2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
which cut? the original cut, the directors cut, the revised cut, the new cut, or the superultrafinished cut? god damn what a pain in the ass mess. i did like the directors cut, beats the original by miles, removes the voiceover, etc. another movie that perhaps suffers when seen out of it historical context since cyberpunk exploded after that. william gibson went to see when it was out and had to walk out because he felt it was too close to what he was doing and he didn't want to be influenced.

about little miss sunshine, it's ok, not bad... who's hyping it? i suspect the blockbuster crowd who saw something like this for the first time EVARRRR.


Er. Either cut? It just simply wasn't something I was all that enthralled in. I couldn't tell you which cut I saw. Maybe it was the version, and not the movie itself. Which would you recommend?

Little Miss Sunshine was hyped in general. Whether from Hollywood press, or indie slags.

atsonicpark 08.14.2007 02:42 PM

Donnie Darko
Requiem for a Dream
Scanner Darkly
All Lord of the Rings
All Shrek
All Pirates of the Caribbean
All Matrix
etc.

all suck and are therefore overrated..

pretty much any film that's come out since the 00's that has had any acclaim.

and no there are no bad scorsesce films, his films are underrated if anything, raging bull rules my balls.

nomowish 08.14.2007 03:14 PM

Red by Kieslowski.

I actually enjoyed it, but I have no interest in seeing it again. Blue, on the other hand, is a keeper.

The Double Life of Veronique I have to revisit.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Donnie Darko
Requiem for a Dream
Scanner Darkly
All Lord of the Rings
All Shrek
All Pirates of the Caribbean
All Matrix
etc.

all suck and are therefore overrated..

pretty much any film that's come out since the 00's that has had any acclaim.

and no there are no bad scorsesce films, his films are underrated if anything, raging bull rules my balls.

requiem for a dream is a fucking worthless, inaccurate piece of shit film. if you can even call it a film. jared leto can kiss my proverbial ass.

Rob Instigator 08.14.2007 03:33 PM

shawshank is a genius film, made from a genius short story by stephen king. if you don't like it then you don't like it, but that takes away NOTHING from the quality of said film.


I nominate each and every single DAVID LYNCH cinematic jerk-off fest for overrated. HIGHLY overrated.

Savage Clone 08.14.2007 03:34 PM

genius short story by stephen king

This phrase is just so hard to wrap one's head around...

Rob Instigator 08.14.2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
genius short story by stephen king

This phrase is just so hard to wrap one's head around...


gots to be read. stephen king has quite a few genius short stories.
his novels however, are another tale altogether.

Everyneurotic 08.14.2007 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
the godfather.


aye.
word.
etc.

kids too.

sawshank redemption is, in my opinion, not a bad film but certainly not one of the best ever; i didn't know it was praised so highly.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 03:39 PM

a clockwork orange isn't as great as you'd be led to believe. it gets kind of difficult to pay attention to once they start reforming him.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.14.2007 03:42 PM

I think Scorsese makes films with a vocabulary that really doesn't appeal very much to me. I'll watch a Scorsese movie and say "the acting was good, the plot was good, the cinematography was good, but I didn't really feel anything or feel like I got anything out of it." Gangs of New York and Raging Bull both were like that for me. I liked the new one in that I did care about the characters and it was suspenseful, but I still felt pretty unaffected by it.

jon boy 08.14.2007 03:42 PM

i liked reqiuem for a dream and i like david lynch movies. i dont however like shrek and thought the ring was very very overated.

Pookie 08.14.2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Anything and everything made by Stanley Kubrick.

Indeedy.
And I'll add Scarface (the Al Pacino one)

atsonicpark 08.14.2007 03:53 PM

lynch is god.

Torn Curtain 08.14.2007 04:02 PM

Amelie.

Savage Clone 08.14.2007 04:05 PM

Good call on Amelie!

!@#$%! 08.14.2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Anything and everything made by Stanley Kubrick.


ha ha ha ha!!

i laugh, sir.

for you are out of your wazoo.

spartacus? surely a piece of crap.

however:

barry lyndon? an underrated masterpiece without question.

dr. strangelove
? please, brother... that film is pure genius.

i won't go on and on. but the only cinematic turd kubrick ever issued was spartacus, and the one to blame for that is kirk douglas, not kubrick-- the fucker messed with the script, the production, the editing, etc.-- hammy motherfucker!

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Good call on Amelie!


oui, bien su^r!

cute movie or whatever but i so fell asleep the first time around. too many visual gimmicks designed to fool the unwary.

Pookie 08.14.2007 04:17 PM

Terrible and/or overrated Kubrick films:
Spartacus
Lolita
Dr Strangelove
2001
A Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

Surely a record?

Savage Clone 08.14.2007 04:20 PM

I'll give you Lolita (I hated every character in this movie), and I'll give you Spartacus, but Dr. Strangelove and A Clockwork Orange?
You're nuts.

!@#$%! 08.14.2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Terrible and/or overrated Kubrick films:
Spartacus
Lolita
Dr Strangelove
2001
A Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

Surely a record?


ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

you're a master of comedy! but for the joke to be funnier you have to take spartacus out of there.

Rob Instigator 08.14.2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
a clockwork orange isn't as great as you'd be led to believe. it gets kind of difficult to pay attention to once they start reforming him.


the second half of that movie is my favorite part!

Torn Curtain 08.14.2007 04:25 PM

A clockwork orange may not have aged well (especially the beginning) but it's still a great movie.

The Kubrick movie that is overrated in my opinion is Eyes wide shut.

Torn Curtain 08.14.2007 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
the second half of that movie is my favorite part!


Ditto.

Rob Instigator 08.14.2007 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Terrible and/or overrated Kubrick films:
Spartacus
Lolita
Dr Strangelove
2001
A Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

Surely a record?


dr strangelove is the greatest anti-war, anti-government movie ever made

2001 changed cinema forever.

the shining is the best ghost movie ever.

full metal jacket is, for the first hour, pure genius.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.14.2007 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Terrible and/or overrated Kubrick films:
Spartacus
Lolita
Dr Strangelove
2001
A Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket

Surely a record?


Lolita, Dr. Strangelove, 2001, and the Shining are among my faves.

Paths of Glory is an incredibly underrated Kubrick movie.

!@#$%! 08.14.2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
The Kubrick movie that is overrated in my opinion is Eyes wide shut.


really? i thought it was rated quite LOW. a lot of people didn't like it for various reasons-- to me it was a great horror movie, however. i was fucking terrified through most of it, in a way that dracula shit can't make me (i laugh at horror movies, or they gross me out, but they don't "scare" me-- this one did.) oh yes, the real monsters--the mega-rich.

Pookie 08.14.2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
dr strangelove is the greatest anti-war, anti-government movie ever made. It's twaddle.

2001 changed cinema forever. It made falling asleep in the cinema acceptable?

the shining is the best ghost movie ever. Have you never seen The Innocents?

full metal jacket is, for the first hour, pure genius. Another whiney "Americans as victims in Vietnam" bunch of wank.


And I'll add Chicago. I went to see the show, and it's fantastic and sexy and camp. The film wasn't any of that.

Savage Clone 08.14.2007 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
And I'll add Chicago. I went to see the show, and it's fantastic and sexy and camp. The film wasn't any of that.



That's because musicals are fucking stupid.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 08.14.2007 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
Amelie.


To me Amelie is a cute idealistic movie, which is a nice pick me up, but Jeunet's earlier films are a lot better.

Pookie 08.14.2007 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
That's because musicals are fucking stupid.

Alright Mr Too-Cool-For-School


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