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sarramkrop 07.11.2007 03:10 PM

Why was I not born a girl?
 
I came to the conclusion that I don't enjoy being a man at all, and I admire girls much more than I will ever admire men. I'm not even kidding, but if I could financially afford it, who knows, I'd definitely go that one step further and change sex. This has nothing to do with being uncomfortable with my male state either, it's just that so often I whish I was born a girl and I feel cursed.

jon boy 07.11.2007 03:13 PM

shut up and do the washing up woman for christs sake and get me beer while your at it.

SynthethicalY 07.11.2007 03:16 PM

I like being a guy, not to be sexist, but girls have it worst.

sarramkrop 07.11.2007 03:17 PM

Yeah, but I've always thought that I'd get the best of both worlds for having been a man before.

SynthethicalY 07.11.2007 03:19 PM

Well that could be true. But if you can't afford it save so you can have it. But you will need a lot of therapy for a change.

sarramkrop 07.11.2007 03:27 PM

I know, I have a couple of friends who have gone all the way and needed extended therapy or some who are still coming to terms with their feminine side taking over. I deal with it by trying to feel comfortable with who I am, but still I wish I was a female while it's just me and me together. I dunno, it's kinda difficult to explain something like that but I feel like Brian the bricklayer wishing he turned into his wife so there were two Janes, instead of just one.

SynthethicalY 07.11.2007 03:33 PM

I am comfortable with being a gay male, I don't want to change that. But I can see why some people are like that. It is that you just got more female hormones in you than male hormones. That is what makes you want to be a femine person. I just think you are coming to the realization that you prefer to be a female person then a male person. That takes gut to admit it.

thewall91 07.11.2007 03:33 PM

i have a cousin who had the sex change - went from a boy to a girl, and now she's a lesbian. pretty strange. apparently it had nothing to do with sexuality - he was never into guys. she was born a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

sarramkrop 07.11.2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thewall91
i have a cousin who had the sex change - went from a boy to a girl, and now she's a lesbian. pretty strange. apparently it had nothing to do with sexuality - he was never into guys. she was born a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

That's common in transexuals to still prefer girls after the sex change. It's not like I come across as being particularly gay or whatever either, it's just that I would prefer to be a female, deep deep down. I don't even know too well about the hormone thing either, nevr noticed anything particularly strange in me.

floatingslowly 07.11.2007 03:44 PM

why not just get the tits?

I know someone who's halfway and I think (s)he's pretty comfortable with it. hell, until it was explained that her name is "Brent" and not "Bren", my wife assumed she was really a woman.

Brent's boyfriend (whom we call "Patch" because of the eyepatch he always wears) is attributed with the hilariously defensive quote: "just because my chick has a dick, doesn't mean I'm gay".

Trasher02 07.11.2007 03:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjo3SxfttKU

Like in this episode?

pbradley 07.11.2007 03:50 PM

If you do get a sex change, I will start calliing you dudette.

And nobody wants that.

sarramkrop 07.11.2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
why not just get the tits?

I know someone who's halfway and I think (s)he's pretty comfortable with it. hell, until it was explained that her name is "Brent" and not "Bren", my wife assumed she was really a woman.

Brent's boyfriend (whom we call "Patch" because of the eyepatch he always wears) is attributed with the hilariously defensive quote: "just because my chick has a dick, doesn't mean I'm gay".


Stop fucking with my brain, I thought about getting one tit instead of both before, just in case I'd change my mind. Again, I'm being serious about this.

floatingslowly 07.11.2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Stop fucking with my brain, I thought about getting one tit instead of both before, just in case I'd change my mind. Again, I'm being serious about this.


for once, I was being serious!

don't get just one tit. that's no fun at all.

honestly though, just go all the way if you are going to do it at all.

Genesis P-Orridge is fucking creepy (creepier) these days.


 

atari 2600 07.11.2007 04:29 PM

Homosexuality, as a mental health issue, was removed from the DSM over a generation ago, however, Gender Identity Disorder is still on the books.



Someone get sarramkop a Nurse and Medication, stat!

atsonicpark 07.11.2007 05:08 PM

hmm. i'd consider it a blessing that you weren't born a girl. almost all of them are pretty fucking illogical and ridiculous.

but i tend to think maybe i should have been a girl too. or maybe i'm secretly gay. every girl i've ever been attracted to is VERY boyish looking -- and girls that most dudes think is hot, like jennifer lopez and eva longoria and so on, i think are just disgusting looking (and probably disgusting individuals). i actually really like clothes a lot, especially women's clothes.. and i enjoy a finger in my ass. i tend to not have fun at all fucking a girl's vagina but a nice blowjob is amazing!

i know those are all weird sexual things and they probably don't have any real light to shed on me being gay or if i'd be better as a woman, but i secretly think we all have curiosities, desires, etc.. obviously.. and i also theorize that we're all secretly somewhat gay. i mean, every girl i've ever known has said that other girls are hot, and a few of us (me included) guys will admit if a guy's good looking or attractive or whatever. if we can admit someone of our own sex is attractive -- if we recognize this, if we ourselves are ATTRACTED -- then doesn't that make us somewhat "gay"?

anyway, yeah, i used to wonder why i wasn't a girl when i was little. and luckily about a year ago my girlfriend cut her hair really short so she looks exactly like a boy with boobs, and that was enough for me to be happy and enjoy the best of both worlds kinda. so yeah.

Danny Himself 07.11.2007 05:41 PM

Who was to know you would feel this way? You were born a boy because, well, thems the breaks. Shit happens.

Cantankerous 07.11.2007 06:05 PM

being a girl is lovely. it's so much easier to be manipulative because you can do it without being sleazy.

Danny Himself 07.11.2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
being a girl is lovely. it's so much easier to be manipulative because you can do it without being sleazy.


Don't make him feel worse.

Cantankerous 07.11.2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny Himself
Don't make him feel worse.

just sayin.

Danny Himself 07.11.2007 06:12 PM

Ok. So anywaise, whats up?

Savage Clone 07.11.2007 06:19 PM

Had I been born a girl I would be absolutely giddy about some recent weight loss instead of just really pleased.

Nice to see you back, if only temporarily.

Edit:
Much/most of my other behavior is straight up "shoulda been born a girl."

Cantankerous 07.11.2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Had I been born a girl I would be absolutely giddy about some recent weight loss instead of just really pleased.

Nice to see you back, if only temporarily.

Edit:
Much/most of my other behavior is straight up "shoulda been born a girl."

i don't know, man. not a lot of girls i know would be rocking the cape.

Savage Clone 07.11.2007 06:33 PM

You're not hanging out with the right girls, then.

Besides, that picture is like 5 years old now.

pantophobia 07.11.2007 06:35 PM

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Why was I not born a girl?

that question explains a lot, and plagues my mind eternally

floatingslowly 07.11.2007 07:32 PM

I want to say that I'm sorry if I made light of your post Porks.

I didn't really mean to, but sometimes my Master Control Program (Ono Sendai AI.5) overrides all access to teledigital communications.

so in a sense, I blame faulty hardware myself.

my circuitry is not exactly bleeding edge, and as you can see my BIOS could use a flash update.

[Genesis was a real ruiner on my part]

MCP has authorized me to tell you that people around you should accept you for who you are, not what you are. if they don't, they aren't worth the bother.

your opinion on this subject is truely the only one that matters. my logic paths were previously unable to compute a serious answer.

so, yeah. sorry.

bzzxzzt....pop......spark *******




 

Toilet & Bowels 07.11.2007 09:13 PM

i think i'd be rubbish at being a girl

Cantankerous 07.11.2007 10:59 PM

you would make a pretty girl. no wait. i like you as a pretty man.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 07.11.2007 11:26 PM

I can't imagine not having a penis. I like the idea of being a key, not a keyhole.

davenotdead 07.11.2007 11:49 PM

 


have you tried wearing the clothes around to see if it feels natural? I'd have a problem not wearing boxers...

Dead-Air 07.12.2007 12:10 AM

I much prefer females to males overall, and I find they seem much more powerful and interesting beings. However, I kind of like being a male who "gets" this rather than feeling the need to cross over completely. 98% of the women I've ever been physically involved with were actively bi, and one was a bull dyke lesbian who didn't do any other guys (ever). I used to get into cross dressing a lot, but I don't have the figure to do it justice like I used to. Even then, though, I felt I was trying to be in both genders at once, not leaving my birth one behind.

Of course this has nothing to do with your desires or feelings of gender inadequecy, other than to say there are a lot more than "two" ways of looking at it all (and that's without even taking personal sexual preference into the formula; I remember when nearly all of my male friends were gay, and I just couldn't fathom why when they had such great taste in everything else they would want to fuck such ugly creatures as men.)

Cantankerous 07.12.2007 12:12 AM

i wouldn't want to be a boy, but you guys wouldn't want to be girls if you had to deal with shaving your legs, armpits, what-have-yous, doing your hair, makeup, nails; periods, birth control, plucking your eyebrows, childbirth, wearing a bra, DEALING WITH MEN etc etc etc. it's a pain in the ass sometimes.

Dead-Air 07.12.2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i wouldn't want to be a boy, but you guys wouldn't want to be girls if you had to deal with shaving your legs, armpits, what-have-yous, doing your hair, makeup, nails; periods, birth control, plucking your eyebrows, childbirth, wearing a bra, DEALING WITH MEN etc etc etc. it's a pain in the ass sometimes.


Exactly. As a man, I can grow my hair and throw on a dress and look beautiful without all of that shit. If I could just get back down to below 140 lbs, I could any way.

drrrtyboots 07.12.2007 12:33 AM

Well, plenty of men take the initiave to throw on dresses already and look great!

 

Dead-Air 07.12.2007 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
women have always been able to use ass as a meal ticket....always. and they always have...not all mind you. just, theres always been those that do, even now.

which is fine...i dont care.

but VERY few men have that same luxury.



You seem to be forgeting about Skid Row here.

Cantankerous 07.12.2007 12:47 AM

what i'm saying is that if you were to live like a typical american girl, it would be a pain in the ass.

Anngella 07.12.2007 12:50 AM

Being a woman is great. Minus menstruation.

Cantankerous 07.12.2007 12:53 AM

i bother with doing all that shit because i think it's worth it, personally.

SynthethicalY 07.12.2007 02:05 AM

Parents should not make this decision, till the kid is able to make their own thoughts on that.

Cantankerous 07.12.2007 02:16 AM

if i had kids (and i am not planning on it, but i'm also not ruling it out.) i would support and encourage any decision they made or lifestyle they chose to lead, provided it would make them happy. say if i had a daughter and she felt more comfortable as a male, i'm all for it.


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