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SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.10.2007 10:23 PM

How many groups of friends do you have to go through?
 
Before you don't feel like getting all new friends after a year?

SynthethicalY 06.10.2007 10:24 PM

I am always looking for new people to hang out with. I get bored with people easily, and I have to go onto the next one. Call this heartless but it is the truth.

Alex's Trip 06.10.2007 10:27 PM

Well, every year since middle school I pretty much hung out with different people. I think I've settled down though, and found some good friends that I'll hang out with until high school is over.

pbradley 06.10.2007 10:28 PM

I'm pretty loyal to my friends, actually. Still keep in contact with my high school crew. I'd like to think it's because I'm a good judge of character.

SynthethicalY 06.10.2007 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
i've been grouped with more or less the same kids for a very long time but i've branched off a bit during high school. they all bore me.


Yeah people bore me easily, they just have to be really screwed up for me to be into them.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.10.2007 10:40 PM

It isn't just that they bore me (which they do) but they also just really get on my nerves after awhile.

SynthethicalY 06.10.2007 10:47 PM

Oh they never get on my nerves. I think people who I don't know get me on my nerves more than the ones I know.

schizophrenicroom 06.10.2007 10:53 PM

the ones that get on my nerves the most are ones that think they know me but we're barely more than strangers. i mean the kind of people you have in one class or sit near on the bus. if i haven't made an effort to get to know you, i never will, so don't come up to me going "i like pie" and assume we have some grand friendship.

Everyneurotic 06.10.2007 10:55 PM

ohh now i know a lot of people, which is cool since they are different; and it's also good because you can check with everybody to see who's doing what and you might want to go with some one week, other the next, etc.

schizophrenicroom 06.10.2007 11:01 PM

yeah, i like that i've got a really cool group kinda coming together now. they all live the next town over but that doesn't hurt anything. i'm not intensely close to any of them but it beats being alone.

SynthethicalY 06.10.2007 11:10 PM

After High School I roamed the earth all alone, and it was grand. My college friends are amazing, they give me differnet things to think about. My best friend in College is a lesbian.

Пятхъдесят Шест 06.10.2007 11:26 PM

I can't seem to understand why people complain about their 'friends'. If I don't like someone I stay away from them. I'm certainly not calling up people who annoy the piss out of me to hang out.

Maybe you're asking for more out of your friends then you should be. How on earth do you meet people if beforehand you're mapping out what it is you want out of someone other than comradeship, or someone who is interesting to talk to.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but who are you to think you're a 'good friend' or interesting or not boring? Do you have lines of people waiting to be friends with you that everyone is dispensable when you feel you've got enough out of the relationship and its time to move on?

schizophrenicroom 06.10.2007 11:31 PM

wect- sometimes you just don't need to continue a friendship. i know a girl.. we went to a concert together, hung out, then after some drama we just went seperate ways. i had had enough, and we still talk occasionally but i don't feel the need to ever hang out with her because we're different people.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.10.2007 11:33 PM

I'm not boring. I propose to do fun things that my boring friends don't want to do. They'd rather go to Denny's, sit around and smoke, or watch DVDs.

pbradley 06.10.2007 11:34 PM

Yeah, I mostly break up friendships because they or I've changed.

Not because they start to bore or annoy me. If it were as though we would never change, then we would still be friends.

Пятхъдесят Шест 06.10.2007 11:35 PM

Thats different all together, and I can relate to a story like that. People change it is inevitable. I've been lucky to have the same group of friends for nearly twelve years. They are basically family at this point. But there have been plenty of people along the way that have come and gone.

I'm talking people who dislike their 'friends' for one reason or another and still talk to them, and complain about it. I don't understand.

schizophrenicroom 06.10.2007 11:36 PM

i don't complain about my friends. if i did they wouldn't be my friends.

pbradley 06.10.2007 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I'm not boring. I propose to do fun things that my boring friends don't want to do. They'd rather go to Denny's, sit around and smoke, or watch DVDs.

Did you used to like going to Denny's or watching DVD's? Or have your friends stopped being interested in "fun things" as you say?

Пятхъдесят Шест 06.10.2007 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
i don't complain about my friends. if i did they wouldn't be my friends.


This is what I'm saying.

Like I said, I wasn't necessarily directing what I said to anyone.

!@#$%! 06.10.2007 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Before you don't feel like getting all new friends after a year?


life goes on, then you die.

does that answer your question?

ps - your perception of the importance of "friends" will change as you grow older & realize that life begins to focus around a family of some kind, whatever it is that you choose it to be. (im not saying nuclear family, but a tribe to which you belong, which may be constituted in any number of ways). in the words of gabriel garcia marquez, "friends are shit". don't get me wrong, friends are cool, but they will take on a secondary role once you lock yourself in with your harem, or whatever it is you decide to do about that.

pbradley 06.10.2007 11:43 PM

Man, I wrote a long thing on Arsitotle's defining of friendship not so long ago. I don't want to rehash.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.10.2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
life goes on, then you die.

does that answer your question?

ps - your perception of the importance of "friends" will change as you grow older & realize that life begins to focus around a family of some kind, whatever it is that you choose it to be. (im not saying nuclear family, but a tribe to which you belong, which may be constituted in any number of ways). in the words of gabriel garcia marquez, "friends are shit". don't get me wrong, friends are cool, but they will take on a secondary role once you lock yourself in with your harem, or whatever it is you decide to do about that.


Yeah, I sort of know what you mean already. I have much more fun with my sister, nephew, and brother-in-law then with my friends, and consider them very important. My friends think I'm weird because I like my family. I think they are a bunch of ignorant white trash though, so you know.

!@#$%! 06.10.2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Yeah, I sort of know what you mean already. I have much more fun with my sister, nephew, and brother-in-law then with my friends, and consider them very important. My friends think I'm weird because I like my family. I think they are a bunch of ignorant white trash though, so you know.


ha ha.

well yeah. you know maybe all over the span of your life you'll find some friends you can consider family. but right now it's too early to tell.

one thing i've discovered though, i have to say, in other countries friendships tend to run deeper than in america. here the sense of the individual is such that most people live in a little bubble, and they take refuge in their marriage or whatever. BUT still it's important to develop new friendships and part with the stale ones as your life evolves. it's like an extended family. but yes, you lose the common ground, you lose the same old habits, and your friends are going to look at you and say "WTF happened?" and then it's time to move on. besides what i wrote about america, people here move so much that friendships are more difficult than in places where people stay put in the same house all their lives. or something... im rambling now...

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.10.2007 11:52 PM

I find that I'm too nice to my friends and the end up taking advantage of it- then I snap and I'm angry at them for awhile, then everything gets better for awhile. The cycle repeats until it is utterly ridiculous and then I stop talking to them.

!@#$%! 06.10.2007 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I find that I'm too nice to my friends and the end up taking advantage of it- then I snap and I'm angry at them for awhile, then everything gets better for awhile. The cycle repeats until it is utterly ridiculous and then I stop talking to them.


eh, that's a social skill you'll have to learn, to manage your borders i guess, i don't know how to call it.

the other thing is that you live in a small town and having a peculiar temperament that leans toward the romantic (i mean this in the art history way not in the hallmark card way) it's going to be hard for you to fit in.

have you thought any further about moving? maybe to philly or something? a nice arts community there...

Everyneurotic 06.11.2007 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I find that I'm too nice to my friends and the end up taking advantage of it- then I snap and I'm angry at them for awhile, then everything gets better for awhile. The cycle repeats until it is utterly ridiculous and then I stop talking to them.


that sounds very familiar to me.

perhaps you should be more guarded and take people at face value, kinda like !@#$%! said.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.11.2007 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
eh, that's a social skill you'll have to learn, to manage your borders i guess, i don't know how to call it.

the other thing is that you live in a small town and having a peculiar temperament that leans toward the romantic (i mean this in the art history way not in the hallmark card way) it's going to be hard for you to fit in.

have you thought any further about moving? maybe to philly or something? a nice arts community there...


I know what you mean by romantic. I always hesitate to use the word, because people will always use the common meaning too.

I'm fine though. . . I'm just through with a friend who I've always known was immature but just sort of accepted it. Just seems like every year I'm through with a few new ones. So then I go to myself "I've got to find some new friends that I can have fun with for a couple of months then toss away once I get tired of their bullshit and drama."

I don't think friends are all that important really. But they can be a problem sometimes and I wonder why I even have them.

SynthethicalY 06.11.2007 12:34 AM

I remember in high school there was this girl who used to be my high school, and just last year we really drifted away. I stopped calling her. And I just went my way. is still see her around, but don't even bother to talk to her, or call her.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.11.2007 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
that sounds very familiar to me.

perhaps you should be more guarded and take people at face value, kinda like !@#$%! said.


I'm going to be.

I offer people hospitality, then they take the hospitality for granted. I think I'm really going to learn to separate where I live from and where I hang out.

Jenmarie 06.11.2007 01:08 AM

i'm a terribly shy person, and i have to find certain people that i can easily talk to to become friends with. they also have to feel that same "friendship" connection i feel before i even feel comfortable talking and hanging out with them. and then narrowing down that list of "past friends of high school and out of touch friends" ...so that narrows down alot of people for me :/

i'm a weird kid.

finding nobody 06.11.2007 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenmarie
i'm a terribly shy person, and i have to find certain people that i can easily talk to to become friends with. they also have to feel that same "friendship" connection i feel before i even feel comfortable talking and hanging out with them. and then narrowing down that list of "past friends of high school and out of touch friends" ...so that narrows down alot of people for me :/

i'm a weird kid.

Hey.. I can relate

SynthethicalY 06.11.2007 01:16 AM

I am the shy kid, but have been breaking out of that mold. And I usually start talking to anybody. Don't care who they are, and just start talking to them about nothing.

Everyneurotic 06.11.2007 01:26 AM

i'm shy too, i kind of try to step away from it but i'm, still fairly shy. i usually don't go up and talk to people but sometimes i do.

i made it seem like i hang out with a lot of people, most of my friend circles consist of one or two people.

floatingslowly 06.11.2007 12:05 PM

once I consider somebody my friend it's usually forever.

however, getting to the point of being friends is the hard part.

king_buzzo 06.11.2007 12:10 PM

I dont like change, but I like talking to different people, not hanging out with them for a long time. I like socializing with other years.

Green_mind 06.11.2007 12:30 PM

Everyone can get boring and/or bored at times, I don't think it's healthy to see friends all the time, but I'd never set standards of how entertaining my friends are. I don't think I've really fallen out with anyone before, I try to stay away from drama, but like some of you guys say, many relationships have drifted away.

screamingskull 06.11.2007 12:34 PM

i say 5 or 6.

pantophobia 06.11.2007 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест
I can't seem to understand why people complain about their 'friends'. If I don't like someone I stay away from them. I'm certainly not calling up people who annoy the piss out of me to hang out.

Maybe you're asking for more out of your friends then you should be. How on earth do you meet people if beforehand you're mapping out what it is you want out of someone other than comradeship, or someone who is interesting to talk to.

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but who are you to think you're a 'good friend' or interesting or not boring? Do you have lines of people waiting to be friends with you that everyone is dispensable when you feel you've got enough out of the relationship and its time to move on?


this is a great point, and besides, what's the point in complaining if you actually have friends

it's like saying this cake is too sugary so fuck it i want some pie, something tart

Inhuman 06.11.2007 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I find that I'm too nice to my friends and the end up taking advantage of it- then I snap and I'm angry at them for awhile, then everything gets better for awhile. The cycle repeats until it is utterly ridiculous and then I stop talking to them.


The exact same thing happens to me. I was raised to always be polite, and I end up blending into the wrong crouds so I'll feel more comfortable in their environment, which I shouldn't. Then we become friends, they do something that I really don't like/ take advantage of me, I get angry, and it repeats until I don't talk to them anymore.

I've been through a lot of crowds lately, and nothing that I can really enjoy. The group of people that I really loved not long ago all got into MDMA and Ketamine, and now one dropped out of high school and went to rehab, one has been having constant unprotected sex and she's very young, and I don't know about the rest.
Another group I hang out with are really nice people, but for some reason are at good terms with a couple of rapists that I know, and the group is connected to the Dawson Shooting guy (a friend of a friend of mine). They're nice people, just they hang out with people that are scary.

sarramkrop 06.11.2007 01:29 PM

I know a lot of people, but I have few close friends that I have known forever. I believe in loyalty and honesty, and I'm lucky to get both from them. I'm not adverse to making new friends, but if they are too demanding, dishonest or complicated for reasons understandable only to themselves, I show them the door. The more I grow older, the less I have patience for playing games.


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