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Skuj 11.02.2020 05:54 PM

The 2020 USA Election Thread
 
Yeah, there's a Trump thread, and a Biden thread, and a Coronavirus Thread, and they intersect.

But how about a thread specifically for the Election? I think it is a useful idea.

Predictions. Results. SCOTUS challenges. Civil War.

How about we direct all that Election and Aftermath stuff to this thread?

Anyone want to make predictions on results?

choc e-Claire 11.02.2020 06:30 PM

Dammit, I wanted to make this :p

Biden to be looking very likely to win on the night, but with enough doubt that the shit goes on for weeks.

!@#$%! 11.02.2020 06:47 PM

word on the financial world is a biden win with a republican senate is worst case scenario

Skuj 11.02.2020 06:49 PM

Yeah, I predict a Biden win. The Experiment is over. It failed.

I also predict that Florida and Texas will do what they do: stay red.

Therefore the count will be something close to 300 Biden - 238 Trump.

Popular vote will be 51.5% Biden - 48.5% Trump.

I will spend the rest of my years wondering how the election could be this close.

But the real story will be what Trump does in the ensuing hours/days/weeks. He won't concede. He'll tweet and talk endlessly about fraud/rigged/etc. There will be no transfer between Trump and Biden.

I predict that finally, some key people in the GOP will stand up to Trump. Pence will do the transfer duties.

!@#$%! 11.02.2020 06:49 PM

im not making any fucking predictions in a random world

i just brace myself for whatever may come

Skuj 11.02.2020 06:52 PM

I also predict a narrow Senate win for Dems.

(Maybe the drugs are hitting me now.)

The Soup Nazi 11.02.2020 07:07 PM

Oh, come ON, another thread? Skuj, you know I dig you, but unless the mods (and I don't mean those riding on Vespas) were to consolidate all the other shit here, this won't be a megathread, just the fourth thread dedicated in good part to president Apocalypse Fuckface.

The damage is done now, though, so I guess I'm subscribed. :D

tw2113 11.02.2020 07:21 PM

May be an interesting day tomorrow since I need to stay sober due to being on 24/7 call for my dayjob for a couple weeks.

Skuj 11.02.2020 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Oh, come ON, another thread? Skuj, you know I dig you, but unless the mods (and I don't mean those riding on Vespas) were to consolidate all the other shit here, this won't be a megathread, just the fourth thread dedicated in good part to president Apocalypse Fuckface.

The damage is done now, though, so I guess I'm subscribed. :D


Dude....this one is The Election Thread.

The Trumpy Thread and The Biden Thread and The Virus Thread don't really lend themselves to focussing on this topic in a coherent manner.

The Soup Nazi 11.02.2020 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj
Dude....this one is The Election Thread.

The Trumpy Thread and The Biden Thread and The Virus Thread don't really lend themselves to focussing on this topic in a coherent manner.


At this point, nothing does. This one's bound to go off the rails anyway when I start posting about how awesome Merritt Wever is. Which she is! :)

Skuj 11.02.2020 07:58 PM

***Looks up Merritt Wever***

Actually, I'll be away from internet for 5 days after today. But 5 days from now the dust may not have settled. In fact, Tornado Apocalypse Fuckface will be churning it up. I'm sure that this particular topic will have legs for quite a while.

!@#$%! 11.02.2020 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuj

(Maybe the drugs are hitting me now.)

what are you taking? hook us up hahahahaha

Skuj 11.02.2020 08:34 PM

Yeah, it might be very wishful thinking to predict The Triple Crown for Dems. The thought of 4 more years of Obstructionism and McConnel makes me ill.

Antagon 11.02.2020 08:34 PM

I won't make any specific predictions. But the popular vote does seem very much in favor of Biden. The electoral college just might be as well, though I'm saying this with the utmost caution.

As for the shit-ton of other hurdles that are needed to be overcome for him to actually enter the White House in January - that shit's anyone's guess and it could get very ugly. Anyway, as someone looking in from the outside, I wish the states the best. Too many people have had to endure the dire consequences of a broken system.

Within all this adversity there's also been a lot of solidarity - people looking out for each other, taking to the streets to fight for a better future and to make their voices heard. Those are sentiments that are seen and heard around the world. It's been a tough 4 years for a lot of people, this much is evident. You deserve better than this.

Let's hope the results tomorrow will be a step in a better direction. I think no one has any illusions that all of the woes are gonna magically disappear with someone else in office, but I'd imagine some respite from this bonkers hellscape that were the last few years would be welcome. You need a good breather. And fingers crossed that you'll get it. The world is watching with bated breath.

!@#$%! 11.02.2020 08:54 PM

tomorrow is just when the election ends. people have been voting for weeks now.

what begins tomorrow (i’ll venture a prediction) is a long knife fight with republicans trying to disenfranchise people and throw out votes. this not so much a “prediction” of unexpected things, but just their usual modus operandi.

actually, scratch that, the knife fight has been ongoing.

and one way or another the damage to this country has already been perpetrated. here’s to uncle joe being able to heal some of that, in whatever way may be available to him... if it’s available.

anyway, expect more dirty tricks from the repukes.

and a good day to read the stoics, who didn’t always practiced what they preached, but still wrote well about dealing with adversity and the unexpected...

Skuj 11.02.2020 08:58 PM

I don't envy Biden. How the fuck do you even begin the process of Untrumping America? And what is the national debt today?

Yeah, it's quite amazing that 100,000,000 have voted early. Wasn't the total vote 130,000,000 last time?

Questions: Do all of the early votes get counted tomorrow? Only mail-ins are counted later? What % of all votes is mail-ins?

EVOLghost 11.02.2020 09:01 PM

Yeah. Just accounting for the mail in votes, it's like nearly 70% of the total from the last election....which is pretty nuts. I'm just hoping it's bringing the right people out to vote. Anyway....this week is going to be an interesting one.

h8kurdt 11.03.2020 04:44 AM

I'll be staying up to watch the results come in. Can't see it being decided tonight but we'll see. With the result I'm going for hoping for the best, expecting the worst. The good thing will be if Trump wins then the £50 bet I put on him will help soothe the annoyance for a few hours.

Basically we're all watching Alien Vs Predator and whoever wins we lose.

_tunic_ 11.03.2020 07:04 AM

I wonder how long it will take before the official final result will be announced. Just read this article but doesn't give much clearance:
US Election 2020: When will we get a result and could it be contested?
(bummer I can't read this article, NYT is asking me for paid subscription)

Bush-Gore took something like 37 days, I assume this election to take longer with all the mailed-in votes and there will be several recounts requested.

I guess first results will be lob-sided for Trump from the physical votes and Biden will benefit from the mail votes, hopefully it will be enough

h8kurdt 11.03.2020 07:43 AM

Gonna be interesting to see if the rumours that Trump will declare victory before all the results are in are true. He's not going to wait around.

tesla69 11.03.2020 11:33 AM

Just voted for Biden, I want a war with Russia and send all you little muppets off to die! I'm too old and I'll just profit from it. I also approve of Biden's work with Farrakhan, he will work to destroy Israel for sure! And since Biden will be amendment 25'ed out, we'll get a real commie whore for president, who sucked the dripping slime off Willie Brown's dick, that is the person you want on your side. Of course most of you don't know who Willie Brown is because you are ignorant.


Learn Chinese, they are your masters. Mandatory vaccines in Brazil using Chinese vaccines.

_slavo_ 11.03.2020 11:39 AM

I really hope for the good of the whole world that the orange shithead will lose and finally dissapear from public.

tw2113 11.03.2020 12:07 PM


 

Simply meaning i voted

!@#$%! 11.03.2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw2113
 

Simply meaning i voted

yes but was sauron destroyed?

_tunic_ 11.03.2020 06:44 PM

These are the presidential candidates in Nevada:

Donald Trump*(R)
Joe Biden(D)
Don Blankenship(IAP)
Jo Jorgensen(LIB)
None of these candidates(NPD)

There is really a possibility to vote for None of the abovein Nevada!

Reason I saw this is that I was wondering about all the independent candidates, most of them only run in certain states, so what's the point in taking part anyway?
Phil Collins is taking part in Colorado! Probably a different one. But my favorite is Ricki King in Iowa, her slogan is “I don’t want your vote. (I want your signature.)”

h8kurdt 11.03.2020 09:12 PM

The idea that Texas could flip to blue is absolutely insane. Fair while to go before it's clear but the fact it's close is interesting itself. When was the last time it was democrat?

h8kurdt 11.04.2020 04:39 AM

Anyone sweating yet?

_tunic_ 11.04.2020 05:25 AM

Slovenian Prime Minister Janez Janša congratulates Donald Trump despite no election result

Quote:

"It’s pretty clear that American people have elected ⁦Donald Trump and Mike Pence for four more years," Janša tweeted on Wednesday.

"More delays and facts denying ... [the] bigger the final triumph for the President. Congratulations ⁦to the Republican Party for strong results across the US".


Slovenia is the homeland of Melania of course

choc e-Claire 11.04.2020 05:25 AM

A little bit, yeah, but I'm generally nihilistic, so what will be will be.

GravitySlips 11.04.2020 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
YEAH, AS IN I'M SWEATING WHETHER OR NOT THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO SPARK CIVIL WAR RIGHT HERE IN MY OWN COUNTRY!!!!


^ The failure of "Make America Great Again" - 4 years later and this is where you're at. Fencing off the white house, etc. A fat whining President who doesn't give a shit about the democratic process.

Bloody shocking if you ask me.

GravitySlips 11.04.2020 05:58 AM

Vladimir Putin's LOVING this shit haha.

h8kurdt 11.04.2020 06:34 AM

Ah, so the conspiracies have started already have they? What a shitshow.

_tunic_ 11.04.2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
WHAT'S HAPPENNING TO THE BALLOTS YET TO BE COUNTED???

THEY

ARE

BEING

COUNTED

RIGHT

NOW



but it's manual and time consuming labour. So give them the time to process the results adequately







It's plain stupid of you and your President to complain about the voting process and progress. While he was the President over the past four years, he could have worked on improving the voting process, not now complain afterwards

!@#$%! 11.04.2020 08:54 AM

while predictions are difficult and the future is unknown, you can always count on trump to predictably start some narcissistic shitshow.

 

h8kurdt 11.04.2020 09:36 AM

The margins at Wisconsin and Michigan are so unbelievably tight. The fact that Trump has already demanded counting be stopped and he declared winner shows he ain't taking this lying down.

Wonder how many recounts he'll demand if it goes in Biden's favour?

tw2113 11.04.2020 10:04 AM

No idea why he wants counting to stop and current numbers to be considered final, when everywhere I check shows Biden leading in both popular vote and electoral votes.

!@#$%! 11.04.2020 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw2113
No idea why he wants counting to stop and current numbers to be considered final, when everywhere I check shows Biden leading in both popular vote and electoral votes.

knowing him, it’s probably just about making a stink in case he loses.

notice i didn’t say he’s going to lose, because i don’t know the future.

i’m saying it’s insurance, a hedge. it’s about protecting his fragile ego from being A LOSER. if he does, “it’s someone else’s fault.”

then again it could be something more malevolent. while trumpo’s behavior is stereotypical, i don’t know mitch’s mind.

h8kurdt 11.04.2020 11:26 AM

Last night I was leading, often solidly, in many key States, in almost all instances Democrat run & controlled. Then, one by one, they started to magically disappear as surprise ballot dumps were counted. VERY STRANGE, and the “pollsters” got it completely & historically wrong!

The brains on Trump at show here.

_tunic_ 11.04.2020 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw2113
No idea why he wants counting to stop and current numbers to be considered final, when everywhere I check shows Biden leading in both popular vote and electoral votes.

CNN has been explaining this all day long. All votes that still need to be counted are mail-in ballots, which are predominantly Democratic votes (probably, because they still need to be counted), and most are from the heavier populated urban counties. Philadelphia County is still at 64% whereas other more rural counties in Pennsylvania state are already fully counted.
I've been watching CNN all day, it's like watching grass grow.


I don't understand why your voting process is so elaborate and difficult. E.g. overseas military personnel can send their vote on Election Day by mail, and you'll need to wait another 10 days or so to make sure that they can be counted as well.

!@#$%! 11.04.2020 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h8kurdt
The brains on Trump at show here.

don the con is priming the stupids for the next squeeze. he’s just making utterances at their level. “many people are saying...” plus hyperbole.

 


whatever the result of this election, it’s been shown now for decades that disinformation is a powerful tool, and social media has made us more vulnerable to it.

i’m more worried about the senate at this point. a biden presidency with a mcconnell senate could be an utter clusterfuck. no stimulus, no infrastructure bill, just more obstructionism, and midterms in 2 years.


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