Does Thurston like Joy Division?
 

Does anyone know? i knid of feel like he would. Just wondering...

I would think he'd have a soft spot for them. The driving bass lines and drumming at least.

In 22 years of following SY closely, I can't think of anytime I've ever heard Thurston namecheck Joy Division or Ian Curtis. Of course that doesn't mean he isn't into them, but I don't think they'd be in his top favorite groups, since he is so vocal about what he's into.

Of course, I never knew Sonic Youth were into Gang of Four until I saw that they were going to be playing at a festival right before them, and they sound very excited to be announcing it. I doubt anybody could be such an important force in Post Punk music and not acknowledge Joy Division as one of the founders of the movement. "She is Not Alone" does seem potentially a bit Joy Division influenced too, now that I think of it.

He likes Interpol, does he not? They're practically the same band, except that Interpol are more good looking and are all alive.

Although you do make a valid point about their similar sounds, Interpol couldn't even polish Peter Hook's bass.

Really? could you post a link to wherever you discovered that?

I couldn't. I heard it somewhere though. Here's where Thurston logs on and proves me wrong.

The only bands i've always assumed he didn't like were The Cure and The Pixies . Not terribly relevant stuff, you understand. Do get a good night of sleep.

Does Thurston like meatball sandwiches?

If Thurston hates Joy Division, I might have to stop listening to them.

I play it safe, and don't listen to any music unless I know Thurston approves.

thurston is into death metal

Rain King has a bit of a Joy Division feel to it..

he's only into joy division cover bands; the more innacurate the better...

[quote=Bal]thurston is into death metal

Of course he is into Death Metal; complex chord changes and complex rythmic structure with dark overtones?....... not poser whiny crap like the Cure. I personally Don't like Joy Divsion, but, to me they are New Wave and I don't like that type, errrrrr, crap of music. ( my version of new wave...." oh why, oh why, oh why......oh why meeeee me me me me me meme me me only me.... why yyyyyyyyyiyyyyyy, 1234".:fuckyou:

Matthew

ha ha. correction Immortal = Black metal.

the connoisseur will know the difference ;)

TRVE KVLT NORGE BLACK METAL, you say? :)

people who are soo curious as to what thurston is into SUCK...

get an identity, get a mind and use it...

excuse me scott v, but i have all of those things you listed and i do use my mind. If you are thinking that i am asking this question to confirm my stance on whether i like joy division or not, you are clearly a dumb mother fucker. I like Joy Division alot and i like their subtle noise that is displayed in both of their albums especially Closer. I really wanted to know if Thurston liked them because he is certainly well educated in popular music (and unpopular) and i just wondered if he grabbed any inspiration from the band or for some unknown reason doesn't like the band. I was not asking the question to develop an opinion on Joy Division through Thurston. I was more so just curious and wondered if he liked a band that i respect and like greatly. So correction: you suck.

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Ya I agree too most is shitty I like very specific bands, but there are new ones every once and a while.... Black Metal, death metal I dont give a shit what it is called......whatever....If it is good I like it...cliched crap in any vein sucks ass.

The was this cool band from seattle...The accused.....punk death metal wicked.
Matthew

Hmm... maybe I should check them out before I bash them....I only remember new wave sounds.....did I miss somthing...?

Matthew

Exactly. While you and I don't get along, at least you aren't fucking brain dead like alot of people on here.

Thurston and band were interviewed by Tony Wilson on local TV here in Manchester about the time of Daydream Nation.
There didn't seem to be much reverence for Wilson or his Factory label going on at the time. In fact the interview is funnily frosty. Both sides are rather sarcastic to each other.
I'd imagine SY would like JD because they're smart, of an artistic bent and have been known to rock radical.

I think it's just that Tony Wilson is an asshole.

Regarding SY and Joy Division I don't know Thurston's opinion but it's certain that Steve likes them.

I always thought Making the Nature Scene was a JD homage, because really it is something I'd imagine JD doing. This is an interesting subject to me though because I always site one or the other, say if someone says they like Joy Division but not Sonic Youth that really bothers me. Though I think SY is the better band there's a correlation i think between them. In kind of how radical and in the way they were at their time. They're both influentual in the same kind of ways too.

joy division weren't new wave...

i think unknown pleasures (and everything before and after on the "heart and soul" disc one) is easily some of the best things ever recorded. after that, it was a bit all over the place.

i'm sure thurston digs it. .most people should and do.

this question is now answered here

Thanks for the link ;)

when thurston played a solo show in brooklyn, before playing trees outside the acadamy, he said "This song is about Ian Curtis"

so i'd say yes.

Thanks for the link. All we need to know now is if he likes drywall....

I would say he's into splash ceilings...

Well, the question wasn't that pointless to me (I thought there were palpable Joy Division influences in early Sonic Youth and I'm glad to learn I may be right).

hey everyone, quick note. thurston isnt god, he is a bloke in a band with an eclectic taste in music. yeah he is influencial and yeah he is knowledgeable but anyone with a grain of love for music of any genre will like joy division. if you dont well then its because its trendy to say so because joy division are back in vouge again....... i really get bored of flyby fans and post loving trends. music is good music end of story, lets not break out the butchers knife for the sake of 30 seconds of coolness........

thuston and kim also like the carpenters but i never ever see people waxing lyrically about those!

Kill Yr Idols

I'm not sure that title is to be taken literally (cf the Teenage riot video).

sonic death!

Wasn't that in the liner notes to the Deluxe Daydream Nation?

Joy Division started out as punk definitely, listen to the Ideal For Living EP. But by their full lengths they were a full fledged post-punk band. And Interpol, try as they might, will never hold a candle to them. I loved Control, but am afraid now that every know nothing shit is going to start listening to them, especially with the reissues, and especially since anything remotely new wave or "post-punk" is so in right now. I mean, I've been listening to JD since I was 14, when I bought the Heart and Soul boxset, and now all these people, granted they are my age, are going to be co-opting them...but it was a great film. And i cant really stand those biopics, ie Ray and Walk the Line.

Calm it down a notch there, bucko. I'm pretty sure the film's only showing at art-houses anyway, isn't it? Anyway, Joy Division's been co-opted for a loooooong time now. Shit, you can see pictures of Good Charlotte wearing their shirts. Whatevuh.

good charlotte like to eat each other's assholes out