Let's post pics of the prophet Mohammed!
 

http://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=dVPWJqqPkVqQonMzRh662T9R-OUbM&authuser=0&ned=us&topic=h&siidp=98b382791c095 949c7267ac3719b175b793f

Gotta spread some Reputation around before giving it to h8kurdt again.

guys you have misunderstood the thread what soup nazi meant was the islamic prophet mohammed

nobody knows what he looks like, so all anyone can post is stereotypical and racist cartoons. good work guys thanx for saving the west

I did not post stereotypical anything.

Ali Shaheeb Mohammed's got me doin' calisthenics.

so the frenchies got killed for publishing stereotypical cartoons of nobody in particular? a bit harsh...

cartoons, and caricatures, are BY DEFINITION, playing off of stereotypes/cliche's/exaggerations.

fuck all religions. If the people who run the religions really cared about humans, they would denounce, and publicly flog and castigate any fundamentalist who tried to kill someone because they were "offended," but they don;t because it is not good for business.

Same reason that the US government cannot denounce the "church" of scientology as a con/fraud/scam, because if they did they would have to apply that same logic to every other church in the country.

They all have pointless rituals, un-provable tenets, ask money from the followers for nothing in return, seek to control the day-to-day actions and thoughts of their followers, etc.

fuck all that shit. Humanity needs to grow out of this insidious superstition.

blasphemy is a RIGHT

I knew this bible-thumping chick. Wanted to "wait til marriage" and at parties she'd only drink 7-UP. So once I spiked her 7-UP and popped her cherry. I thought her religious beliefs were so stupid, so why not?

It's like this time I put bits of pork into a rabbi's matzoball soup. He was furious but I thought it was funny. What's the big deal with pork? Fuck him.

I do feel sort of bad about the time I held down a rastafarian and shaved his dreads. But then, it's just hair. Gimme a break.

As far as I'm concerned, the best way to deal with boneheaded intolerance is to be even more intolerant. Right? Right?

step 1:

step 2:


your tax dollars are already killing thousands of children with drone strikes, yr ethics are pathetic and you're full of shit :) i'm glad you aren't important enough to have your arrogance and disrespect of freedom of thought and other cultures actually affect anybody because you're a scary ass modern nazi masquerading as some kinda freethinking liberal

[quote=!@#$%!]so the frenchies got killed for publishing stereotypical cartoons of nobody in particular? a bit harsh...



how many pictures making fun of europeans is there when they force kurds to do their dirty work and blame it on them? the only reason anyone would care about that less than some french guy dying is the following : racism

by the way robinstigator the next time you wanna back up your hateful bullshit some rant about how religion is wrong remember this

i'm not religious and find you fucking disgusting and stupid and i'm embarassed to have the same views as such an absolute egomaniac and bigot. an atheist version of the witchfinder general is how you act


oh by the way generally the people who say things like "humanity needs to" are the ones who start religions or things like the ku klux klan, you have the same extreme arrogance of someone like jim jones you're just lacking any semblance of original ideas

i don't understand exactly what you're saying but there's always some greater evil to minimize the evil at hand

the issue here is: 12 journalists got killed in the name of religion for making cartoons.

yeah, I also rail against my government using my tax dollars to kill. always have always will. do a search. learn before you accuse.

And literally hundreds of millions of Muslims wanted to throw up when they heard about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybo...w_Mohammed_Day

that's great. now let us all post pictures of mohammed.

pimples is a good example of what racism means to white rich anglosphere liberals - its a prohibition on expression of the fact that at their core, all other humans in existence (except poor whites/conservatives) are not white anglosphere liberals or aspiring to turn into them.

is the idea that if we only dont express 'racism' against people who are murdering others due to gently mocking their non existent god then they'll be wowed by our moral superiority and see the (en)light(enment)?

because guess what. this is gonna be really really traumatizing for you anti racists (who are as i hope ive explained, actually severely and seriously racist) - muslims arent gonna become like us.

look at the polls. how many of them think death is a suitable punishment for leaving the faith?

how many of them think murder is a suitable punishment for depicting the paedo - sorry, prophet?

go look at the numbers. its quite high.

sorry for pointing this out - i know its highly troubling because it doesnt fit the narrative of the progressive moral evolution of all of humanity into clones of white rich post enlightenment liberals - but its true.

if you actually value things like free expression and liberal ethics, (try running a civilization without some form of the latter and see what happens) then you have to admit that muslims are capable of receiving the benefits of them but will never fully adopt them.

if a muslim majority took over a parliamentary democracy do you think they would leave our laws intact?

do you think they would allow freedom of expression when it comes to islam?

do you think they would treat women and minorities the same way we do?

they wouldn't and they've demonstrated that fact time and time again.

because - guess what - THEY HAVE DIFFERENCES TO US!

i know we CAN NEVER say such things because our racist conception of anti racism cannot cope with it but its true.

there's no magic secular teleology that's gonna make things otherwise. sorry. deal with it and stop defending and surrendering to barbarism.

more dead battery controversial blah blah blah.

Man, I don't wanna do research. Link for a poll? Frankly, I think ten is a disturbingly high number, but even for academic purposes I'd like to know the real number.

this is not exaclty the answer to those claims but look at fareed zakaria's op ed on the washington post right now. he argues that the koran does not even mention "blasphemy" (the bible does) but then he goes on to list all muslim-majority countries that have blasphemy laws, plus various figures of arrests, people on death row, etc.

eta: http://wapo.st/1zXY2PA

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one of zakaria's sources: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...and-blasphemy/

10%? try 64% http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...leaving-islam/

loads more stats here

my problem is with accommodating this backwardsness in the name of tolerance

do we want them to stay the same? is it a good thing that uk banks offer islamic finance options? no its fucking not. its not good that we try and accommodate them with halal food. we should be CORRUPTING their superstitions and beliefs. we should be forcing them to adapt to democratic norms, not giving up our values in the name of protecting their fantasies.

but in the name of anti racism and guilt over all the murderous atrocity and mayhem we've caused in their countries, too many people seem to want to excuse this barbarism. as if the satirists had it coming because they were racist.

isnt it racist to try and excuse muslims for these crimes as if they can't possibly help it and their ways need to be protected? really? do we think its a GOOD thing that they are too sensitive to have their religion mocked? something we want to encourage in the name of respect? that kind of attitude is absurd.

there are no muslim voices calling for a relaxing of iconoclasm, every single one ive seen on the news so far has been obfuscating and talking about debate being the answer. they arent saying 'we need to get over our non existent god'. they might condemn the violence but no muslim is ok with the cartoons existing.

that leads back to the pew research center and the figure for egypt is 88% favoring the death penalty for apostasy. what in the living fuck.

eta- anyway here is the link to the pew study:

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/0...ull-report.pdf


i saw that site while searching news today but it didn't seem like a trustworthy/impartial website.


i agree with that. now of course these are the chickens of colonialism coming home to roost-- but still, the implications for the future of liberal democracies and secular societies are pretty awful. yes, of course these systems are far from perfect but there are much worse ones.

so-- who the fuck here wants to live in a theocracy? if you do, please move to iran, sudan or saudi arabia and start living the dream *today*.

ps- those stats in the actual report are a bit more complex that the idiot newspaper summaries. but the number of egyptians who favor death for those who abandon islam is still pretty fucking high. a fuckload of pakistanis also favor stoning for adultery. nice!

Thanks for the legwork! The Pew was particularly interesting. I searched the word "death" and got a nuanced but mostly unsettling picture right away. At the moment it seems to me that religion has been converted (ha) by cunts into ideology, and doesn't necessarily condemn (ha) religion itself. "Necessarily," although it's obvious religion is a particularly useful tool for achieving ideological ends.



Actually, I meant ten people, and I'm sort of serious. There were cultures 2500 years ago more enlightened (and the Enlightenment hadn't even happened).


Is that really going around? "It's sad, sure, but..."

The ghost of Christopher Hitchens haunts me, and I'm actually a bit militant on the issue of ending this shit. More important than bullets, it would be nice to see some attempt to win over the next generation, which is the only way to win.

I only object to the one-dimensional portrait of a billion people. Also, religious expression is a recognized human right and talk of wiping it from the earth makes me queasy.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/4...zVSNDw.twitter

Replies from Muslim organizations around the world condemming the asshole idiots attacks in France

What people in general do not want to think about is that what is actually going on is a war of ideology. One side wants to try and bring the rest of the world into enlightenment, humanist, secular ideals, and the other wants to return the world to patriarchal, dogmatic, totalitarian control.

There are people who bring this up in the USA news or UK debates but they are shot down faster than shit.

of course the moderates will be outraged. the problem for me is not the moderates in any religion though, the problem is how extremists are allowed to fester in the name of religious freedom-- all religions have their fanatics.

but the bigger problem i have is that for every believer that says their religion is one of peace there is a history of religious warfare and carnage attached to each religion, plus the scripture to back up/justify it. smote this & that, bringing a sword, etc etc. judaism, christianity and islam have an extensive history of violence that cannot be denied. same thing with hinduism. zen buddhists supported japanese militarism in ww2.

i'm sorry but all religions are bullshit. their so-called message of peace is a velvet glove around an iron fist of power & control.

war is part of humanity of course so let's not just blame religion for it, but faith makes for the worst kind of excuses.

france had its own issues with religious wars & massacres which is why religion was removed from politics and public life by law a long time ago. which shocks some americans but it has worked for them. pray to whatever you want but please do it in private.

anyway i wish i could stay to read/reply more & try to think this out, but i have to get on the road & leave this sputum sample to be skewered on its own. thanks for the ears, replies, etc.

"History is a bloody testament that sincerity can achieve atrocities which cynicism could hardly conceive of." - Jack Parsons

"The sexual perversion of Christianity becomes obvious when it is realized that "The Holy Ghost" (The Sophia) is feminine. The very Tetragrammaton, Yod He Vau He, means: Father-Mother-Son-Daughter and asserts the splendor of the biological order. How could life proceed from a strictly masculine creation? What miracle could possibly be superior to the miracle of copulation, conception, and gestation? In the corrupt and demonic Jehovah, the priesthood blasphemed nature in order to perpetuate a tyrannical and superstitious patriarchy. Woman was insulted and affronted with the calumny of immaculate conception - then, by this mystery mongering, a premium was placed on moral and spiritual sterility. This sublimation of the sex-urge has been the basis of the power of the church and is the source of much of the psychosis rampant in the modern world." - Jack Parsons

"We must not only have freedom of religion, we must have freedom from religion." - Jack Parsons