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mushmanski57@hotmail.com 03.02.2007 09:44 PM

So do we figure they'll tour DDN?
 
Or at least a minitour where they play it in its entirety? Surely they wouldn't relearn all the songs and play it a mere 3 times...

Here's to hoping! :D

neptuneg 03.02.2007 09:45 PM

yes yes yes!!!

All Hail WATT 03.02.2007 11:21 PM

how about a warmup gig or two in may?

TheMadcapLaughs 03.03.2007 01:14 AM

They need to do it for us yankees too.

k-krack 03.03.2007 01:50 AM

How 'bout a fucking Toronto showing of it! I would actually fucking CRY if this happened. The notion of seeing Rain King and SIlver Rocket and 'Cross The Breeze live in a single night... mindblowing... *crying*

Everyneurotic 03.03.2007 06:59 PM

i really hope they don't.

dazedcola 03.03.2007 07:09 PM

i doubt they'll do a tour for just rehashing the DDN material but i think its likely that some of the lesser played DNN (rain king, hey joni, the sprawl, trilogy) might start to get incorporated into normal set list. It'd be weird for them to re-learn songs Thurston himself said are hard to play only to play them 3 times and then forget em.

Dead-Air 03.03.2007 10:31 PM

I doubt they will. They always play some of the songs, but I for one don't want them to be just another fucking '80s nostalgia act.

ohfuchsia 03.04.2007 12:50 AM

come on..do it in sydney, on the way to asia...on my birthday....

atari 2600 03.04.2007 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by k-krack
How 'bout a fucking Toronto showing of it! I would actually fucking CRY if this happened. The notion of seeing Rain King and SIlver Rocket and 'Cross The Breeze live in a single night... mindblowing... *crying*


That they would do one of the shows in Montreal seems reasonable.

Thurston told Watt in the phone interview (Watt from Pedro show 2/14) that they plan on doing a series of shows where they cover the entire album...in order.

Mike had asked about whether the setlist would be the same as the album sequencing, and then followed it up by musing if they were gonna also do Providence.

Everyone who listened to that interview I'm sure remembers that as a very engrossing and amusing part in particular...and Thurston affirmed that yes, they're gonna do Providence too.

I think it would be witty if Sonic Youth made a new Providence tape using some of this part of the phone interview, but then again, Providence is a real art piece so just maybe they won't be retooling as prescribed haha.

fluxequalsrad 03.04.2007 11:46 AM

Providence = Track without mike watt phone call Blasting through the moniters with Thurston playing with tapes and stuff? anyone?

They'll definately be playing some amazing stuff live this year. And we all know its only a matter of time before they relearn sometihng off of Washing Machine...right!?

Coachella better have some Murray Street stuff on the setlist.

Magic Wheel Memory 03.04.2007 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
I doubt they will. They always play some of the songs, but I for one don't want them to be just another fucking '80s nostalgia act.


A tour of Daydream Nation would hardly make them an 80's nostalgia act. They continue to put out new material and emphasize that material when they play live. A Daydream Nation tour would be a special side project. And remember that many of us were not old enough to see them the first time they toured behind that album.

hirsute_biped 03.04.2007 05:33 PM

west coast daydream too!

Dead-Air 03.04.2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory
A tour of Daydream Nation would hardly make them an 80's nostalgia act. They continue to put out new material and emphasize that material when they play live. A Daydream Nation tour would be a special side project. And remember that many of us were not old enough to see them the first time they toured behind that album.


The words: "And remember that many of us were not old enough to see them the first time they toured behind that album" prove wrong everything else you were asserting to that point.

Trust me, I don't think of Sonic Youth as even slightly close to a nostalgia group, but that's because they have carefully made the decision to continue to move forward and push the envelope. Playing all of Daydream one time through is a special side project, which is what they are doing. Touring on the laurels of record from two decades ago so that their younger fans can hear it as if it just came out yesterday is total Flock of Seagulls as far as I'm concerned, and I honestly don't think they would do that. You might have to settle for hearing two or three songs from it mixed in with other material from all of their career, which just doesn't strike me as anywhere close to a bad thing.

Magic Wheel Memory 03.05.2007 01:37 AM

Hey Dead-Air,

I respect your opinion, but this isn't really an argument over the meaning of "nostalgia." Instead, it's a debate over whether a tour of Daydream Nation would be desirable. I think it would be, simply because it's arguably their greatest record, and many of us never experienced it live. A tour would not suggest that it "just came out yesterday," but that it's a masterpiece worth revisiting.

Sonic Youth is one of those very unique bands for whom a large portion of their fanbase wasn't even born when their earlier work was released. You can't say that about A Flock of Seagulls.

Peace.

Dead-Air 03.05.2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory

Sonic Youth is one of those very unique bands for whom a large portion of their fanbase wasn't even born when their earlier work was released. You can't say that about A Flock of Seagulls.

Peace.


I can't? Then why do I hear their music playing in cafes full of people under 21 all of the time? There's nothing unique about a band having a large part of their fanbase born after their earlier work was released. The Beatles and Led Zeppelin come immediately to mind as groups that fit that description, and you could fill pages with more. That's what brought us the "Classic Rock" format years ago, and it is indeed all about nostalgia including for those who weren't there the first go around.

What makes Sonic Youth unique is that they by and large refuse to play into that and continue to release great records and side projects while revisiting the past as a secondary agenda item. Of course there are tons of fans who wish they'd tour on a record from two decades ago, there are even quite a few (and I'm not counting you among them, but they do exist) who would have them do nothing but tour on a record from two decades ago. More power to them for seeing that's not a good idea.

Ubiqridiculous 03.05.2007 05:52 PM

ffffff
 
Hoping they announce some summer NYC dates soon. I'm planning on a trip to Brooklyn this summer, and I want to coordinate it with an/some Sy show(s)!!!!

drrrtyboots 03.05.2007 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ubiqridiculous
Hoping they announce some summer NYC dates soon. I'm planning on a trip to Brooklyn this summer, and I want to coordinate it with an/some Sy show(s)!!!!

well, while you're in brooklyn check out some todd p shows. www.toddpnyc.com. by far the best show promoter in the city with a loyal base of fans and musicians alike.

timtimtim 03.05.2007 10:43 PM

I just want them to tour again and come through the chicao area.
However I would prefer if i wasn't a DDN tour, It's probably the album of their's that I listen to the least. And it's not because Im burnt out on it, I just never got into as much as ttheir other work.

neptuneg 03.05.2007 11:09 PM

I want DDN to be played in New York. Twice.

Magic Wheel Memory 03.06.2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
I can't? Then why do I hear their music playing in cafes full of people under 21 all of the time? There's nothing unique about a band having a large part of their fanbase born after their earlier work was released. The Beatles and Led Zeppelin come immediately to mind as groups that fit that description, and you could fill pages with more.


Tell those kids in the cafes that Flock of Seagulls are playing in town, and how many of them will shell out $20+ to go see them? As for the Beatles, Zeppelin and other classic rock groups, OK, you have a point. I think we agree that SY has not rested on its laurels and continues to move forward.

So, why it's not a good idea to do a Daydream Nation tour, I don't understand. What's wrong with giving people a chance to hear great music that they haven't heard before? Rhys Chatham just did a tour of Guitar Trio, 30 years after its release. I saw it in Brooklyn, and it was great. Revisiting your past once in a while may be nostalgic by definition, but it no more makes you a "nostalgia act" than cooking an occasional meal makes you a "chef."

mushmanski57@hotmail.com 03.06.2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory
Tell those kids in the cafes that Flock of Seagulls are playing in town, and how many of them will shell out $20+ to go see them? As for the Beatles, Zeppelin and other classic rock groups, OK, you have a point. I think we agree that SY has not rested on its laurels and continues to move forward.

So, why it's not a good idea to do a Daydream Nation tour, I don't understand. What's wrong with giving people a chance to hear great music that they haven't heard before? Rhys Chatham just did a tour of Guitar Trio, 30 years after its release. I saw it in Brooklyn, and it was great. Revisiting your past once in a while may be nostalgic by definition, but it no more makes you a "nostalgia act" than cooking an occasional meal makes you a "chef."


Agreed 100%. :D

drrrtyboots 03.06.2007 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by neptuneg
I want DDN to be played in New York. Twice.

you could always see bright eyes one of the SEVEN nights he's playing town hall in may. seven? is that ridiculous or am i drunk?

neptuneg 03.06.2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by drrrtyboots
you could always see bright eyes one of the SEVEN nights he's playing town hall in may. seven? is that ridiculous or am i drunk?


that is insane. the arcade fire played like five shows in a row two weeks ago. it sold out before i could get tickets. Sonic Youth should do that.

Rob Instigator 03.07.2007 10:49 AM

I would like to hear the entirety of DDn in conce4rt. Sonic Youth shoul do it like Phish where they pl;ay a one hour set then take a break then play a two hour set.
No opening band!!!!

Dead-Air 03.07.2007 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Wheel Memory
Tell those kids in the cafes that Flock of Seagulls are playing in town, and how many of them will shell out $20+ to go see them? As for the Beatles, Zeppelin and other classic rock groups, OK, you have a point. I think we agree that SY has not rested on its laurels and continues to move forward.

So, why it's not a good idea to do a Daydream Nation tour, I don't understand. What's wrong with giving people a chance to hear great music that they haven't heard before? Rhys Chatham just did a tour of Guitar Trio, 30 years after its release. I saw it in Brooklyn, and it was great. Revisiting your past once in a while may be nostalgic by definition, but it no more makes you a "nostalgia act" than cooking an occasional meal makes you a "chef."


Well, I for one would actually be dissapointed to be at a Sonic Youth show and know song for song what they were going to play and what every note sounded like.

I saw them on the original tour for Daydream Nation, and it wasn't like that then. They played other material, which of course wouldn't make sense if they did a tour of that album today.

The great thing about seeing them live is wondering what will happen next and if they might play one of your favorite songs. They usually do too. They play 2-4 songs off of Daydream Nation all of the time. They also play songs off of Sister, which is great for me, since the one tour I've missed since 1985 was Sister because they played a bar in Seattle a month before I turned 21. Does that mean I wish they'd go out again and tour that album all over again two decades later instead of doing new stuff? Uh, no.

Magic Wheel Memory 03.07.2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Does that mean I wish they'd go out again and tour that album all over again two decades later instead of doing new stuff? Uh, no.


Why would a tour of Daydream Nation be "instead of" anything? They did their Rather Ripped tour last year, and if they follow their pattern, they will have a new album and supporting tour in 2008. A tour of Daydream Nation, if they did it this year, would be an extra bonus or a "special project," if you will.

Regarding their normal, post-album tours, I agree with everything you said. If they played Daydream Nation in its entirety while touring after a new album, then I would be disappointed. I was even disappointed that Rather Ripped was played sequentially at CBGB this year. (But it was still a great show! :) )

neptuneg 03.07.2007 07:58 PM

The fact that they have the motivation to relearn all of DDN and play it amazes me. I think it's great. I'm actually incredibly happy that they're [hopefully] touring it. I would honestly be disappointed if all the band did was move forward-which they clearly don't. I mean, they DO move forward, but that obviously isn't the only thing they do-they always bring back old songs.

Rob Instigator 03.08.2007 12:17 AM

sonic youth rule all daydream nation rules all let it happen!!!!

EvdWee 03.08.2007 01:24 PM

damn:

June 16 Wiesbaden, Germany Schlachthof
June 21 Munich, Germany Tollwood Festival Performing Daydream Nation
June 23 Neuhausen, Germany Southside Festival
June 24 Scheessel, Germany Hurricane Festival
June 26 Koln, Germany E Werk
June 27 Berlin, Germany Columbia Halle Performing Daydream Nation

Feelyat 03.08.2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Does that mean I wish they'd go out again and tour that album all over again two decades later instead of doing new stuff? Uh, no.


OK man, we get it. You don't want to see it, you don't want it to happen. You've totally convinced everyone here that you don't want it to happen. Got it.

Spiritual Amnesia 03.08.2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EvdWee
damn:

June 16 Wiesbaden, Germany Schlachthof
June 21 Munich, Germany Tollwood Festival Performing Daydream Nation
June 23 Neuhausen, Germany Southside Festival
June 24 Scheessel, Germany Hurricane Festival
June 26 Koln, Germany E Werk
June 27 Berlin, Germany Columbia Halle Performing Daydream Nation



hell yeah, munich !!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a great day.............

nicfit 03.09.2007 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EvdWee
damn:

June 16 Wiesbaden, Germany Schlachthof
June 21 Munich, Germany Tollwood Festival Performing Daydream Nation
June 23 Neuhausen, Germany Southside Festival
June 24 Scheessel, Germany Hurricane Festival
June 26 Koln, Germany E Werk
June 27 Berlin, Germany Columbia Halle Performing Daydream Nation


Damn, _slavo_ could save loads of money.... :eek:
Now if they won't play a DDN gig in italy I'll be not happy.

Alexander 03.09.2007 08:16 AM

A full-scale tour of Daydream Nation would be unlikely, but you never know. Sonic Youth have always been a prolific group, acredited for their spontaneity and innovativness. I think thats why we're all here right now. So, I say... anything can happen.

sonicl 03.09.2007 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander
Sonic Youth have always been a prolific group, acredited for their spontaneity and innovativness.

There would be nothing spontaneous or innovative about a full-scale Daydream Nation tour. It would actually be the LEAST spontaneous / innovative thing that the band could possibly do.

Nothing personal intended there, Alexander, I just happen to think that a DDN rehash tour would be a very bad idea.

timtimtim 03.12.2007 01:33 AM

There's an ATP in chicago and pitchfork said there will be a big band on it.
I'm hoping it's sonic youth.

_slavo_ 03.12.2007 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit
Damn, _slavo_ could save loads of money.... :eek:
Now if they won't play a DDN gig in italy I'll be not happy.


well not really, I'm not that keen on festivals. and what's more, it's gonna be a hell of a weekend in London, so I'm pretty excited about it.

nicfit 03.12.2007 04:59 AM

You're right, I was kidding (almost)...even if the columbia halle is not a festival :) .

_tunic_ 03.14.2007 03:23 PM

hey,

have you already checked the prices for the German shows? I was wanting to go to Koln but 36,50 EUR !!?? And then that eventim.de site adds 15,90 EUR for shipping and handling which gives me a total bill of
52,40 EUR :eek::fuckyou::eek: for just 1 (one) ticket

I would love to see SY play DDN but for that sum of money I could almost plan a two week holiday !


edit:
here's another booking site if you're german: https://www.muensterland-ticket.de
they sell the tickets for a couple euros cheaper with less extra costs, but they don't seem to accept foreigners....

Spiritual Amnesia 03.14.2007 03:43 PM

the show in munich costs 30€.


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