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hey alex 02.08.2007 11:30 PM

Comic youthers of the board--- ASSEMBLE!
 
HEy--
SO in recent days, months, I've discovered an otherwise forgotten and malnutured aspect of my enjoyment and personality and otherwise(eyes eyes{!})... And that is comics.

I think it was coming across Mitch Clem's comics (san antonio rock city, nothing nice to say) which not only rekindled my stories with pretty pictures adoration, they catered to my other rediscovered love, punk rock. And then I found more online comics- Joe and Monkey, Wigu/Overcompensating, Joe loves crappy movies -- I already loved achewood and married to the sea. And it got me thinking to make comics as well, and I've been drawing out things for my enjoyment and maybe eventual a pitch at the fabulous life of a webcomic cartoonist-- but that relies on a scanner and a computer that isn't rusted on the bottom (a long story involving a waterlogged floor).

And now where do you folk come in? What could be the purpose of such a post, a topic from this otherwise two-steps-away-from-a-lurker-boardie?


What comics do you all like?

Internet and paper. Underground humor, good action, great art, eroticon (ha!) I went to the comic shop today and looked around, then realized I didn't know where to start (other than Watchmen) and then realized I was going to be late for an oil change appoitment.

Is this where you come in? You are on a msg board, so you may be a geek-- but are you <i>this</i> kind of geek? ANd I am going to be? I can only... wonder.

finding nobody 02.08.2007 11:37 PM

Sometimes I go to comic store in town and buy some of their cheap stuff. (5 for a dollar!)
You never quite know what you'll find. I've gotten some old Disney ones, Super Goof was pretty good.. I like funny comics and action ones also. Pitt was another good one

hey alex 02.08.2007 11:59 PM

I cam across a small colelction book called underground and it was a bunch of nonsequiter wierdness-- almost got it except i cou;dn't plunk down 14$ on a whim--- i guess random hunting's as good an idea as any

Inhuman 02.09.2007 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hey alex
but are you <i>this</i> kind of geek?


Bingo. I work on <h1 style="font-size:A JILLION;">web development</h1> 10 hours a day, every day.

I'll start off by saying your first post was a good read, and the board would be a better place if all the threads were as this one is.

I read quite a few comics, and I have picked up interest in them quite a bit lately. I know a common reply would be "Calvin and Hobbes", but I think it's essential to inform children about imagination and the importance of it. It's a great comic and brings up a lot of great pointers about life itself.

Another one of my favorites is Quimby the Mouse; it's hard to find but is really worth the search looking for. It's 1-150 strips on each page, so some of them are nearly all action-oriented because they can't fit the text, but makes it all the more interesting.

For humor, I go with http://www.angryflower.com/ . Bob the angry flower can be absolutely hilarious at times, and sometimes very mild. A lot of the ideas are completely out of the blue, it really grabs your attention. http://www.angryflower.com/blut.html

Questionable content.
http://questionablecontent.net/#
It's a web comic about indie (rock) culture. Some of them are excellent, but takes a little while before you find one that's hilarious. Has strips about how Sonic Youth's newer albums are "too mellow" too.

I'd like some good comic recommendations too, I need something to take my eyes off a screen.

noumenal 02.09.2007 12:27 AM

Migraine Boy:

http://www.gregfiering.com/migraineboy/

It's not really that funny, but I like it for some reason.

youthoftomorrow 02.09.2007 12:28 AM

check out http://www.drmcninja.com. Dr. McNinja is a doctor who is also a ninja. it's one of the funniest things i've ever read. don't start with the last page, everything is in stories. go to the archive and read the first or second story first.

i second Questionable Content.

as for physical comics, Jhonen Vasquez would be my recommendation. "Johnny the Homicidal Maniac" is disgusting, slightly disturbing and hilarious.

also, if you can find them, comics by a guy named Jeff LeVine are great. i'm not sure if he's still working, i've only got one book of his, "The Days Go By Like Broken Records."

plus X-Men. gotta love the X-Men.

hey alex 02.09.2007 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman
I read quite a few comics, and I have picked up interest in them quite a bit lately. I know a common reply would be "Calvin and Hobbes", but I think it's essential to inform children about imagination and the importance of it. It's a great comic and brings up a lot of great pointers about life itself.


I'll just say as a kid I had stuffed tiger named hobbes... and that was my avatar here for a few months ('fore this one)
Also thanks for the kind words on my post. I Like writting before thinking and seeing what sticks... and Kerouac is about the only author I've read in the past couple o' months... I'm moving to Bukowski next, or maybe the book "the paper people".

I've read a few questionable contents... the frist one i ever read I found on stumbleupon... it involved a tiny robot zippin past the screenw ith panties on it's head saying it was the 'panty gnome' or some such shit. Then a girl said "that's random even for QC"... at that moment I gained instant dislike of the comic because it was a shitty strip... and the art was poor... but Later I checked out some later ones and they were waaay better, art also better.

I'll get around to checkin out some of these suggestions, probably tomorrow. I gottsta sleep for work. Quimby the mouse sounds pretty cool too.

hey alex 02.09.2007 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kegmama
I am an evil wife and sold all Kegpapa's comics a few years ago on eBay. He had some really rare ones too. It was just too much with our record/music collections, the art collection and his insane Star Wars collection too. The SW shit is worth a lot. Like enough to hopefully be really beneficial for the kids one day...

It's a good thing most of the stuff I own isn't worth anything. There's no monetary reason to part with it... the downside is that I have no reason to get rid of that damn 'aeroplane flies high' box set. IF anything, it looks cool... if somehting, it's 5 lame smashing pumpkins singles. ANyone want a spirally box set?

krastian 02.09.2007 01:32 AM

I have Spawn number one if you want to buy it for a million dollars.

ALIEN ANAL 02.09.2007 04:06 AM

i collect Action Comics Superman every time the new one is in. really rad art and im a superman fan

king_buzzo 02.09.2007 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL
i collect Action Comics Superman every time the new one is in. really rad art and im a superman fan


same here, but not superman. i used to collect some spiderman issues, i've got a few rare ones

Toilet & Bowels 02.09.2007 09:57 AM

i like comics and i read more comics than "real" books

jon boy 02.09.2007 09:58 AM

shouldnt you say graphic novels?

Toilet & Bowels 02.09.2007 10:01 AM

no. "graphic novels" is what people who are insecure about the fact they are reading comics say. it's kind of like when the wire call rock music Avant Rock, just so they can feel like they are more intelligent.

Savage Clone 02.09.2007 10:03 AM

I like "underground" type comics a lot. In the early 90s I was eating that stuff up like candy, and I still like to indulge to this day.


Edit:
Some faves-

Dame Darcy
Renee French
Ivan Brunetti
Dave McKean
Dennis Worden
Peter Bagge

Toilet & Bowels 02.09.2007 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I like "underground" type comics a lot. In the early 90s I was eating that stuff up like candy, and I still like to indulge to this day.


same, anything that isn't the same as the next thing, but having said that i am partial to a bit of x-men.

Savage Clone 02.09.2007 10:08 AM

I still have all my X-Men comics from the early 80s.

Toilet & Bowels 02.09.2007 10:13 AM

hernandez bros
james kochalka
charles burns
krazy kat
secret comics japan
dan clowes
chris ware
yoshihiro tatsumi
tony millionaire
joe sacco (political stuff only)

Toilet & Bowels 02.09.2007 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I still have all my X-Men comics from the early 80s.


really? what period is that, when storm had a mohican? (mohican storm era is my favourite)

Savage Clone 02.09.2007 10:18 AM

I actually was into it slightly before and during the "Storm mohican" era. I have the one where she first got that haircut.

Toilet & Bowels 02.09.2007 10:31 AM

awesome! it was great how when she lost her powers she shaved her head and became even more forbidable than before

Rob Instigator 02.09.2007 10:41 AM

Graphic Novels is a valid term. it is a fully self enclosed work, not a colletced series.

Will Eisner created the Graphic Novels and if you go to the library and get some of his stuf you will see. they are whole complete stories, intricate like novels, deep like a novel, but told in the graphic storytelling form.

"comic books" is an archaic term from when the first newspaper comic strips were colected together to forma voulme and sold back in the nineteen tens.

I have not read too much latrely, but I have a lot of favorites

I have the hardback edition of MAUS signed by Art Spiegelman. I read it every few years to remind me of whata mindblowingly fucking awesome work of art it is

I like the comic Bughouse, about jazz musicians who are drawn as bugs. very funny and real and odd.

I loev love LOVE the LOVE & ROCKETS comic books. I suggest everyone read all of them. they are fucking genius, abnd the hernandez brothers draw the hottest chicks this side of archie comics.

I collect all the Sandman,. some people do not like, but I love them. they are richer and denser and artsier and more mythologically REAL than most any other comic book out there. written with genius.

I love the Watchmen if anyone has not read it, it is the ultimate comic book deconstruction of th super hero mythos.

I love dark Night returns and DK2.

I love Frank Miller's SIN CITY. I collect thos ecomics. ther are pure insane manic sick genius.

One of my personal favorites which not too many people got into are the SHADOW comics done in the late 80's by DC. The first 6 were drawn by Bill seinkeqicz, one of my faves, and the rest were drawn by Kyle Baker. they are fucking sick twisted amoral insanity, a modern day u[pdate of The Shadow, my faviorite pulp character.
They are also really affordable to buy at comic stores or on Ebay. i recommend them highly.

I love batman of all types.

king_buzzo 02.09.2007 11:02 AM

in this one comic i have, its like from '69 its a spiderman stories issue, there's and add of arnie schwartzeneger for some muscle products. its so very funny

Пятхъдесят Шест 02.09.2007 04:08 PM

I've gone through my old comics recently. Good memories. I remember having any amount of money, and riding my bike to the comic book store (Ground Zero, was the name). I used to buy a lot of different Marvel titles, and the ineffable Maxx series.

hey alex 02.09.2007 04:36 PM

Is there a particular x-men series that's good, or is just going for the current stock a good idea? I'd imagine my step has a lot from the 70s/80s in the basement (i used to read a lot of his old spiderman comics)-- but Xmen I've only read the first few issues (i had a small reprint collec of the first 5 issues where they told of them coming into their powers in what not).

Whenever i used to have money I'd buy used cds. Got almost all of beck's music that way, but also a lot crap. that was part of the fun tho... because the next week you give it back and get something better, maybe.

Rob Instigator 02.09.2007 04:42 PM

I like the "pheonix saga" era x-men

hey alex 02.09.2007 04:49 PM

is that kind of where the movies were/are headed/heading?

Пятхъдесят Шест 02.09.2007 05:01 PM

I know nothing about the current Marvel Universe. I think some of the original X-Men were killed off though, I think.

I used to read Generation X, X-Force, and X-Calibur. Not so much the Uncanny books. Though they were all connected in some way or another.

No else read The Maxx?

king_buzzo 02.09.2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I like the "pheonix saga" era x-men


that one owns

Massenvernichtungswaffen 02.09.2007 05:26 PM

i miss comics. I don't think you can buy them here anymore. yea, I live in a void, I know.

youthoftomorrow 02.09.2007 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест
I know nothing about the current Marvel Universe. I think some of the original X-Men were killed off though, I think.


presently, there are two Marvel Universes. there's the normal one and there's the Ultimate Marvel universe (which i prefer). essentially, sales were slacking, so Marvel rebooted the entire universe with more badass art and cooler stories.

Inhuman 02.09.2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I collect all the Sandman,. some people do not like, but I love them. they are richer and denser and artsier and more mythologically REAL than most any other comic book out there. written with genius.


Good call on Sandman, it's a great one. I'm surprised I missed it in my previous post

Danny Himself 02.10.2007 09:28 AM

The title of this thread made me think of Johnny Five.

 

Stephanie! Cricket is not moving. Hurt. Disassembled. :[

hey alex 02.10.2007 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself
The title of this thread made me think of Johnny Five.


 

Stephanie! Cricket is not moving. Hurt. Disassembled. :[


ooooooh damn----
that brings me back like pepsi blue

finding nobody 02.11.2007 12:06 AM

 

My favorite comic superhero

2nd fave
 

hey alex 02.11.2007 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by finding nobody
 

My favorite comic superhero


Poor kid. He's runnign away from his worst fear but has no idea the hideous horrors of the beastman's crotch, about the faceplant him. His closet will evict the boogieman in it's favor.

lucyrulesok 02.11.2007 11:07 AM

Hmm....
I'm by no means an expert, but I do pick up the odd comic now and then (well, actually, more 'graphic novels').
Aside from lots already mentioned (dan clowes' stuff (esp. David Boring), watchmen, sandman, MAUS) I really like robert crumb (especially his one about blues musicians - i think called 'crumb draws the blues'), V for Vendetta, From Hell, American Splendor/Quitter.... Peanuts is always great, and you can pick up the little books pretty cheaply and easily from charity shops. I also recently read a comic called 'ripple' which was bizarre, and I don't really know what to make of it. Jeffrey Lewis' comic Guff/Fuff is uite good, but then I might only like it because I'm a big fan of his music. Who knows?

As for online comics I follow Achewood almost religiously, and occasionally look at the Perry Bible Fellowship, and Overcompensating.

I guess I would be more into it but for the expense and the fact that the people who work in comic shops are always really snooty with me and its a little soul destroying.

Bertrand 02.13.2007 05:18 AM

When I hear comics, I think of Marvel & stop there.
I relate to what a friend a mine once stated : what makes the price of those stories is that they are poorly drawn. And I would add that it can't be read, as it is stuffed with gross adds.
I base my views on very old comics. I stopped buying that stuff when I was 15.
I got to re-read some X-Men issues (in French, with less adds), and got puzzled by the Banshee talking about James Joyce! I wouldn't have expected that.

I tend to appreciate junk at times. And, looking for EC Comics covers on the net, I found a site loaded with comics covers from a loooong time ago.

And it made me laugh quite a lot, to see good guys who never made it, to see how rigidly drawn some heroes were in their youth (Wonder Woman in the 40ies).
And I chuckle at the lack of imagination of the authors (look at the covers of Jungle Comics and you'll see what I mean) - my brother used to like Comics and heroic fantasy and I never understood that, as he seemed to pick the ones where the only blatant input of the author was in the name of the characters, planets, spaceships and so on. Well, naming someone Oo-nag'arh doesn't bring much.

I think that what I like the most in these Comics is the thought that the artists would be ashamed of their work today. Noone in their right mind would buy without feeling bad comics like those portraying Japanese soldiers as ugly greenish-yellowish midgets beaten to a pulp by strong allies of the free world.
Racism shows also in Jungle Comics. This is amazing.

So here's the link :
http://bcotd.com/crypt.html

screamingskull 02.13.2007 05:36 AM

 

I love Adrian Tomine's 'Optic Nerve' series, i have issues 1-8 of them, im only missing issue 9, and he is currently writing issue 10.

 


And of course Daniel Clowes (who Tomine is a big fan of). I will always love Ghost World and Ice Haven.
 

Toilet & Bowels 02.13.2007 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by screamingskull
 

I love Adrian Tomine's 'Optic Nerve' series, i have issues 1-8 of them, im only missing issue 9, and he is currently writing issue 10.


 


And of course Daniel Clowes (who Tomine is a big fan of). I will always love Ghost World and Ice Haven.

 


if you're a fan of tomine you might be interested in this:

The Push Man & Other Stories

Yoshihiro Tatsumi

Legendary cartoonist Yoshihiro Tatsumi is the grandfather of alternative manga for the adult reader. Predating the advent of the literary graphic novel movement in the US by thirty years, Tatsumi created a library of literary comics that draws parallels with modern prose fiction and today’s alternative comics.

Designed and edited by one of today’s most popular cartoonists, Adrian Tomine, The Push Man and Other Stories is the debut volume in a groundbreaking new series that collects Tatsumi’s short stories about Japanese urban life. Tatsumi’s stories are simultaneously haunting, disturbing, and darkly humorous, commenting on the interplay between an overwhelming, bustling, crowded, modern society and the troubled emotional and sexual life of the individual.

A lone man travels the country, projecting pornographic films for private individuals while attempting to maintain a normal home life. A medical student lives a secret life as a sperm donor, and finds his world turned upside down when his donations are rejected by the fertility clinic. A young couple's marriage is irrevocably affected when a sewer rat takes up residence in their home. The lives of two men become intertwined when one hires the other to observe his sexual escapades through a telescope. An auto mechanic's obsession with a female TV personality turns fatal after a chance meeting between the two.

"What a revelation this book is. I'd no idea that long before writers like Haruki Murakami and Kenzo Kitakata, the work of Yoshihiro Tatsumi had so expertly peeled away the laquered layers of Japanese social and sexual surfaces to reveal the elemental heart beneath, and with such fearless depth of feeling. Decades ahead of its time and long overdue for US publication."
–Chip Kidd


"From the moment I read Tatsumi , he shot to the top of my short list of favorite cartoonists for adults. His direct story telling style is bracing and raises the bar pretty high for those of us trying to entertain intelligent grown ups."
–Gilbert Hernandez

"Tatsumi's comics are clean and straightforward without pretentious tricks. Storytelling at its best." –Jaime Hernandez

preview pdf
http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/ima...ac986cb638.pdf


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