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afterthefact 08.13.2007 10:03 PM

lucid dreams
 
anybody have these? anybody train for them? I'm going to try a technique for them this weekend, where you sleep for 5 hours, wake up, and for one hour think only about lucid dreaming. Then you go back to sleep thinking about wanting to have a lucid dream. In tests this has a 60% sucess rate.

SynthethicalY 08.13.2007 10:05 PM

60% is a very small amount.

Alex's Trip 08.13.2007 10:17 PM

I suck at even remembering my dreams?

nomowish 08.13.2007 11:15 PM

Why don't I ever question the weird things I see in dreams? I just go with them as if everything's normal. Maybe I don't ask enough questions when I'm awake. Rarely am I aware that I'm dreaming.

total-trash 08.13.2007 11:19 PM

for the first time the other night, i was aware that i was dreaming during a dream. i'd rather not be aware of it though.

usually my dreams aren't far fetched. but when i sleep in a different place or bed than i usually do, my dreams can get pretty insane.

phoenix 08.14.2007 03:02 AM

This used to really interest me, and I did have a couple. I suppose since I havent been focused on it for a while, it hasnt seemed to happen since then.

The idea is totally cool to me though.

I was able to make choices and things, knowing I was dreaming. i twas weird.

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by afterthefact
anybody have these? anybody train for them? I'm going to try a technique for them this weekend, where you sleep for 5 hours, wake up, and for one hour think only about lucid dreaming. Then you go back to sleep thinking about wanting to have a lucid dream. In tests this has a 60% sucess rate.



i think that's really stupid technique.. try to improve in trans technique..

phoenix 08.14.2007 03:39 AM

cuetzpalin I keep meaning to tell you how much I like yr avatar. I ADORE andy goldsworthy.
 

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 03:52 AM

ahhh thank you:) i adore him too

phoenix 08.14.2007 03:54 AM

Im going to make an andy thread. he deserves more love.

have you seen his dvd? its wonderful.

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 04:01 AM

you mean rivers and tides?

phoenix 08.14.2007 04:03 AM

yup!

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 04:47 AM

yeah that's amazing..

Washing Machine 08.14.2007 05:18 AM

wasnt there a thread about this a month ago?..

ZEROpumpkins 08.14.2007 06:54 AM

I used to have lucid dreams when I was younger. Now I just dream that I've woken up and i'm getting ready for school etc. Basically all my dreams are variations of this.

SynthethicalY 08.14.2007 06:55 AM

I only dream a pitch black void. Sometimes it is red, but then I awake and is the sun hitting my face.

ZEROpumpkins 08.14.2007 06:57 AM

Haha, that's why I like where my room is in my house. The window is towards the west. But sometimes the sun shines off the window of nextdoor and hits my eye.

Kloriel 08.14.2007 01:29 PM

I think this is a topic of debate among whoever the professionals are that study this sort of thing. If the eye movement measurement is valid, then it really is interesting. I haven't looked this stuff up in a while, but my impression is that the actual measurement taken that makes lucid dreaming anything more than a pipe dream is under heavy fire.

With that said, I've had maybe ten clear cut lucid dreams, as far as I know. Most of them were very brief and involved removing myself from a nightmare - but maybe three or four were longer lasting and more interesting.

This stuff needs to be taken with a grain of salt though. I mean if it was real, don't you think there would be actual flourishing lucid dream academies by now? I currently tend to lean towards the idea that you realize you are dreaming is still just a part of the dream and that no real awakening actually occurs.

atsonicpark 08.14.2007 02:46 PM

I Have Lucid Robo Dreamz

nomowish 08.14.2007 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloriel
I currently tend to lean towards the idea that you realize you are dreaming is still just a part of the dream and that no real awakening actually occurs.


Why?

alteredcourse 08.14.2007 03:16 PM

thats not a bad idea . whenevner i've realized that im dreaming while in one , ive actually done somethign about it once ( i flew, a pretty standard dream occurance ) . the other times, i continued to do as i was , or stopped doing anythign together , after which i scolded myself for being so boring . perhaps just thinkign that i was aware was all part of the dream then , and ive never actually lucidly dreamt .

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 03:18 PM

i do pretty frequently
i had one recently where someone came up to me and told me j. mascis died and in the dream i started flipping out and i went to his wikipedia page to see if it was true and i could walk around INSIDE it and it was like this big forest with all these weeping willows with a lake made out of cellophane and construction paper swans floating around and all these plasticine piggies roaming around. there were also nondescript words flying around in mid-air.

Alex's Trip 08.14.2007 03:19 PM

I've been trying to...all I've been able to do is realize in my dream "I'm not dreaming" when actually I am.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 05:06 PM

when you return to sleep after sleep deprivation it usually results in lucid dreaming

Kloriel 08.14.2007 05:12 PM

like in the same night or after a while?

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloriel
like in the same night or after a while?

like if you pull an all-nighter and go to bed at your normal time the next day.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel
the last dream i had was one of the most surreal ever. it involved thiery henry, my brothers girlfriend, a shootout with the skunk haired soprano actor, and a narrative on what makes the best zombi film endings the best, by simon pegg. it was only my first dream in months thanks to this night terror shite still effecting me so any dream is a blessing.

hahaha paulie walnuts

Toilet & Bowels 08.14.2007 05:33 PM

the other day i had a dream that i met a coven of satanic witches and one of them was performing a ritual to ask the devil what would be an appropriately satanic name for her new born child, the devil told her she should name her child Wayne Helmsley.

if you want to have weirder dreams drink a couple of glasses of this stuff before bed

 

Savage Clone 08.14.2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
the other day i had a dream that i met a coven of satanic witches and one of them was performing a ritual to ask the devil what would be an appropriately satanic name for her new born child, the devil told her she should name her child Wayne Helmsley.

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Actually, that was real.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
the other day i had a dream that i met a coven of satanic witches and one of them was performing a ritual to ask the devil what would be an appropriately satanic name for her new born child, the devil told her she should name her child Wayne Helmsley.

if you want to have weirder dreams drink a couple of glasses of this stuff before bed


 

doesn't that have wormwood in it? so it would be illegal in the united states?

Toilet & Bowels 08.14.2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Actually, that was real.


i wish

Toilet & Bowels 08.14.2007 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
doesn't that have wormwood in it? so it would be illegal in the united states?


apparently it does
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelinkovac

don't know anything about legality in the states though, not that you're over 21 yet anyway.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
apparently it does
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelinkovac

don't know anything about legality in the states though, not that you're over 21 yet anyway.

like that would ever stop me.

SynthethicalY 08.14.2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
when you return to sleep after sleep deprivation it usually results in lucid dreaming


Liar, I had no such experience.

Toilet & Bowels 08.14.2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
like that would ever stop me.


well maybe you can find a shop that sells it in new york, and then pay an adult to buy you some

sarramkrop 08.14.2007 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel
i've heard alot about it's cousin jagermeister, supposed to be lush in germany. if it brings dreams then bring it on.


Jagermeister is a good drink, but the dreams that come by drinking loads of it are of the shattered variety.

Green_mind 08.14.2007 07:11 PM

Eating cheese before bed supposedly induces dreams, strange myth. I've had a few experiences of lucid dreaming, only seems to occur when something in the dream strikes as too surreal, something that doesn't add up in reality, like the ability to fly or lay eggs may be. The other times I experienced it, I believe it was triggered by these repetitive dreams I was having, I would suddenly remember mid dream, "hey, I've had this dream before".
I always find my dreams end badly, terribly even, even though I want a nice ending. I think this is because of all the gruesome horror movies I saw at a very young age with my older cousin.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Diesel
i've heard alot about it's cousin jagermeister, supposed to be lush in germany. if it brings dreams then bring it on.

jager is gross
tastes like coough syrup

Kloriel 08.14.2007 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green_mind
Eating cheese before bed supposedly induces dreams, strange myth. I've had a few experiences of lucid dreaming, only seems to occur when something in the dream strikes as too surreal, something that doesn't add up in reality, like the ability to fly or lay eggs may be. The other times I experienced it, I believe it was triggered by these repetitive dreams I was having, I would suddenly remember mid dream, "hey, I've had this dream before".
I always find my dreams end badly, terribly even, even though I want a nice ending. I think this is because of all the gruesome horror movies I saw at a very young age with my older cousin.



well I dunno about the horror movies, but as far as triggering lucid dreams goes -

the word on the street (pillow?) is that if, while in your dream, you come across say a lightswitch - it will not work right in your dream. So if you flick it on/off that is a prime trigger to become lucid. There are tons of other ones too. Supposedly you can't read text in a dream - so if you see text, then BAM enter lucidity.

There really isn't much evidence for all of this though. Dreams are very capable of deceiving you to the point where you think you are awake and 'in control' - and while that dream might be the most interesting one you'll have in six months, it means very little if it (the phenomenon) can't be reproduced regularly.

and wormwood / absinthe is illegal in the states, yes.

Cantankerous 08.14.2007 10:08 PM

ah i thought so
interesting theory/info on the lucid dreams too


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