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Genteel Death 05.06.2010 07:07 PM

Zola Jesus
 
From being ok to being plain crap. Am I the only one?

Toilet & Bowels 05.06.2010 07:29 PM

they played one of her new songs on monday night before viv albertine came on, it was a bit crap, it's a shame because i loved her first two singles. my friend thinks she turned crap because she split up form dead luke. she's touring the UK in september and my band are trying to get an opening slot.

Genteel Death 05.06.2010 07:42 PM

She's playing support for a popular Swedish band at the brix academy. By the time new amsterdam came out I sensed a decline in her creativity. Also, she's ordinary as fuck. Did you hear any new dead luke? He's trying to be pink reason, after hew did the sub-recorded german 80s thing. Anyway,fuck them, they seem like useless hipsters.

kierkegaarden 05.07.2010 01:28 AM

The only reason to listen to Zola Jesus might be "Nativity"

pokkeherrie 05.07.2010 01:58 AM

I've only heard one song from her new EP, but I didn't like it. It sounded much cleaner than her earlier stuff. Hope that's not a permanent thing.

dionysusundone 05.07.2010 02:21 AM

I like it but she's starting to lose a lot of her original audience I think. She may want it that way.

_slavo_ 05.07.2010 02:37 AM

I might be the only one with this opinion on here, but still I think "Stridulum" is her finest work to date, maybe with the exception of the first single.

dionysusundone 05.07.2010 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by _slavo_
I might be the only one with this opinion on here, but still I think "Stridulum" is her finest work to date, maybe with the exception of the first single.


No I actually agree. And the whole thing's great to me, not even sure which one the single was. I just bought this on vinyl today after waiting forever for the store to get more copies in.

Decayed Rhapsody 05.07.2010 08:56 AM

I've no problem with people slickening things if the songs are there. But I'm not hearing that. I never really liked her to begin with. And that Pitchfork interview where she starts dropping situationism really turned me off.

batreleaser 05.07.2010 01:26 PM

Speaking of Pink Reason, when the hell is the follow up to "Cleaning the Mirror" going to come out?

Toilet & Bowels 05.07.2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
Speaking of Pink Reason, when the hell is the follow up to "Cleaning the Mirror" going to come out?


seriously

Genteel Death 07.18.2010 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
Speaking of Pink Reason, when the hell is the follow up to "Cleaning the Mirror" going to come out?

Pretty soon, apparently.

atsonicpark 07.18.2010 04:13 AM

YES!

the ikara cult 07.19.2010 02:40 PM

not plain crap, thats a bit unfair. Ive enjoyed the recent stuff ive heard, just like i enjoyed New Amsterdam, though ive notlistened to the latest EP with the hair over the face cover.

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 03:19 PM

Gianfranco Zola Jesus is officially famous now. She was on the radio the other day, the Evening Standard had an article about witch house on it last Friday with pics and mentions of her, I've heard people discussing her on the street a few times.
The ES calls her witch house.

_slavo_ 11.23.2010 03:23 PM

yes, that's what I was thinking too. She's got nothing to do with 'witch house'

Decayed Rhapsody 11.23.2010 03:35 PM

I predicted this. She's got all the right grooming and goth poses.

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 03:39 PM

Why does she not make a decent pop record and drop this stupid buffy shit already?

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody
I predicted this. She's got all the right grooming and goth poses.

She's becomin really popular with the gays because of her lack of decent tits too. *
*I'm obviously free to make sexist comments about female body parts because I'm homosexually inclined.

pokkeherrie 11.23.2010 03:45 PM

If you go to the HMV on Oxford Street, they have a rack with "the best of 2010" and the picture they used for the "best of 2010" logo was Zola Jesus.

They had Afrirampo in the best of 2010 rack too, mind. I was surprised.

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
If you go to the HMV on Oxford Street, they have a rack with "the best of 2010" and the picture they used for the "best of 2010" logo was Zola Jesus.

They had Afrirampo in the best of 2010 rack too, mind. I was surprised.

And a Whitehouse record with a cock on the sleeve + the White Hills/Gnod split too!

Decayed Rhapsody 11.23.2010 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
She's becomin really popular with the gays because of her lack of decent tits too. *
*I'm obviously free to make sexist comments about female body parts because I'm homosexually inclined.


You're a homosexual? awesome, let's bang. not many fags are into the stuff we're into.

The homos are into her solely because she could be on a Buffy soundtrack.

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody
You're a homosexual? awesome, let's bang. not many fags are into the stuff we're into.

The homos are into her solely because she could be on a Buffy soundtrack.

More because she's the new Siouxie, apparently. Like the old one won't do.

Genteel Death 11.23.2010 06:24 PM

I was wondering, is she a middle class or higher person making music in 2010? Is she bored?

knox 11.23.2010 08:32 PM

I think some tracks are pretty interesting, but somehow it all seems unfinished, and I don't mean in a lo-fi way because her first tracks were better than the new ones, I just mean melodically. She's quite young so she might deliver something in the future, there's a lot of potential there but I don't get all the fuss honestly.

kinn 11.23.2010 08:37 PM

she's getting worse with time.

the song odessa is great but for her the album she rerecorded it and made it worse.

too much 80's pop nostalgia. too much "i want to be srs like maddonna lol".

knox 11.23.2010 10:18 PM

but, you know, maybe in the future.
i think the kids need some gothness anyway.

Toilet & Bowels 11.24.2010 02:54 AM

what's witch house?

too bad i didn't buy doubles of her first couple of 7"s, they probably go for £££ on ebay now

_slavo_ 11.24.2010 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
what's witch house?


this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0zYm...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Y-s...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHL-Q...eature=related

basically, projects with hard-to-decipher names, synth-based sound and mysterious aura around them. shit, if you ask me.

Genteel Death 11.24.2010 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
She's quite young so she might deliver something in the future,


that's NEVER a good excuse

knox 11.24.2010 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
that's NEVER a good excuse


Don't know. Some artists are good from the start, but some of my favs really kind of sucked in the beginning. It might not be her fault that people are paying too much attention to it so soon.

Genteel Death 11.24.2010 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
Don't know. Some artists are good from the start, but some of my favs really kind of sucked in the beginning. It might not be her fault that people are paying too much attention to it so soon.


from what i've read coming from people who know her, lived with her and even played on her records, she had a knack for all things pr from the start. and that's ok, whatever. If you are conscious enough to put several records out of mediocre music, you're old enough to know what you're doing. besides, save for some rare cases, if it takes you so many releases to produce something that doesn't even sound brilliant surely you aint good enough.

knox 11.24.2010 10:26 AM

It's not like her music is bad. Not at all. I enjoy listening to it sometimes. So if she's promoting herself, good for her.

I don't know, I love Evangelista and as far as I know (because I am not really into the Geraldine Fibbers) it has taken her over 15 years to sound brilliant, in my opinion.

I actually think it's kind of scary when someone sounds too good from the start - they tend to not be able to carry on.


It's not the same for everybody. Anyone can come up with good or bad surprises. Normallly, I don't trust artists that never fail.

But I'm not talking about her. She could definitely improve, as much as she can carry on doing this until everyone gets tired of it.

Genteel Death 11.24.2010 12:15 PM

Well,with that in mind, in Zola Jesus' case she started good(ish) and progressively made lamer records. that's her sorted then.

Marolo 11.24.2010 02:16 PM

I'm really enjoying the LA Vampires & Zola Jesus EP that came out a few months ago. Very dubby and they do a great cover of the reggae classic No No No (You Don't Love Me).

I'm a homo too by the way LOL

knox 11.24.2010 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
Well,with that in mind, in Zola Jesus' case she started good(ish) and progressively made lamer records. that's her sorted then.


I know. But I have some hope.

Toilet & Bowels 11.24.2010 03:21 PM

i can think of bands that got a lot better after they started, i can think of bands that started good and became worse, but i can't think of any bands that started good, got worse and then became good again, especially if they became more popular onece they became worse as is the case with Zole J.
It was obvious though that on the strength of her voice that she would become big, it's only in hindsight that it's obvious that turning rubbish facilitated her rise in popularity

kinn 11.24.2010 04:01 PM

miss world

knox 11.24.2010 04:11 PM

that was a waste of my time.

kinn 11.24.2010 04:19 PM

what the fuck else were you gonna use it for?

90's nostalgia?
threads about your pms?
threads about you whining about your life?

so soz i spared the world another masterpiece


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