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Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 12:31 PM

So many ladies
 
If you love studious and strikingly beautiful Indian and Pakistani ladies, the University of Houston library is for you. Trust me.

gast30 01.23.2013 12:49 PM

latin, japanees, american and italians are hot types i find

gast30 01.23.2013 12:51 PM

you kno what rob
i send you my email and then you place it in the library where the hottest chiks are mostly concentrated

and see what happens
what multiversum there might be opened

Dude McDude 01.23.2013 01:17 PM

I hear ya. Studying at libraries never worked for me, though. Too many distractions.

floatingslowly 01.23.2013 01:21 PM

Say hi to laila, k?

Love,

Robin Hoof

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 02:11 PM

Not allowed to film or photograph inside library. Policy dictates that everyone is free to read what they want without anyone knowing.

There is a form to fill out for those that want to film and photograph in library, and they need to bring their own "actors>"

knox 01.23.2013 03:00 PM

this is exactly the type of sexist shit that makes you guys unable to say there are 'so many ladies' on syg

and the idea of taking pictures of women when they are unaware of it so you snd your friends can do some male bonding by objectifying them online is gross

thanks

knox 01.23.2013 03:03 PM

oh and a free lesson:
women: human beings
nationality/ethnicity: not a brand

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 03:03 PM

women objectify a nice juicy dong when they can. don't act so high and mighty.

what exactly is sexist about what was posted?

knox 01.23.2013 03:12 PM

oh the same argument again? a false equality based on exceptions?
does it ever occur to you that women go to the library to read, not to be objectified?
does it occur to you they dont exist to please you?
that their background shouldnt be categorized as a brand for your amusement?
that they deal with some degree of harrasment every day of their lives and are always afrad?

gast30 01.23.2013 03:16 PM

it's rob's fantasy world
no harm done to no one
no need for fear

knox 01.23.2013 03:17 PM

i mean this would be a lot less creepy if you just had that thought.
once again, nobody ever considers why there sre few women posting here.
this kind of thing makes it very unwelcoming for us
doesnt mens health have a board or something?

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 03:17 PM

by what criteria is glancing at someone you find attractive harrasment, or objectifying? Relax.
men go to the library too and you cannot tell me the women do not look at the handsome ones and chat about them.
You are too uptight about this stuff.

I personally find women from India to be some of the most beautiful that have ever existed. You telling me it is wrong to say so? That is ridiculous.

You assume we are fetishizing.

knox 01.23.2013 03:18 PM

who are you to decide whats harm?
my stomach turns thats harm

knox 01.23.2013 03:26 PM

are you mansplaing what i should feel upset about and telling me YOU get to decide when its valid for me to speak up? damn right im uptight. try being a woman and dealing with this shit everyday of your life.

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 03:30 PM

wha? chills. a question is a question.

feel upset all you want, but aim it at an appropriate target, not some sonic nerds talking about how they find Indian women beautiful.

louder 01.23.2013 03:33 PM

has she always been this annoying?

knox 01.23.2013 03:38 PM

more mansplaning.
the man says in a patronizing tone that the womsn should chill and shes aiming at the wrong target.
thats the usual script
did you take a class?

i just want you to know that every time you act this way and try to silence or ridicule a woman who dares speaking up, you are supporting a culture that oppresses thrm.

you will certaingly sugarcoat it because your male privilege makes you think there is noghing wrong with what you do but this is a fact.

knox 01.23.2013 03:40 PM

by the way dont ever say to an indian woman what you said here.
she might even smile but will just think youre a creep

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 03:46 PM

Speak all you want, I value your opinion.
I asked you to chills, but if you do not want to chills, then that is fine too.

You telling me that you KNOW for a fact that if I were to tell an Indian or Pakistani woman that she is beautiful and that she is more beautiful than a woman from other nations she would think I was a creep?

Houston texas, and especially the University of Houston, has so much ethnic and national diversity, so many people from all over the world, that it is a special place. To ask a man, any amn, not to appreciate the beauty that surrounds him, is asking him to not be a man. That will never happen.

I just don't understand why you took such offense.

The culture in India oppresses women, that i admit. it also oppresses poor people, mixed race people, and many just because of who their parents are. That is a long long way from a Puerto Rican living in the USA commenting on how beautiful the indian women are here.

floatingslowly 01.23.2013 03:47 PM

This is Rob's form of Goddess Worship.

His 'juicy dong' (blech) craves brown ladies, and their funcookers, which a fierceness few of us will ever know.

ITT: creepers lol

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 03:47 PM

The Persian women really take the cake though. Gorgeous eyes. beautiful brunette hair.

(please note that nothing I have said in this thread is sexual in any manner. YOU took it that way. Beauty is where Beauty is.)

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 03:49 PM

No mention from you knox on how I praised the studious ones. a good brain is the most beautiful organ a woman can have.

Genteel Death 01.23.2013 03:51 PM

Faggotsplaining is too long a word. Besides, I may end up sounding too patronising. Rob, just look at those Indie dicks. Hmmm...juicy.

knox 01.23.2013 03:53 PM

so many fucking cliches.
you really do think women enjoy having their ethnicity fetichized? dear lord.
being a man? whats that?
unlike you might have been told, women dont walk around wanting to be objectified by strangers. in fact it makes us feel very uncomfortable not being able to ride a bus or read a book without some creep staring or making comments.
appreciate with your mouth shut? this idea of manhood with the need of getting other males to participate in your objetification is whst baffles me.
this notion of yours that is natural for every man to want to do that needs to be reassessed.

knox 01.23.2013 03:55 PM

and if you really must, do it where women wont hear
because frankly its gross
unless ur more concerned about getting reassurance of your msnhood from other men than you are about how REAL women feel

louder 01.23.2013 03:56 PM

 

knox 01.23.2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
No mention from you knox on how I praised the studious ones. a good brain is the most beautiful organ a woman can have.

do you really expect me to applaud this patronizing comment?

knox 01.23.2013 03:58 PM

if you dont stop mansplaining and actually start listening to our perspective then u wont ever understand rob

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 04:07 PM

OK.

what is patronizing about being attracted to intelligence?

patronizing would be telling someone they are intelligent when all the while you are actually feeling superior to their intelligence. How do you read that in my statement?

Understanding your perspective is one thing, but you assign specific intent to my perspective, without attempting to understand it either. I call shenanigans on that bullshit.

louder 01.23.2013 04:12 PM

 

knox 01.23.2013 04:12 PM

basic lesson:
white people don't get to decide when someone has the right to feel something is racist or not
men don't get to decide when someone has the right to feel something is sexist or not
straight people don't get to decide when someone has the right to feel something is homophobic or not
I hope you get it, it's very simple.

Also, I've already explained everything in detail.
Please read again.
'Intent' is not always what matters, especially when we're talking about things that are deeply embedded in us.

One time I said something that offended someone on this forum, regarding their origin. It wasn't my intent at all to insult anyone in any way. However, this person was nice enough to express their feelings to me. What I felt didn't matter, I wasn't in their shoes. I was wrong, I'm still ashamed about it and I'm thankful that this person told me off. Only this person knows what it feels and regardless of my 'intent', I have no right to tell a person how to feel.

Genteel Death 01.23.2013 04:15 PM

 

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 04:17 PM

all you say is indeed simple and well and good and TRUE.

However, just because someone feels something is racist does not make it so. Just because someone feels something is sexist, or homophobic, does not make it so.

Freedom of speech is freedom of ideas, even ugly, repugnant ones.

Genteel Death 01.23.2013 04:18 PM

 

knox 01.23.2013 04:23 PM

I do understand the usual knee jerk reaction to what I'm saying, as it forces people to reassess their own notions of masculinity. However, saying "don't make women feel disrespected in a space you share with them" is fairly simple. I don't even want to get started on the racial/ethnicity thing because it'll get me angry. Just remember there are places in the world where women and their "ethinicity" are objectified to a point it creates a predatory industry of sex tourism and human trafficking. This should be enough for you to think.

What you think is a compliment may not be seen as one.

knox 01.23.2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
all you say is indeed simple and well and good and TRUE.

However, just because someone feels something is racist does not make it so. Just because someone feels something is sexist, or homophobic, does not make it so.

Freedom of speech is freedom of ideas, even ugly, repugnant ones.


It kind of does.
When people claim that, chances are it's true.

I'm tired of debating this neoliberal idea of "freedom of speech" that overrides that idea of "freedom of dignity". It's wrong. Freedom of speech is not freedom to be an asshole and get away with it.

However, if you think freedom means you have the right to say repugnant things, then I shall have the right to tell you how repugnant they are.

keep poppin pimples 01.23.2013 04:28 PM

i think it's a fine line between thinking a lot of indian women are pretty and having a weird racist fetish.

knox 01.23.2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
i think it's a fine line between thinking a lot of indian women are pretty and having a weird racist fetish.


And it's sort of something you'd wanna keep to yourself, considering how fine that line is and how easily people could get insulted.

Rob Instigator 01.23.2013 04:34 PM

I agree knox, but reassessing masculinity and femininity is a lot different from denying their existence.

The same way that a homosexual man should not be forced to explain why he is attracted to a male, a heterosexual man should not be forced to explain why he feels attracted to a female. These things are chemical, or biological, or whatever they are.

The sex industries and the human trafficking happen because of MONEY, pure and simple, and will continue to happen regardless of the enlightened mentality of any given country. That is sick as fuck, but the sick are out there, and willing to make a buck off of the suffering of anyone. Look at the Savile fucker and all his satanic sex cronies.
To lump in a man who finds a certain look on a female attractive with those who seek to pay money to engage in their perversions is a bit of a stretch.

in answer to your statement about compliments, What you think is derogatory may not be seen as that by a different woman. That does not mean that woman is dumb, or ignorant, or unenlightened, or brainwashed. It just meas that opinions differ.

I try to keep everyone in mind when I write on the SYforum, and only seek to offend those who like surf music...


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