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ann ashtray 11.11.2010 10:09 PM

African Americans ARE Americans before Africans. If you, Ni'k, have a vaild argument against that, please offer it.

Here's mine....

I'm born around mostly black people in Ethiopia. So are my kids. So are my grand kids, so are my great grand kids, I'm dead, my great-great- grandkids are born...are they more American than they are Ethiopian?

Gimmie a fucking break, please. BLACK AMERICANS INVENTED THE BLUES....why can't it be that simple, unless you feel like they were not Americans.

knox 11.11.2010 10:10 PM

suchfriends?

ann ashtray 11.11.2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
sway i know you mean well don't worry so much

i think you should go meet some blues musicians, they don't feel to over-intellectualise everything, they don't operate under the pretense that the world couldn't exist without them

the blues is a musical tradition that many newer artists borrow from, that has an interesting history. people like it. life is full of hardships and some people get joy out of blues that enriches their life. it can be fun to listen to or play with yr friends, it makes a good night out. there's lot's of awesome things about the blues. there's not point waging a pathetic war against non-blues or making outrageous claims,or using blues as a weapon to prove that knox hates black people. it has enough going for it already to not need this bullshit.

i think you should play, you should support the artists you like, share yr love of the blues with people you talk with(in a less pretentious manner). if you hear a good performance feel free to walk up to a talented bluesman and let them know that what they do means something to you.

there are so many ways to celebrate blues music and use it to enrich yr life.......


.......but you chose to make this thread


that's just the wrong way to go about blues appreciation


That's all my original post did. You (and the like) chose to make it what it has become. Surely, I can only retaliate.

ann ashtray 11.11.2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
suchfriends?


He considers african americans to be americans, don't worry.

(He's white by the way....+ also largely influenced by black music, including, but not limited to, the blues).


we've discussed it before.

:)

knox 11.11.2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
BLACK AMERICANS INVENTED THE BLUES....


isnt that what i said?

knox 11.11.2010 10:12 PM

oh well as far is i know everyone born in that territory is an american citizen. how does that relate to anything you've been saying? idk

ann ashtray 11.11.2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
isnt that what i said?


No, you said "they", not "you"...as if I said I invented it.

Also, as if they were something else other than americans.

Don't try and dig yrself out of this one.

knox 11.11.2010 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ann ashtray
No, you said "they", not "you"...as if I said I invented it.

Also, as if they were something else other than americans.

Don't try and dig yrself out of this one.


lol.
I just said YOU have no reason to be proud.

"don't dig yourself out of this one"

tell us about kurds in quotes please.

ann ashtray 11.11.2010 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
lol.
I just said YOU have no reason to be proud.

"don't dig yourself out of this one"

tell us about kurds in quotes please.


Why not....? Blues based rock STILL happened here before anywhere else.

I'm not "proud" (+ never said I was)...but even IF I was, what's the big deal? Surely, those in Manchester have every right to take some pride in the fact that the Smiths/the Fall, Joy Division came from the same place.

Really, not a big deal.

keep poppin pimples 11.11.2010 10:18 PM

sway,you're talking crazy man

i'm sure knox has had negative intentions towards people at some

but take my word here

i guarantee you she is not planning to forcibly repatriate black people back to africa in an attempt to prove you didn't invent the blues, that just is not reality

knox 11.11.2010 10:18 PM

pride by proxy.

knox 11.11.2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples

i'm sure knox has had negative intentions towards people at some


not you. whoever (s) you are.

ni'k 11.11.2010 10:20 PM

sway, i don't care if you leave forever. if you stay i can just skip over your posts like i always do. if i happen to read one and i have nothing better to do i can just sit back, write up a few corgans and watch you implode as the whiskey soaks through your brain.

either way, you stay, you leave, you're still a fucking joke. not just to people here. but to yourself.

i have offered you that punch in the face over and over again. noone else here has gone that far. noone else even cares about you enough to suggest doing you that kind of a favour. i'm going to suggest someone else do it, so it doesn't sound like i am making a tough guy threat. as you are about to make a post like this, every few weeks or so, they would creep up behind you, pour a glass of cold water over your head then punch you in the face. then they'd scream "the reason your life is shit is because you fail to face up to the fact that your own actions make it shit. it's noone elses fault but your own." do you know why people hate you in real life and you have to come here and post this shit to feel like an asshole but without the consequences? it's your fault. not anyone elses. the blues can't fix this.

it's the only method i can think of that could have fixed me, when i was 16 and still might have acted like this. maybe if that had have happened to me i wouldn't have woken up hungover and ended up feeling so bad i'd have to go do it all over again like you've done over and over on this board.

you can't confuse your wounded still apparently adolescent ego with musical knowledge. you sound like a fool. when you tried to say knox sounded like joy division - that reference doesn't even work.

sway, you know what level you have sunk to? pretending knox said something she did not say, even though you know noone can even be convinced you could believably have inferred that meaning. that's the behaviour of a 5 year old. but even a 5 year old knows that whiskey isn't good for the mind. like when has another poster on this board resorted to just MAKING SHIT UP in such a childish way? do you think anyone who is reading might not check back to page 4 and look at what she really said?

even your own mother would laugh in your face at this shit. she would be embarrassed for you.

this can't go on for much longer, eventually the booze is all gone.

for the love of god slap yourself around the face and don't end up back here in another few weeks doing it all over again.

keep poppin pimples 11.11.2010 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
not you. whoever (s) you are.



you negrepped me previously when i called you a racist

it seems weird mentioning this mere minutes after assuring sway you aren't racist

knox 11.11.2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
when you tried to say knox sounded like joy division - that reference doesn't even work.



what do you mean i dont?
its the non-existent bass.

knox 11.11.2010 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keep poppin pimples
you negrepped me previously when i called you a racist

it seems weird mentioning this mere minutes after assuring sway you aren't racist


oh hi.
calling ME a racist - that's racist.

ann ashtray 11.11.2010 10:27 PM

I am a joke, and I will be leaving for a while.
:)

happy?

knox 11.11.2010 10:28 PM

aw.

ni'k 11.11.2010 10:35 PM

if you never returned, died in a car crash, left me money and the pics of said crash were posted on the board i would still not be anything above mildly disgusted.

keep poppin pimples 11.11.2010 10:36 PM

you don't need to leave.

pay tribute to the blues in a non-insane manner instead.

did you ever really enjoy any blues performances.


when i saw johnny winter he looked so old and unhealthy i thought he might die, but he shredded like a motherfucker.

at one point he started coughing and had trouble breathing, i thought he was going to die, i was kind of worried about him but i have to admit i selfishly thought "people are going to be reading about him dying on stage for years,and i was there man"

but he didn't die, he continued coughing and choking for a long time but was shredding like crazy all the while! what a guy

i like the blues too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjcOSmmTTiE


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