I wonder what Pierre Schafer, John Cage, Karlheinz Stockhausen and Bernard Parmegiani would make of that UTTERLY SHIT article on glitch music?

I made a mix for a couple of posters on here that had music by Raymond Scott that sounds like it was made yesterday. It was made nearly 55 years ago and some of those tracks sound like Kraftwerk or lo-fi techno.

Americans don't get futuristic-sounding music too well, stop deluding yourselves.

Derrick May, Detroit, Underground Resistance, Hip-hop, Africa Bombataa, Parliament... I think you mean white America dear.

Yep, I stand corrected.

*Afrika Bambaataa


glice made an error!

I make mistakes all the time here, but I only ever get picked up on the easy ones.

I mentioned Raymond Scott, a bona fide music innovator, and nobody even lashed out at me for the fact that he's American.

white.

What is coming next? Nothing.

Electronic music isn't a new thing, but it's probably the newest genre to be invented.

I've been making music for 10 years, and I've seen a few things I do get "big"... my first band, back in 1998, sampled video games and manipulated them with Fruity Loops, well before Crystal Castles and all those fuckers got big... then, there's things I've done, like progressive no wave jazzy stuff... that's already been done, whether I've heard it or not. Hell, when I was 12 years old, recording feedback and screaming, I had songs on mp3.com and had no idea that there was a whole huge genre of nothing but shit like that.

It's all been done.

Electronic music isn't a genre.

Put it in big letters, you'll feel better.


You're getting there.

Yeah, you're right, electronic music isn't a genre.

"Techno" is a relatively new genre to be have been invented however.

Cecil Leuter
DJ Shadow
Bruce Haack
Add N To X
GoldieLocks
Jake Mandell
Mantronix
Pietro Grossi
Cabaret Voltaire

what have all these people got in common?

wildly different electronic artists.

Penises, you sexist cunt.

I'm pretty sure Add N to X are cunts... with penises.

One of Add N To X is female. Ever noticed how electronic music in general is far less sexist than rock music? For all the talk of sexism in hip hop, for instance, female hip hop artists strike me as more enpowered. I'm generalising, of course, but I feel like pointing this out. Plenty of women in early-electronic music too and so forth.

This is a good point - women in rock are often decoration, or at least masculine in their femininity. I know people hate le Tigre, but I really admire how they don't perpetuate instruments or 'musicality'. Same with Chicks on Speed, who make no apologies for liking fashion (and why not?).

A lot of electronic music is still a sausage-fest, mind you. Autechre patch-fetishes are nearly worse than a million-paged thread about effect pedals.

Female toasters as well - Lady Saw is fucking scary.