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!@#$%! 01.24.2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?

democrats got the executive and the whole congress so it's a start

tw2113 01.24.2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?



TBD

The Soup Nazi 01.24.2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?


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Originally Posted by tw2113
TBD


Are you guys talking about the same thing? After four years of that fucking asshole OF COURSE things are not great, they're not even good, they're completely worse and the country's in the shitter. Now, if you're answering to, "OK, now that we elected Biden...", there's all kinds of potential for improvement, especially with a majority in Congress (razor-thin, but still), and that's not being naive - it's just that the baseline is so unbelievably low.

tw2113 01.24.2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Are you guys talking about the same thing? After four years of that fucking asshole OF COURSE things are not great, they're not even good, they're completely worse and the country's in the shitter. Now, if you're answering to, "OK, now that we elected Biden...", there's all kinds of potential for improvement, especially with a majority in Congress (razor-thin, but still), and that's not being naive - it's just that the baseline is so unbelievably low.



It's well assumed that any upwards movement will be a win, but at the same time, you really never know. I assume some movement up will definitely occur overall.

Skuj 01.24.2021 09:36 PM

Yeah, I kinda knew the answer to that question.

!@#$%! 01.24.2021 10:42 PM

so no reactions to that cherry shake?

ffs people. are you dead inside? :D

tw2113 01.24.2021 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
so no reactions to that cherry shake?

ffs people. are you dead inside? :D



yes, after the Trump administration, we are thoroughly dead inside. Give us time to resurrect.

tw2113 01.24.2021 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Yeah, I kinda knew the answer to that question.





To be fair, it would be far from the first extremely loud minority that I've heard.

!@#$%! 01.24.2021 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
yes, after the Trump administration, we are thoroughly dead inside. Give us time to resurrect.

increasing voltage to 400...

clear!

 


im in a very optimistic mood right now. noise aside, the speeding up of the vaccinations is starting to become visible in my area. yes, shit will happen as it often does, but more vaccination is great not just for public health but for the economy.

the impending stimulus is also good, and i agree that not everyone needs it but people need to stay alive till the economy picks up again.

i'm also bullish on future outcomes of the infrastructure plan. we sure need a fucking upgrade from the eisenhower era, and putting people to work should be a much better stimulus than quantitative easing, plus yield economic dividends for generations

and didn't you see fauci free at last? that's gotta be worth something.

there's a difference between skepticism and cynicism. one thing is to not be sure future outcomes; another is to deny the validity of present developments. yes it is better already and by far. pandemic management by science not tantrum? yes please.

_tunic_ 01.25.2021 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I suppose after 4 years of this, we can now ask: Is America Great Again?

You should look at it from a wider perspective. Unfortunately the world outside of America has been inspired or infected by Trumpism as well, such as:
- uprise of politicians or political parties in other countries, such as Thierry Baudet in Netherlands. Or Pegida, that started in Germany but is spreading over Europe
- disbelief in press
- disbelief in politics
- disbelief in police

choc e-Claire 01.25.2021 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by _tunic_
- disbelief in police


yeah, uh...I don't think that can be pinned on Trump


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