Originally Posted by Severian

Real talk though: Even though TLOP is currently being considered more of a "cultural" script-flip, I actually think that in time it will end up having the same effect on music in general that the rest of 'Ye's albums have had.

I think it's apt to think of it as Kanye's White Album. It has a little bit of everything, and that includes dumbass shit like 2016 takes on the skits that populated his first two records ("I love Kanye", "Freestyle 4", "Silver Surfer Intermission", the end of 30 hours).

Did anyone notice the cover of Joywave's latest album?




And there have been other cultural references to TLOP as well.

But I strongly believe that this will influence a whole shit tonigh artists in the same way Ye's other albums have. But because there's so MUCH going on in the album, its actual sonic influence is probably going to be a little more subtle.

That's how it was with MBDTF too. Yeah, that album was like the OKC of hip-hop, and everyone everywhere knew, even if they didn't like it, that it was a game changer. But it didn't produce any direct imitators the way 808's and College Dropout, and Yeezus did. It's probably because the album was not a single statement, and didn't contain one overarching sonic theme (aside from, perhaps, digital maximalism, which Drake kind of aped on Take Care, and which artists like Rustie have pushed to the limit in other genres).

TLOP is a lot like MBDTF in this way. Unlike Yeezus (which was very direct, and had a singular sound throughout... one that inspired Travi$ Scott and new bloods like KIT and gave Pusha T a shot of adrenaline for his big comeback) or 808's, which we all know is probably Ye's most influential album, TLOP spins off in every direction. So I think its influence will be less about direct imitation, and more about other artists continuing to vibe on the record's general frequency.

For example, I think very few albums have been as influenced by MBDTF as Kendrick's To Pimp a Butterfly. They sound absolutely NOTHING alike, but are similar in size and scope. Kendrick didn't rip Ye off in any way, shape or form, but he made a Comton street poet's version of a prog-rap album, and the result has been, essentially, that when it comes to grand hip-hop statements, the 2010s can be represented by those two albjms and pretty much nothing else. If someone were to have a big conspiracy board devoted to modern hip-hop, there would be a little line of yarn connecting these two albums, and moving on to a giant ?.

I suspect TLOP's influence will be similarly broad.

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Better not hear some lame ass fucking comparison between Prince and Kanye and no i am not being facetious or joking in any way.

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

This is what Rolling Stones fans were saying about Tattooo You...... sad..

Originally Posted by Severian

I'm really bored by stupid bickering. SFAD can't fart without dissing Kanye West.

Originally Posted by Severian

Oh pull the stick out of your ass. Jesus fucking Christ.

Prince just died. PRINCE. And this is how you respond? Ugh.

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Iwas going full bush doctrine and preemptive strike there. If you with a straight face thought to compare Kanye to MJ how could i be sure Prince isn't off limits? See you're problem is somehow you equate my hypercriticism of Kanye with somekind of personal attack against you. Stop it. Its not about you. It never was

Originally Posted by noisereductions

yooo I forgot the new Ferg album was out today!!

Originally Posted by Makaveli The Don

i ain't mad at ya, i got nothin but love for ya boy do yo thang

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Haha listen. I really don't like when you make what i believe to be unfair comparisons. However no, its not that serious. I break your balls about it because i so strongly disagree with the comparison itself, not because i am in any way mad at you.

Originally Posted by Severian

Well, thanks bra :)

but I REALLY hate that douchebaggy "nope, sorry, I'm right you're wrong, I can do stuff you can't" kind of attitude. It reminds me of a guy I used to know. He'd pull really similar shit. Made me want to punch him. And correct his grammar. And make a fool out of him.

In that instance it was more like, "the death penalty is wrong -- but your gay uncle is going to go to hell when he dies."

Self righteous horseshit.

Originally Posted by Severian

An album?

Originally Posted by louder

This is her best album to date. Cements her as the best female pop artist of our time.

Originally Posted by Severian

I feel like every album since Sasha Fierce has been her "best album to date" ... She just keeps making these pop masterpieces, each one exponentially more awesome than the last.

Originally Posted by Severian

What's it called? I took Tidal off my phone and cancelled my subscription when TLOP dropped for real so I've heard nothing about this.