Driller Killer is good and I can't see you not liking Bad Lieutenant. One that I love though and which i think you might be into but which tends to go under the radar a bit is The Blackout. Awesome film.

I think The Driller Killer is worth watching. It has a genuine 70s grimy New York feel to it that appeals to me a great deal. I struggled with Bad Lieutenant but then I struggle with Harvey Keitel.

I also remember enjoying King of New York but it's been so long since I saw it I couldn't tell you too much about it.

I'm sure that's of no help whatsoever.

Death Wish II is still the daddy of the rape revenge movie for me.

It was a choice between this and Passenger 57 for me this evening and I opted for the latter.

Another good one that tends to have been forgotten (maybe because it's not strictly a rape revenge movie) is 10 till Midnight. Charles Bronson again, but now playing a cop hunting a rapist.

And of course the first Mad Max is ultimately a total rape revenge movie.

I suppose the thing is to try and live with your decisions and have no regrets.

Haha! I can imagine. I was considering recommending Wagon Master but then I could've just as easily recommended everything. His cavalry films are also absolutely essential: Fort Apache, Rio Grande, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, all contribute to his big themes. Something I like about Ford is the sense I get when watching his films that I'll grow to love them even more as I get older.

dammit, people, i have not been able to post here all day.

has any one here seen "queen of versailles"? any opinions?

the best rape and revenge movie i have seen was "thriller: a cruel movie"


it's swedish and the style of it all seemed pretty artsy and realist and i thought it was supposed to be some serious message movie.


and then when i looked at who made it... it was all porno people! the sex scenes in this movie scared the shit out of me, but if they were intended to be sexy that just makes the movie more scary

the lead actress was great too, it's a shame she didn't make any non pornos

sounds like the girl with the dragon tattoo but maybe i'm reading you wrong?

no. i'm talking about "thriller: a cruel movie" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072285/

i mean is it a ripoff, or is that a swedish national obsession (rape/revenge)? same theme, no?

i don't know anything about girl with dragon tattoo or sweden so i can't really say anything

oh! you should watch it if you like that subject. pretty good, sorta, if a bit stereotyped-- i'd try to read the novel maybe. but i did like the movie, in all.

maybe i'll watch it sometime.

it was streamable on netflix last month

i don't have netflix but it was popular so i'm sure i could download it. i've been off movies the last week or so since i've gotten back into music.

also i'm pretty pissed at film in general since the show i was backgrounding on premiered and i'm completely absent in the episode, i'm a bit sour after going through so many hours living the rough life on set ala 1860s nebraska and ending up with no screen time

what were you on? hell on wheels?

yeah, except i'm not on it

oh mang! i love that fucking show!

sorry about the disappoints. did you at least have a good time while on set?

yeah mostly, i still have an episode left and i could possibly work again

Amazing? I say yes.


I rewatched Kikujiro, a feel good summer film.

I was a bit disappointed with Thriller. I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, I just think that without all of its 'transgressive' elements it really drag on. I should watch it again. Isn't it meant to have been one of the main inspirations behind Kill Bill?

Huge Fererra fan here. I'm probably in the minority, but one of my faves is "Dangerous Game" aka Snake Eyes from 1992 with Keitel and Madonna. It's a gruesome psychological study about a director and his two actors whose personal lives violently blur with the film they're working on. There are one or two scenes so tough to watch.... its a masterpiece that got shat upon when it was released.

I also really love "The Funeral", but both of these are not goood starting points for his work. I'd recommend "Bad Lt.", "King of New York" or "R-Xmas" as better places to start. And damn it, I'm still looking for a copy of his still unreleased "Mary" or "Go Go Tales" if anyone knows......

Thanks for the recommendations. I haven't watched ''Death Wish II'' and "Bad Lieutenant" for whatever reason. Since I've posted about ''I Spit on Your Grave'', check out without a critical mindset ''Naked Vengeance'', a movie which plagiarises it a bit but manages to improve the rope murder by the lake by combining it with a more creative use of the speedboat.

Bad Lieutenant is ace. I got good memories of watching that lying in bed with vodka disguised in a water bottle. Also with friends at college used to re-enact the part where Harvey Keitel is wanking in the street. Good times.

Ferrara : The Funeral, it has Chris Penn in his best role (awarded in Berlin or Venice, one of these two), and Del Toro's great, and there's Walken, Gallo...

people might laugh at me for saying this here, where this movie gets so much love, but i tried watching bad lieutenant and got fucking bored to tears.

so harvey keitel wanders about the city, snorts coke, tries to win increasing gambles at the world series, fucks hookers, steals from thieves-- and i just wanted it to be over. why? because in a way nothing happens. addicts on a bender are always the same and it's fucking boring. maybe i waited too long to watch this because it was nothing new to me at this point.

the best thing i got from it was learning about the beautiful cokehead/junkie who wrote the script-- she was a curious person, and i've looked at her photos trying to decipher her life: http://zoelund.com/ .

Bad Lieutenant? Bad film more like. Chortle.

Kikujiro is so heartfelt and honest, its the first film in a long time I've had urges to watch it again just a couples days of viewing it.

Given its cast that really should've been a far better film than it is.

harold and maude

omg what an amazing film

It's almost embarrassing how much I love that film.

I thought Gary Weis did a an excellent job at portraying the gangs without scrutinising their lives in what could have turned out to be a too journalistic, judgmental way. A new favourite for sure.

I am watching several episodes of a manga tv series called ''Lone Wolf and Cub'', which was a big favourite of mine as a kid. Apparently a total of 7 films have been based on this manga and I never knew about it until today!!

I'm just amazed 80 Blocks doesn't have a bigger cult following. Have you seen the Hughes Brothers' Pimp? Not on the same level as 80 Blocks but still a great watch.

PS: That film Blackout you listed. I hope you didn't watch it thinking it was the Ferrara one.

The soundtrack to this has been reissued by De Stijl, apparently. It's by a band called Citizens for Interplanetary Activity and it's excellent. Jad Yalkut's film is really worth your time too. Big fan of Yayoi Kusama here, so it was great to watch it for the first time at the recent exhibition of her work at Tate Modern.

No, just pure coincidence.

Me too. And the TM exhibition was also the first time I'd seen any of it. Although I think I came away being more a fan of her as a person than of her work.

Scanners is a masterpiece