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atari 2600 12.08.2006 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by towelie
A 1966 Velvet Underground acetate LP is a valuable collector's item and should be kept in the best condition as possible and the best way to do this is to wrap it in a towel.

I'm gonna get high now.


You're inspiring me to hum some Tina Turner:
You're simply the best/
better than all the rest

static-harmony 12.08.2006 10:36 PM

Hopefully is some corporate label so it can be released, And it doesn't end up in some makeshift museum in Las Vegas.

atari 2600 12.08.2006 10:42 PM

There is the chance too that the high bidder is an investor, and not necessarily a fan. That's certainly the way Warren Hill promoted this and it's going to pay a big dividend. He held on to it for years and got some free PR behind it before he took it to auction...during the holiday shopping season, no less.

If this is the case, then the buyer is obviously counting on reselling it years later for even more. I don't think this is a wise investment at all. I can't see it actually increasing any more in value for a long, long, long...long time. They'd be better off buying some fine art. But maybe higher-end fine art is out of the buyer's price range.

atari 2600 12.08.2006 10:59 PM

Aw hell...

we're in the red zone now...
34 mins 43 secs

US $155,501.00


This is the most anyone has ever paid for an LP (in this case, an acetate LP), to be more precise.

atari 2600 12.08.2006 11:11 PM


 

atari 2600 12.09.2006 12:03 AM

 

static-harmony 12.10.2006 04:54 AM

here is a news article in the Associated press

Velvet Underground Article

atari 2600 12.10.2006 11:09 AM

Thanks for that link, static-harmony.

Quote:

The recording turned out to be an in-studio acetate made during Velvet Underground's first recording over four days in April 1966 at New York's Scepter Studios. The record reportedly is only one of two in existence; the other is privately owned, with rumors circulating about the owner's identity. Columbia Records rejected the album.

Savage Clone 12.11.2006 03:33 PM

And the winning bid is...


....is....


...wait for it....


Fraudulent.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rtainment/home

SynthethicalY 12.11.2006 03:41 PM

Funny.

noisemachine 12.11.2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
And the winning bid is...


....is....


...wait for it....


Fraudulent.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rtainment/home


Wow...didn't totally see that one coming. :rolleyes:

Savage Clone 12.11.2006 04:51 PM

Yeah, it sure was a shocker all right.

scott v 12.11.2006 05:02 PM

i was skeptical that the seller could be selling a "fake", they are becoming very common on eBay as eBay has gone through the trouble by posting links warning about those skeptical sellers of certain products who ship from multiple locations around the globe, those scam artists from 3rd world countries are sometimes the culprits... though from this link:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rtainment/home
this seller seems legit. and of course its unsuprisinging that the bidder is a "fake" because it happens all the time on eBay...

gmku 12.11.2006 05:03 PM

Ha! Too freaking funny!

Isn't there a better way to sell these things? eBay seems, I don't know, almost too public, if you know what I mean. Isn't there a way to get this into the hands of a serious collector, or better, serious archivist (one who will preserve it for the public's benefit, help release it for masses, etc.) than going through the ticky-tacky online bid process?

SynthethicalY 12.11.2006 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Ha! Too freaking funny!

Isn't there a better way to sell these things? eBay seems, I don't know, almost too public, if you know what I mean. Isn't there a way to get this into the hands of a serious collector, or better, serious archivist (one who will preserve it for the public's benefit, help release it for masses, etc.) than going through the ticky-tacky online bid process?


You know the regular auctions can do exactly what ebay does. Also with the internet or the phone you can bid as well.

gmku 12.11.2006 05:39 PM

Would be nice if the seller just knew somebody in the business who'd buy it and take care of it.

porkmarras 12.14.2006 07:33 AM

All of Lou's master tapes from his solo LPs may have been destroyed in a fire. Thankfully it appears that the original analog tapes for Disco Mystic and Original Wrapper are stored in the National Archives next to the Constitution, which prtoects them from a nuclear bomb.

Pookie 12.14.2006 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
All of Lou's master tapes from his solo LPs may have been destroyed in a fire.


Arson? A music lover?

porkmarras 12.14.2006 07:47 AM

Who knows?Cale ha a lot to answer for.In the meantime,some eye candies:
 

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porkmarras 12.14.2006 08:19 AM

PSF: Some of your fans on the internet talk a lot about a bootleg of the Velvet Underground called the “Gymnasium tapes”--

The quality of those tapes is just unbelievable to me. Somebody knew what they were doing. I don’t know who made those tapes, but DAMN! You know, I saw a photograph of us the other day at Paraphernalia, ‘cause I was trying to figure out the layout of the Dom, I was trying to remember where everything was. And I called Paul, and I said “Paul, where did we get the PA from for the Dom?”

He said, “What PA? You didn’t have a PA.”

I said, “What are you talking about?”

“No,” he said, “you never had a PA.”

“So where did the voices come out of?”

“I dunno,” he said, “your amps! Your guitars, your voices— everything came out of the amps!” And I remember that we were spending a lot of money on speaker cords, because we broke them all the time. We had the viola, the bass in one amp, a Silvertone, and there was another guitar in the bass amp, and I don’t know where the voices came out of— you know, in those days, we used to think that if it’s in a different channel, it’s okay, right? But oh, boy, we must have sounded like shit! [Laughter]

The people that were there, Walter Cronkite and Jackie Kennedy, listening to Martha and the Vandellas’ “Dancin’ in the Streets,” that was easy; those were coming out of those little speakers on the projectors, there were three projectors. So, in general, what you’re talking about is a pretty nasty sound environment.

PSF: The contention on the internet is that you have these tapes and you refuse to release them.

Look, believe me, there’s a guy at Universal named Bill Evanson, and if there were any tapes he would have got ‘em out years ago. But the Gymnasium tapes are really good. “Walk It as You Talk It” is really crunchy. Great guitar sound. But no, I don’t know where they are.

PSF: You’ve said that you find the cult of the Velvet Underground distasteful.

I don’t know what I meant by that; it must have been in response to something. People are trying to pigeonhole you. . . it was just four guys, you know, that came together and did something for, like, three years? I’m proud of it. Really lucky to be around those people. You go looking for creative circles ‘cause you can’t live without it. You’ve gotta find somebody in your trade. You know, I did it in London when I was in college; I used to go up to the West End all the time, there were artists and painters. But then getting to New York— when you saw it around Andy, you saw how he. . . nurtured it, in a way. Some people say he took advantage of it and controlled it. Valerie Solanas certainly did.

porkmarras 12.14.2006 10:29 AM

Saturn Records, based in Oakland, California, who were handling on the online sale, have since received an email from the apparent auction winner - who claims a friend made the astonishing bid on his behalf "as a lark".

"I'm so sorry," the email partly read. "I can barely afford gas for my car," it went on.

haha

CHOUT 12.16.2006 01:42 AM

Check out the $15,000 lazer turntable someone recommended buying for this in the questions for the auction.
http://www.elpj.com/

 

Laser stylus reads record grooves using light, not a needle
No groove contact, no record wear
Pure analog playback without any digitization
Easy to use
Accurate and musical
Starting list price: $15,000 US


Anything new about this record?

sarramkrop 04.18.2007 03:18 PM

A while ago I managed to dig out Norman Dolph's email address and ask him a couple of questions that had occured to me after reading the Joe Harvard book. Amazingly, he was kind enough to reply and has given me permission to post the answers here. So....

Q: Did you ever make any headway in your investigations as to whether Columbia (or anyone) still has the orginal tapes from the Scepter sessions?

ND: No but I suspect it is on Columbia Record Productions shelf at Columbia records Archive Storage in Iron Mountain. I know there will be a blue 5 x 7 index card there which will list all the facts about the tape and the disk and to whom the tape was returned if the tape is not there. If I am listed as the returnee of the tape, then I gave it back to Warhol - but I don't recall handling anything but the acetate after the fact. It is my belief that Warhol/Vu kept the multtrack master and the reference acetate. The tape from which the reference was cut (John Licata's mix) could still be sitting in the vault at Iron Mountain. filed under that XTV number.

Q: Do you recall whether the track 'There She Goes Again' was recorded in the sessions over which you presided? I'd always assumed so, but on the other hand it's not included on the acetate that's recently made it into circulation...

ND: That is curious, I need to give that some thought. There she goes again was on the original session.
[...]
The Holy Grail for all of this would be the cassette tapes Warhol had running in the control room (he was only there for a relatively small part of the sessions) but always carried a recorder just to "sop up" what ever was going on. If there is an archvist in Pittsburg, and the tapes are dated, you would find some interesting stuff I am sure.

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There are also one or two other things that I'm waiting to hear back from him on!
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gmku 04.18.2007 03:28 PM

Very nice research, Prokie. Ask Nahm what he thinks of this?

 

sarramkrop 04.18.2007 03:30 PM

There's a thread about that on their forum. I've uploaded an awesome bootleg on the 'obscure-ish velvet question ' thread on here, if you are interested.

gmku 04.18.2007 03:31 PM

Whose forum?

EDIT: Oh, never mind. I'm especially dense today.

sarramkrop 04.18.2007 03:32 PM

The Velvet Underground's.

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=10369


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