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val-holla-ing 11.06.2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
please understand that I wasn't being anti-PC.

crypto made a tactless error, but people calling him a racist for it was just too excruciatingly idiotic.

if anything, it was just a bad extension of his rap mogul lingo.

my guess is, just about every other tape that's been chopped 'n screwed in the H-town has a reference to "black bitches" in it.

again, might not make it right to say in public, but it doesn't mean he hates black people.

PS: I bet he calls his friends nagas.


what you're saying more or less sounds like the don imus defense. i'm not defending it either way. there's a difference in calling women "bitches" as an example of braggadocio and calling someone a "black bitch" (which i've never heard in a spoken in a rap song). neither situation is appropriate, but you have to acknowledge the difference.

and i really hope he doesn't call his friends that. that shit ain't baller or next level.

alyasa 11.06.2007 12:01 PM

Whoa, back it up a bit... There are no strippers here in Singapore, only crack hoes, but they're inaccesible to anyone but organized crime personnel and anyone with a minimum $35,000 p.a salary... So that's confusing... How does 'making it rain' make one feel better about oneself again? :o

sarramkrop 11.06.2007 12:11 PM

Anyway, whatever the talk about racism, this girl remains an ignorant idiot, and so do her friends. She's a stupid, ignorant bitch for sure, black or not.

jon boy 11.06.2007 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
why because he uses black slang? im pretty sure hes just joking. im also pretty sure he digs hip hop...so???


im also pretty sure yr an idiot.


well we all know your an idiot.

i dont think he is racist per se, just a tactless fool but its pretty much what i expect from him. i guess being a 20 year old and naive is what its all about.

not really bothering about getting into an 'discussion', if thats what its called with some of the more argumentative posters on here and not really caring i dont really want to look at this thread.

this thread has gone on for this long and no one has said sonic love yet, i am suprised.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.06.2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
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Of all the things that you could accuse crypto of being, racist is most definitely not one of them. I really don't understand why he is getting attacked.


maybe all of the really stupid yet revealing things that have been posted here explain things? to those it is not obvious to, I wonder...

sarramkrop 11.06.2007 12:47 PM

Whatever tha means. So, what's the rastafarian's views on homosexuality, then? I'd be curious to know.

Rob Instigator 11.06.2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
Whoa, back it up a bit... There are no strippers here in Singapore, only crack hoes, but they're inaccesible to anyone but organized crime personnel and anyone with a minimum $35,000 p.a salary... So that's confusing... How does 'making it rain' make one feel better about oneself again? :o


it makes idiots feel like big men because they ahve so much money they an throw it in the air and not care and watch women grovel on the ground for it

floatingslowly 11.06.2007 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
what you're saying more or less sounds like the don imus defense.


I'm not defending anything that he's said. I just think that calling crypto RACIST is far out of line.

wrong, ill-mannered (on this account) and highly mysogamist, surely. but racist, no.

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Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
"black bitch" (which i've never heard in a spoken in a rap song).


granted, I'm not as up on hip hop these days as I used to be, but please don't make me google "black bitch" just to find one.

although I cannot recall off the top of my head a lyric involving "black bitches" (kind of shit doesn't really stick with me, you know?), I do know of an Ice Cube song that talks about the white kind. it's the jam too.

it goes:

Ease back white bitch, I don't play that
Just because I got on my L.A. hat
Stalkin' walking in my big black boots


Cave Bitch is the name of the song.

sayin'.

floatingslowly 11.06.2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
maybe all of the really stupid yet revealing things that have been posted here explain things? to those it is not obvious to, I wonder...


yeah, this board is like a fucking crystal ball into the SOUL.

you can really tell who's for real and who's simply hiding behind some identitity that they've made for themselves.

val-holla-ing 11.06.2007 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I'm not defending anything that he's said. I just think that calling crypto RACIST is far out of line.

wrong, ill-mannered (on this account) and highly mysogamist, surely. but racist, no.


okay. simple misunderstanding. we're on the same page now.

val-holla-ing 11.06.2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Whatever tha means. So, what's the rastafarian's views on homosexuality, then? I'd be curious to know.


or how do they feel about women as equals?

pbradley 11.06.2007 01:11 PM

Notice no racial term is used in the title. And titles can be seen as declarations of intent, particularly in this case.

sarramkrop 11.06.2007 01:16 PM

What I find creepier about this thread is the fact that a couple of posters who have been ever so vociferous about the racism issue, might be suffering from some kind of thinly-veiled homophobia themselves. Like floatingslowly says: ''Just sayin''.

floatingslowly 11.06.2007 01:56 PM

zomg homo cooties!!!!

Everyneurotic 11.06.2007 02:02 PM

yeah, well, all kinds of people suck.

take that!

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 02:03 PM

I blame Il Duce

 




Everyneurotic 11.06.2007 02:08 PM

el duce?

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.06.2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I'm not defending anything that he's said. I just think that calling crypto RACIST is far out of line.

wrong, ill-mannered (on this account) and highly mysogamist, surely. but racist, no.





let me rephrase that. the things that were said were racist, better? but see, that doesn't really change things, because people who are not racist do not tend to say in repitition racist remarks.
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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
yeah, this board is like a fucking crystal ball into the SOUL.

you can really tell who's for real and who's simply hiding behind some identitity that they've made for themselves.


honestly, if people are inventing racist personnas for the internent, that is much more disturbing then if they were just blatant and honest racists... and so in this regard, yes even the false and created internet characters still reflect the genuine personalities of the users who create them...

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.06.2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
What I find creepier about this thread is the fact that a couple of posters who have been ever so vociferous about the racism issue, might be suffering from some kind of thinly-veiled homophobia themselves. Like floatingslowly says: ''Just sayin''.


Spot on

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.06.2007 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
yeah, this board is like a fucking crystal ball into the SOUL.

you can really tell who's for real and who's simply hiding behind some identitity that they've made for themselves.


honestly, if people are inventing racist personnas for the internent, that is much more disturbing then if they were just blatant and honest racists... and so in this regard, yes even the false and created internet characters still reflect the genuine personalities of the users who create them...

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.06.2007 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
well we all know your an idiot.

i dont think he is racist per se, just a tactless fool but its pretty much what i expect from him. i guess being a 20 year old and naive is what its all about.

not really bothering about getting into an 'discussion', if thats what its called with some of the more argumentative posters on here and not really caring i dont really want to look at this thread.

this thread has gone on for this long and no one has said sonic love yet, i am suprised.


please put me back on your ignore list and be on your way....

thank you for stoping by.
 

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 03:24 PM

jeezus...

i think crypto was talking carelessly out of his ass, as he often does, and needed a mild corrective ass-kicking (as he got); but from there to peg him as a supporter of the KKK is going too far.

the fact is we are all ignorant and prejudiced to some extent, and the reason we remain that way is because we want to deny that we are so. i think it's better to own up and learn from one's mistakes than to retreat behind the false appearance of perfection, like some dysfunctional fucker.

anyway, val's posts were the best ones by far and worth the annoyance of other posts in this thread. for all the bitching about the bitching, it's good and healthy to discuss this shit, and let it out, chickenshits and pretenders be damned.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.06.2007 03:25 PM

like i said earlier....


if i spill drank on my shirt
I CAN DO THAT!
it don't matta' cuz i buy me so mo'
I CAN DO THAT!

floatingslowly 11.06.2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
if i spill drank on my shirt
I CAN DO THAT!


like I said, just don't rear-end the person in front of you at the stop sign when it happens.

SynthethicalY 11.06.2007 04:29 PM

This thread is still going?

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.06.2007 06:07 PM

best thread ever?

SynthethicalY 11.06.2007 06:11 PM

NAh Brah.

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
best thread ever?


i blame your ancestors

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
NAh Brah.


racist. classist. homophobe.

Alex's Trip 11.06.2007 06:32 PM

My BLACK homo-friendly friend was telling me about her BLACK homo-enemy friend that was spouting out a bunch of homo-hatred "God hates fags" type crap in front of a BLACK lesbian (closeted and friends with the homo friend and enemy).

She said it was funny, sad, and awkward.

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
My BLACK homo-friendly friend was telling me about her BLACK homo-enemy friend that was spouting out a bunch of homo-hatred "God hates fags" type crap in front of a BLACK lesbian (closeted and friends with the homo friend and enemy).

She said it was funny, sad, and awkward.


sexist. xenophobe. carnivore.

Alex's Trip 11.06.2007 06:38 PM

White meat. Yum.

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
White meat. Yum.


self-hating latino

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.06.2007 06:40 PM

self-loathing indjun

cryptowonderdruginvogue 11.06.2007 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
self-hating latino


OH SNAP!
 

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
self-loathing indjun


antisemite. antidentite. mass murderer.

Alex's Trip 11.06.2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
self-hating latino

 


Just kill me now.

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
 


Just kill me now.


i ran out of random condemnations. i need inspiration.

let me see...

skinhead. religiously intolerant. hater at large.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.06.2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
jeezus...

i think crypto was talking carelessly out of his ass, as he often does, and needed a mild corrective ass-kicking (as he got); but from there to peg him as a supporter of the KKK is going too far.

the fact is we are all ignorant and prejudiced to some extent, and the reason we remain that way is because we want to deny that we are so. i think it's better to own up and learn from one's mistakes than to retreat behind the false appearance of perfection, like some dysfunctional fucker.

.


Now see, that was my point exactly through out this whole thread, though I admit to a bit of exaggeration. I am not arguing that this person is a hopeless case of bigotry and racism, quite the opposite. I have been suggesting that this behavior was wrong, and it reflects underlying thought processes that should be acknowledged and subsequently eliminated through a process of mental hygiene. no one is perfect, neither is perfection the standard, however, let this not be an excuse for wrong doing. Our mistakes do not give us the excuse to continue in them...

pbradley 11.06.2007 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
we've never really singled ourselves out. we've been under harsh scrutiny since forever. of course if a few assholes speak against homosexuality, they'll be treated as the ambassadors for an entire people. i don't know why, but it's always been that way. that's how people ended up with the skewed view that the best way to learn about black people is to listen to rap and an al sharpton speech.

True. You have a point and I apologize. It's hard to remember sometimes that the Black community today cannot be said to be as unified as it was during the Civil Rights era (and even then).

!@#$%! 11.06.2007 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Now see, that was my point exactly through out this whole thread, though I admit to a bit of exaggeration. I am not arguing that this person is a hopeless case of bigotry and racism, quite the opposite. I have been suggesting that this behavior was wrong, and it reflects underlying thought processes that should be acknowledged and subsequently eliminated through a process of mental hygiene.


oh, yeah, that, yes.

& papel higiénico ftw

 


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