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me. 07.08.2008 04:43 PM

an album from a while back -
www.discogs.com/release/176781
and also the first Nick Blinko book - granted it's not an album!.

Savage Clone 07.08.2008 04:51 PM

Cosmic Invention - Help Your Satori Mind, preferably on vinyl.

HECKLER SPRAY 07.08.2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Most of Unwound's catalogue.
Everything Luke Vibert has done
Atomizer by Big Black
AND PAVEMENT NEED TO FUCKIN' RE-ISSUE BRIGHTEN THE CORNERS IN DELUXE FORM:mad::mad:


Agreed.



Drive Like Jehu 1st album.
Jesus and Mary Chain : a propper CD version of Psychocandy. Please.

Savage Clone 07.08.2008 05:30 PM

What's the availability of "Nurses Song With Elephants" by David Bedford?
That one's pretty fantastic.

Also, I will continue to press for the reissue of the Birdmen Of Alkatraz' "Glidin' Off" EP, hopefully packaged as a bonus disc with their (not as great, but still more than worthy of reissue) LP, "From The Birdcage."

Top-notch late 80s Italian psych there.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
just some guys jamming (well, not exactly just "some guys")


Not just some guys, and not just jamming, to my ears. People jamming create Phish and Grateful Dead. Maybe this is why LMY doesn't sanction anything - he wants to retain the mystique of the 'legend'. I'll go back to the well-tuned piano: there's a phenomenal restraint, a respect for sounds that makes it a very specific sort of improvisation. He studied under that Indian fellow whose name escapes me. It's maybe that he creates very specific improvisations that require his presence, require his say-so. Operates between Western and Eastern classical. You can understand him being precious, but there's a danger that once he's gone, he'll be entirely forgotten, while Terry Riley (a subordinate composer, to my ears) will be better remembered. And it'll be his own fault. Lou Harrison is good, very good, but I'd be annoyed if he's better remembered for being the American musico-syncretist of choice over LMY.

Savage Clone 07.08.2008 05:32 PM

Are you thinking of Pandit Pran Nath?

Glice 07.08.2008 05:33 PM

I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Are you thinking of Pandit Pran Nath?


Thanks, I couldn't see my Indian section from where I'm sat.

*Edit: still can't, as I'm sat in the same place. What a rubbish thing to say.

Toilet & Bowels 07.08.2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.


agreed, stick b-sides and non-album tracks on their own compilations, there's no need to spoil the running of a great album by sticking tuff titty rap or satan is boring on the end.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
agreed, stick b-sides and non-album tracks on their own compilations, there's no need to spoil the running of a great album by sticking tuff titty rap or satan is boring on the end.


I have some fancy re-issue of 'live at the witch trials'. Other than the main album (the only one of theirs I nearly never listen to), it's just guff.

From a fans point of view, I don't see the point. I have all the Mogwai Young Team out-takes on tape (somewhere, they may have been lost). I don't really need to re-buy the album. If I want a rarity, I'll download it, and there's usually good reason something's a rarity (i.e., it's not as good/ guff).

From a marketing point of view, I don't see the point. People new to the band won't buy it, people who're faint fans won't bother and the hardcore surely can't be a large enough market. Maybe prior to the whole downloading shizzy, when you had to write letters to fanzine writers (I have some exceptionally rare Radiohead stuff on tape that I've still not seen online) and exchange some rubbish for a tape of something that you really didn't care about once you'd left school, it makes sense. But otherwise, just cock.

Having said that, I really admire Trent Reznor's tiered approach to fans: those who don't care, get it free; Those who care a bit, get it cheap; Those who like physical things, get it at normal (and a bit); those who like fancy things, get it at a bit more; those obsessive knobs who'll buy any old cack, pay the studio bills and buy me a new conservatory. Smart business acumen.

demonrail666 07.08.2008 05:51 PM

Yes, the whole 'bonus track' thing on reissues is an absolute nuisance. Same as the Director's cut in film.

demonrail666 07.08.2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I have some fancy re-issue of 'live at the witch trials'. Other than the main album (the only one of theirs I nearly never listen to), it's just guff.


Your principle about the guff of reissue 'bonus' material is spot on. Although I would say that Live at the Witch Trials is one of the few instances where I can forgive the whole concept. If you'd said Dragnet, however, I'd agree entirely. Even though I prefer Dragnet, there's only so many times you can hear anlother take of Rowche Rumble.

Glice 07.08.2008 05:58 PM

I think the Fall are exceptional insofar as, if you can be bothered to sit through the second CD of 'live...', you can probably also be bothered to not buy it and hold on for the next record (probably due around June of next year).

Toilet & Bowels 07.08.2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Even though I prefer Dragnet, there's only so many times you can hear anlother take of Rowche Rumble.


i was going to mention that

SuperCreep 07.08.2008 06:16 PM

 

Death & the Maiden 07.08.2008 07:30 PM

The entire Verlaines catologue (all that's currently available is the best of and their most recent)
The entire Haunted Henschel catologue (which hasn't been released on CD yet)
The entire Ed Kuepper catologue (some of his albums have been reissued, but the rest is expensive and hard to find)
Fimbulwinter - Servants of Sorcery (Fimbulwinter was the first band of Dimmu Borgir's Shagrath, I would have thought this would be in demand)

Death & the Maiden 07.08.2008 07:34 PM

Bonus tracks and CD's on reissued albums annoy me. If a whole extra CD is released with the original album, I'll never listen to it. Demos of the songs on the original album are usually pointless (the Ramones are guilty of this - by putting demos on the album, they've pretty much put certain songs on the album twice).

ZEROpumpkins 07.08.2008 07:48 PM

Yeah that also shits me off to no end, D&TM.
It's just an excuse for them to charge more for their albums, really.

pantophobia 07.08.2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.


for the most part i agree, it disrupts the flow of the whole album most of the time

the only one that really works for me is the dirty deluxe with the addition of destroyed room and genetic it blends quite seemlessly into the album and makes one wonder why they were left off in the first place (the bio does say why though)

ZEROpumpkins 07.08.2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I don't see the point of 'deluxe' re-issues. No Pavement albums would've been enough. Even someone I like (let's say, SY) shouldn't really faff about with deluxe re-issues. Get the original, or a re-issue, but there's very good reason out-takes are out-takes.

If you've heard some of Pavement's B-Sides you might think different. CRCR deluxe is track after track of pure win.


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