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actually, that is what the thread started out as. the thread started out as who do you consider to be the most important women in rock. assblaster thought our answers were a little too "vanilla." i used your list of artists to choose from to illustrate my point that the actual pool for important women of african descent in ROCK history was not all that large. in order for someone to be IMPORTANT in rock, there must be no question that they are rock. if there's a doubt, the importance goes down. and hey, i do have "the glamorous life" by sheila e sandwiched on my ipod somewhere between shannon's "let the music play" and "morning train" by sheena easton (that's not even a joke.) i just don't consider it rock, though she does rock. and lenny kravitz himself is by all means rock, which would mean someone in his band is - but if you go out and ask 100 people on the street who cindy blackmon is by name alone, i'd be surprised if even five people knew, hence the importance argument more over the rock argument.

somehow this thread started out as a thread about primarily white women and now is a thread about black men. where is assblaster now to complain how racist we are for not giving the black men a thread of their own? (maybe at home memorizing the extras on his Crash dvd???)

since now it appears we've gone beyond rock, i will throw out my favorite african-american female recording artists (to get back to the female part) and i will say lauren hill and erykah badu. if we go to jazz, nina simone rules all, followed closely by cassandra wilson. i list them as my favorite and not most important in any genre's history, with exception of nina simone. nina simone has true importance due to her part in the civil rights movement.

no one mentioned wendy o. williams. or did they?

anyway... W.O.W

i'm not a "lady" & they aren't "rock", but

I'm a huge fan of Laurie Anderson







& to a lesser extent, Kate Bush

Running Up That Hill single

love the cover

a happy Laurie in '05










Laurie & Lou





























one wonders how the fuck Bette Midler got in this picture...backstage at Carnegie Hall after a Jimmy Scott with Antony & the Johnsons concert.

this pic says it all:









































an Annie Liebovitz photo from 1995

katrina benefit '06














































she's with the king (since like '92) so I suppose that makes her the queen, right? oh well, most of you people will never get it. She's too truly avant-garde & too ahead of her time. She made it into John Peel's record box, for lord's sake. Even Lou didn't. She was on the scene with Glenn & Rhys before anything even went down. She was Andy Kaufman's "straight-man" audience plant too. She speaks many languages & performs most foriegn concerts in the vernacular. She was the first artist to release an interactive CD-ROM with Puppet Motel. She was the first (& last) artist-in-residence for NASA. She can make art in any media. She invented the modern multimedia stage show & many instruments. She doesn't tour with a lot of equipment anymore, however, & mainly just relies on her storytelling mastery. She was the featured musical act at the state-of-the-art World Expo last year in Aichi, Japan.

when asked about Laurie's music by Charlie Rose in 2003 (after some 9 years together, mind you), Lou praised her to the skies & said "she's the best...THE BEST" & kept going on & on....Charlie was interviewing Lou for NYC Man & the whole time he could not stop talking about Laurie. (& Andy Warhol too) You could tell she was a little embarrased.

She didn't contibute a hell of a lot to music before she commited suicide a few years back, but she was intimidating as shit and had THE most unique female voice of all time...

She contributed nothing to music, unless you count the moronic stage stunt of blowing up cars; I certainly do not. W.O.W. sucked. She would have gone nowhere without the tits, hence her regalia.

you want her, don't you?

nope, not in the slightest. suicidal frauleins with faces like a pit bull with birth defects fail to turn me on at all.

you wrote yourself that "she didn't contribute a hell of a lot to music"...what a fucking jerk.

excuse me for being twice as factual as you were.

you contributed one fact: that she committed suicide.
i contributed two: she was the first to beat on, smash up & sometimes even blow up junker cars on stage.
she would have gone nowhere without the ta-tas & that's why she exhibited them all the time.

i think at most of her concerts she usually went completely topless to sell tickets; lookee there, another fact. I did nothing to cut down your post.

you have a sexy mind, but a poor attitude.

maybe you should focus that mind on being open, rather than taking every opportunity to create an unnecessary argument...
i know you weren't cutting down my post. Quite frankly, I wouldn't care either way

I like Aretha Franklin, she is amazing. I love the "Say A Little Prayer For You" Lp. The titlecut is one of the most perfect songs ever. plus, the record includes a very sexy version of Satisfaction.

hat off to Mr atari there

i'm sexy all over, kid


"every opportunity"?

nope, I can engage in debate just fine WITHOUT ARGUMENT with people that aren't peabrains

witness the girls vs. satan thread

go fuck yrself

suit yourself, atari. it was a compliment...

we didnt get off on the correct foot on the old board atari but it is always good to have your opinions here

you speak the truth but you do it an educated manner, but your truths are not necessarily mine, but it is great you still post although not as much as you used to

Laurie Anderson and Lou Reed Gossip:
They came to see a Shakespere production in the theatre were i work and Lou Reed was appalingly rude to the people who were attending the vip room.Laurie Anderson was typically friendly.She also composed the music for one of the plays we had on a while ago.Atari did you ever hear anything about this?

just for the record, i respect his posts. I usually agree with all his comments, really! I don't want to look like the bad guy, here. He's very smart...

All the ladies in the house say "yeah."
Come on you motherfuckers say a prayer
when you fight, you gots to fight fair
you motherfucker, yeah
you motherfucker
you know what time it is!