i see the fact that the only option even you can offer for them to maintain any credibility is to have given up the ghost in the past as proof of my previous argument.

the point about playfulness and creativity is unrefutable from any standpoint.

You're right in many ways, and I can't be arsed to formulate a better answer to it right now. Point of the thread is: if you have such vivid feelings about it all, what the fuck are you doing on here, instead of putting it all into practice?

Still waiting for the cassingle, by the way.

Matching suits.

its now a calbum and it will be out by aug hopefully.

but you could help speed up the process with suggestions as to how i can get files off a laptop that has broken usb ports and wont burn cds or dvds? i cant reformat it without loosing the files. i dont want to have to take photos of all the text and record the audio out onto something else because theres so much and i cant loose anymore quality.

but yeah, yr right, im retiring after 1000 posts.

Rolling Stones to you, then.

ouch

Send me a pm.

Keith Richards

What are you going to do after 1000 posts?

grieve/get a new ego/something worthwhile/its a secret

gmku has a point in all this too. If we only listen to music cynically, which is very much the norm these days, that's not fun either.

That's my biggest problem. I am actively working to become less cynical about music. People have whined about rock being a nostalgia trip for eons.. but I've been to several shows recently that were pretty fucking thrilling that some twat would probably call 'nostalgic' or 'ahistorical' (again, Drunkdriver, I can't talk about them enough). You can definitely look critically at something... but when it gets too cerebral all the fun is taken out.

er, um, ahem, well, then, there, now...

My rockandroll balls are bigger than your rockandroll balls.

Its mystery

The problem with today's music is that it hasn't had time to season.

I've thought that before, and it didn't come to me again till you mentioned it. A popular band used to stick around a lot longer. Beatles, Stones, Zepplin, AC/DC, etc... while I'm not a huge fan of all of those, you have to give them credit for longevity.

Or maybe you don't. Maybe the credit should go to the music fans of that period, ones who didn't look at music from 5 years before as "old" and knew what they liked, not just what they were told to like (ok, that last part I'm sure still played a part back then, but I can't imagine it was as bad as it is now).

We should also probably give credit to the bands that didn't form. The bands that didn't say, "Wow, that Rolling Stones sound sure is a hit! Let's do exactly that!" Once again, sure it happened, but I would guess on a much smaller level than it does now, with everybody thinking they can and should form a band.

I'd be curious to know what prompted you to start this thread. Are you bored with any music you listen to today? Not enough greatness?

These days i find VERY FEW records that i want to actually buy. I'd say i buy about 10 new records each year (music that was released that year).
But i may buy 5times as much older music.
To me it doesn't mean music is less good than before it's just that my tastes are more and more precise, which is good and a pity at the same time.

Um, maybe he feels something is lacking from today's music? Hmm? Maybe that prompted it? Possibly?

Can you possibly try not to sound like a frustrated cunt? Hmm? Possibly?:fuckyou:

I was kidding, but... sure thing sugarcakes, I'll see what I can do.

I'm nobody's "sugarcakes".

Looks like you are, sugarcakes.

I feel like a lot of people say this about current music (no matter what time it is)...then 10 years later they realize it wasn't bad at all.

this is a very valid point and one I made in a thread I started a few months back. with the ability to distribute music before bands becoem seasoned, before songhs are perfected (as defined by the band of course) then all we have are skecthes. sketches are wonderful things, but they are not the final masterpiece.
bands now put out records before they ever play a gig, before "paying their dues" in a sense. Those "dues" make bands tighter, make bands flow together and the energy just explodes exponentially.

don't push it, or i might have to NEG-REP you.:eek:

there is a lack of flavour in music today..and certainly a lack of surface tension.... too much oil has neutralized the flavour and destroyed the molecular surface of music...now everything falls through it.......

That's right Herr Bee - music should follow the example of Walkers and come up with new flavours.

Fish n' chip-fi, anyone?

noise.

NOOOOO!!!

Actually, I just recently got neg-repped by Glice for knocking Dolly Parton. Gotta say, didn't see that coming.

talking about neg-rep received is just as silly as threatening to give it out.

it makes you look like a crybaby. a crybaby over meaningless little boxes.

I guess I'd get upset if glice neg-repped me, but then again, I'd never dis Dolly.

shame.

I regret nothing.

Je ne regrette rien.

:)
:)

it would be nice if we could recycle records that are shit too. Imagine if we'd dig a hole, throw all the collective animal shit into it, and wait a few years to find a tree in there. What do you think?

I'm never bored of music. If I'm not into it, I just don't play any at all.

this is a fantastic idea.

select like 10 shit old useless piece of crap records that noone cares about anymore then develop a piece of software that you can put them all into and it will remix and mash them up into new shapes and patterns so you can see what random stuff comes out.

seriously tho if you developed software that was sufficiently intelligent to recognise patterns and repetitions between different songs/albums you could be on to something.

This is bizzarely a very accurate description of a half-finished sculpture in my garden. I have to finish it off now you've said that.

What records did you use to make it? And what records are you adding to it?

I was wondering what happens to all the unwanted shit that people throw away in disgust.