Smashing Pumpkins - even though I bought three CDs of them, an error- and R.E.M., I don't know I just don't like them.

If someone hasn't commented that 'you should never have to try to like a band, man, its either good or it isn't' by now, I'll eat my hat.

plenty of people have said that

i disagree. theres lots of music that takes repeated listens to like. or sometimes once you study a certain kind of music it really grows on you, like early opera and baroque music. sometimes things should be given a second chance
but not always

like what? like me?

thanks for reminding us how juveniles think, and how they judge new experiences. ;)

the world is not a dichotomy.

There's music that takes a long time to 100% appreciate -- but I can tell pretty quickly tell if I'll even be able to appreciate any quality of the music enough to listen to it for long periods of time. Luckily, I like probably 80% of the things I hear right away -- I only love probably 10% I hear right away however.

Being dismissive of a band isn't being closeminded, at least not in my case -- I'll listen to a whole album of a band I'm not into before I completely dismiss it. Bad music doesn't grow on me; good music grows on me to become great music but I've never heard a band I've completely hated at first and learned to love it later.

I just don't see the point in trying to like a band.

you gots to TRY when your brain's pre-conceptions and prejudices and false certainties are telling you to ignore, but you ahve heard many a person who you respect say they enjoy them. hard work makes it better.

like love.....

Music just doesn't challenge me. When I hear a challenging band, that's when I REALLY listen to it. Most music is really easy to digest...

Yeah.. i f I like something hopefully I'll come to love it. But if I hate something I highly doubt I'll ever like it.

atsonic, you have such a wide range of that avant garde music that you have heard and digested, your opinions about music come froma rarefied air, a strata that most people have not yet reached, or will never reach.

it is like trying to impresss thurston witha great new hardcore band. chances are it will never happen. he has heard too much!

hmm. well I guess that makes sense then.

I'm there 100% with you, man.
I don't think there's a band in this world I hate more than Aerosmith. Except I don't try anything- it's routinely forced on me by my best friend.
I don't know if anyone would know what I'm referring to, but there was this old arcade first person shooter that was totally sponsored by Aerosmith. Being a little kid I wasn't familiar with the band but I did distinctly remember that I could never tell if the guy I was fighting for was a man or a woman. And a few weeks ago I was talking with that same Aerosmith adoring best friend, and brought up that odd memory:

-"You remember that old rollerrink?"
-"Yeah, it's still there"
-"And remember that old videogame we'd play, that shooter with the transvestites? Wasn't that pretty fucked up to be open to the public?"
-"That was Steven Tyler, you idiot!"

He was so pissed. =-)


That's really their only record I own that doesn't half to sound all teenage every other track. Siamese Dream has some really great songs that develop well. On Melancholy you have to deal with such melodramatic shit everyother song.

Anyways I still believe that some of my most favorite bands I listen to, I liked one song but not the others and then I like two, then three, then all of it. I don't think there is anything shameful about that and that kind of discovery is what really attracts me to music.

you said it brother!

Absolutely.

I definitely am not a believer of just dropping a band completely after a couple of listens. I mean, unless it's complete abhorrent shit sometimes it takes a while to warm up to something. When I was 15 it took me a buncha listens over several months for me to fully appreciate and become addicted to Sonic Youth.

Oh c'mon, shut it mate. This is generally the sort of stuff that you hear people say when they are more enamoured with the idea of listening to 'challenging' music rather than appreciating what's entering their ears for how it sounds.

If you spend time challenging yourself to stuff that you already know that you might get but you won't like, I think that you should really sit down and reconsider where your priorities stand when it comes to music.You can argue all you like about this.

That's kinda the point I was trying to make, porky, but you said it way better than I ever could.

You must spread some man-hugs and -kisses before giving it to porky again.

In that case you ought to learn what the difference between having a modicum of patience for a band that you feel might come up with the goods and feeling challenged by their records is.

Again, what I was trying to say....

I just think a lot of people feel like they're "supposed" to like something or don't understand why they don't feel the same way about certain bands as other people. I've seen similiar replies on this thread, "I wish I could like them like everyone else does" kinda thing. It's okay to hate shit that everyone else likes! I do it all the time!

Their loss, our gain.

I think a better alternate title for this thread would be, "What band did you mildly enjoy at first but then grew to love after many many listens?" That would make more sense than "HEY, WHAT BAND DID YOU FORCE UPON YOURSELF SO YOU COULD BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND PROCLAIM YOUR LOVE FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO AND THEN YOU ENDED UP HATIN THAT SHIT BAND ANYWAY."

Of course I'm kidding.

But only a little bit.

And demonrail, you're a good dude.

And Possibly You Ended Up In A Mental Hospital For Exposing Your Delicate Ears To The Sound Of Katrina On Record. And Deaf For Nothing Too.

See, I want to hear some legitimately challenging music.

Music that literally challenges me. Hopefully to an arm wrestling contest because I'm pretty good in those.

you know, nation of ulysses were a harsh listen at first. grew to love them, and the make up plus weird war. the fall also. in the hip-hop section; company flow (which i mean more el-p) where a bit much at first, but then i started liking him too, his parter big juss was easier to digest at first.

MadCapLaughs, no offense, answer the thread however you'd like.

But he's asking for bands you hated no matter how much you listened.

I challenge the music more than it challenges me. There is literally nothing that a record can do to challenge me personally. That's not the point of why I love listening to music in the first place, anyway. And it's not like I have easy listening on all the time either.

Porkmarras, we haven't had any epic page-long arguments lately. So, I challenge you.

Go on, then. I'm challenging you to challenge me. Let's see who comes out victorious after our internet duel. Prepare yourself for the worst, and don't leave your records scattered on the floor, or it'll just make me think that they're not worth it.

ah. i'm a bit hung over. i think i saw the thread and read the last couple posts, one being the one you put up about the alternate titles for the thread. which meant there was probably some battle over a term or definition or how you shouldn't conform or something. but you put something like this thread should be called "bands you mildly enjoyed at first but then grew to like after man ylistens" i think thats what you wrote, i'll check again. as far bands i hated no matter how many times i listened to them, there are so many there is no point in even naming them.

eh i give up pork

even if i hadn't, my post score is lucky as fuck, I would've won.

I completely agree.

I've been on many music oriented forums in my 7 years of going on the internet for hours a day, and while some of them including this one have members who know what they like and don't bother with what they don't like, I've stumbled upon forums where some members just suck up to more veteran posters and just seem to follow their music taste even if they don't like it. Yet if I post that I don't like the band I get shit from other members.

Possibly why I like this board more than most of the other ones I've posted on in the past, people are very open here and I like that nature in the internet and real life. I seriously hate stupid elitist internet users who think everyone should listen to the exact same bands as them and bully people into thinking that their music taste is "right". Luckily there is not much of that here and people here are generally very chill about things.

But yeah, I digress, people should learn to just like what they like and other people should accept that other people don't like their favourite bands or whatever. I learned that greatly when I actually started hanging out with people I'm friends with. This goes for movies as well I guess, a lot of people in my life seem to think that I don't like movies because everyone else likes them, when in actual truth I just don't like most modern mainstream cinema.

Whatever, I think I've completely missed the point of what I'm trying to say.

I don't really try to like anything I don't like. If anything I don't give some music enough of a chance.

Perhaps. :(

Right, your reply to the other fellow and another day was more than enough for me to reconsider my argument. I was arguing a defense for reasonable patience with music and I took your position as extreme exclusivity. We were arguing the same thing but against polar extremes, I think.

I don't judge a band soley off of one song, but if I hear a few of them and don't like them I won't listen to that band. It isn't so much about forcing yourself to like something because you think you should, or dropping a band or any of that bullshit. To me it's just about your current state of mind when you hear a band.

The first time I heard the Black Lips, I didnt like it (this was a few years ago). I didnt listen to them again.

About a year ago I was at a party and heard them, then saw one of their live shows, and it was the 'right' time for me to hear that music, you know? Cuz taste often changes, and circumstances and moods when you hear a band has a big part to play.

They are now one of my favorite bands.

Also in my opinion,music is about self-discovery, self-expression, and a just getting away. If it moves you, it's for you, if it doesnt, it's not.

I don't get the whole challenging thing, if you wan't a challenge go start a duel, andrew jackson style!

(which could happen sooner or later looking at how this thread is going)

This guy talks sense.

i like muisccccccccccc

I never really tried to like any bands. I tried not to hate Dinosaur Jr.