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Llain 11.17.2007 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
yeah, isn't anything is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. it actually sounds like an amazing experimental rock band! feed me with your kiss is the best grunge song ever! listen to it, it's fucking grunge! loveless is great and certainly better from an "influential" standpoint, only because they managed to create these amazing songs of tons of guitars without it sounding like pure noise. i think loveless, though, is a PRIME candidate for an album that needs remastering: the drums sound TERRIBLE (tinniest drum sound next to a fucknig black metal album) and most of the songs are a bit too ... i mean, the layers are there, but it's all kind of just sitting there, not doing anything. loveliescrushing bested mbv at their own game in that department and with only a 4 track!

just my opinion, i know no one else agrees, but... loveless is a good ambient soundtrack to college couples making out (if you can find a stereo that will make the volume go up enough; it's a pretty quiet album), but isn't anything will make you laugh, cry, and rock at the same time.



Congratulations! You have successfully plagiarised Mark Prindle's review of My Bloody Valentine!

http://www.markprindle.com/mybloody.htm

Isn't Anything Review:

"Feed Me With Your Kiss" is a darned grunge song! Tell me it isn't!!!!"/ "feed me with your kiss is the best grunge song ever! listen to it, it's fucking grunge!"

Loveless Review:

"What's with the tinny shitty drum sound? You'd think that a band that places such an impact on sonic fullness would have taken care of that by this point in their existence."/ "the drums sound TERRIBLE (tinniest drum sound next to a fucknig black metal album"

"This has more of a "college couple making out in the dark with candles on" feel to it. "/ "loveless is a good ambient soundtrack to college couples making out"

Hmmm, why do you pay so much credence to to review to the extent that your "opinion" is at times identical to someone elses? I find this a bit weird. Unless it's all a big coincidence!

" just my opinion, i know no one else agrees"

Ugh, yeah, apart from Mark Prindle!

_slavo_ 11.17.2007 11:32 AM

PWNED!

A Thousand Threads 11.17.2007 12:22 PM

haha, that was funny!

I don't know, i like MBV, but i'm not really excited about all that jazz

nicfit 11.17.2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by A Thousand Threads
I don't know, i like MBV, but i'm not really excited about all that jazz

Same here.
Were they amazingly good live "back in the days"?

h8kurdt 11.17.2007 12:49 PM

Well atsonicpark just got well and truely owned.

I'm just extremely glad that i've managed to get tickets to see them. Wioll it be worth it? Better bloody had be!

Cantankerous 11.17.2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Llain
Congratulations! You have successfully plagiarised Mark Prindle's review of My Bloody Valentine!

http://www.markprindle.com/mybloody.htm

Isn't Anything Review:

"Feed Me With Your Kiss" is a darned grunge song! Tell me it isn't!!!!"/ "feed me with your kiss is the best grunge song ever! listen to it, it's fucking grunge!"

Loveless Review:

"What's with the tinny shitty drum sound? You'd think that a band that places such an impact on sonic fullness would have taken care of that by this point in their existence."/ "the drums sound TERRIBLE (tinniest drum sound next to a fucknig black metal album"

"This has more of a "college couple making out in the dark with candles on" feel to it. "/ "loveless is a good ambient soundtrack to college couples making out"

Hmmm, why do you pay so much credence to to review to the extent that your "opinion" is at times identical to someone elses? I find this a bit weird. Unless it's all a big coincidence!

" just my opinion, i know no one else agrees"

Ugh, yeah, apart from Mark Prindle!

HAHAHA

Toilet & Bowels 11.17.2007 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
woo fuckers
had them posted to my boyfriends uncle


i've heard that one before!

Cantankerous 11.17.2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i've heard that one before!

this is my bloody valentine, NOT sonic youth.

Toilet & Bowels 11.17.2007 03:06 PM

yeah yeah.

i reserve my right to skepticism young lady.

Florya 11.17.2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by king_buzzo




the tickets are sold out


the tickets

are


sold


ou




MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!


Not so my foulmouthed friend.
I purchased two tickets for the Sunday show not 30 minutes ago. Check the Roundhouse website. They might still have some left.

h8kurdt 11.17.2007 08:42 PM

Hey,
I've a piddling Glasgow ticket up for sale (face price of course) and was wondering if anyone wants it...

PAULYBEE2656 11.18.2007 09:04 AM

isnt it funny when a band everyone loves reforms or becomes popular agin that everyone decides they are to be knocked........

The Lung 11.18.2007 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I would feel more sorry for you if it wasn't for the fact that you see being awake at 9 am as a hardship. :rolleyes:


Hey I get up at 5am 4 days a week so on my days off I think I am entitled to be lazy. Anyway all is swell now, I have tickets for the sunday shows at london and manchester so i'm happy :)

Cantankerous 11.18.2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
yeah yeah.

i reserve my right to skepticism young lady.

that you do. i reserve the right to prance around in my knickers (love that word) because i get to see my bloody fucking valentine.

sarramkrop 11.19.2007 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PAULYBEE2656
isnt it funny when a band everyone loves reforms or becomes popular agin that everyone decides they are to be knocked........


Not so, my friend. My Bloody Valentine were a truly great band when they had a right to ba called a band, but you can't deny that this is fraud, unless the original members (or more than one of them) was in this incarnation.

Sorry, but this is just not the My Bloody Valentine that I have experienced and it is sad that a younger generation get to see the shadow of them playing live. This is not to say that the gigs are going to be bad, nobody can tell till they play them.

Guest Informant 11.19.2007 06:59 AM

What are you on about? Do you mean it's not MBV unless Dave Conway and Tina are playing? The line-up for the forthcoming gigs is Kevin, Bilinda, Debbie and Colm, unless you know something we don't.

sarramkrop 11.19.2007 07:11 AM

It seems like you know more than I do. Read the thread.

Guest Informant 11.19.2007 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
apparently it's going to be kevin shields, mani from the stoner roses on bass, bobby gillespie on the other guitar and reni from the stone roses on drums, plus the girl from the kills doing the female vocals.


Oh, you mean this??? Come on, that's a joke, shirley? Debbie Googe has built the official website herself and the posters/tickets have a picture of the classic line-up. Bobby Gillespie on guitar!

therealglenstyler 11.19.2007 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
apparently it's going to be kevin shields, mani from the stoner roses on bass, bobby gillespie on the other guitar and reni from the stone roses on drums, plus the girl from the kills doing the female vocals.


ew ew ew. not funny.

sarramkrop 11.19.2007 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Guest Informant
Oh, you mean this??? Come on, that's a joke, shirley? Debbie Googe has built the official website herself and the posters/tickets have a picture of the classic line-up. Bobby Gillespie on guitar!


If that's the case, my heartfelt apologies.

Florya 11.19.2007 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
If that's the case, my heartfelt apologies.


I was beginning to wonder if you'd gone barmy.:)

Bobby Gillespie?! Pshaw!

atsonicpark 11.19.2007 10:13 AM

ELVIS.

Everyneurotic 11.19.2007 10:39 AM

if bilinda, debbie and colm are not in the band, why not bill it as "the kevin shields experience presenting the songs of my bloody valentine"? oh right...

anyhoo, if kevin shields and his new smashing pumpkins came to mexico, i would surely go see him because i'd love to hear mbv songs live, although i doubt they can be played by just anyone. i love mbv to bits, but call it for what it is and stop the nostalgia cash in!!!!

atsonicpark 11.19.2007 10:43 AM

just call it "feedback out of loud amps cuz we needed money "

Florya 11.19.2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
if bilinda, debbie and colm are not in the band.


But they ARE in the band! Kevin Shields says so, all the publicity I have read says so, and the poster has their photo's on it.

Who actually knows any different? Show me your sources.

Everyneurotic 11.19.2007 11:09 AM

a) where have you read this, bloodbeach? seems to me they always mention kevin shields and that's it.

b) the posters, well, it's not like they are new photos; besides, would you go see them if the poster said "my bloody valentine" and you only recognized one face in the pic?

bottomline is, it says "reunion" but so it said with the smashing pumpkins.

eatmychild 11.19.2007 11:32 AM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Guest Informant again.

auto-aim 11.19.2007 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I don't understand why they don't just announce two dates in the first place, and let everyone have the choice of dates from the very start.


because if they only sold one ticket respectivly for each show they'd be fucked. I dont think anyone expected it to sell like it has. Maybe they did. ohhhhh

but yeah i was also under the impression it was original line-up where the hell did the other info came from. That VBS interview ol' kev said something about it not just being up to him this time because the others were involved.

Should I expect the amount of noise, or whatever, to freak out my friends?

sarramkrop 11.19.2007 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Florya
But they ARE in the band! Kevin Shields says so, all the publicity I have read says so, and the poster has their photo's on it.

Who actually knows any different? Show me your sources.


Are you sure about this?

eatmychild 11.19.2007 12:05 PM

Somebody now wishes they had bought tickets.

sonicl 11.19.2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by auto-aim
because if they only sold one ticket respectivly for each show they'd be fucked. I dont think anyone expected it to sell like it has. Maybe they did. ohhhhh

The concept of an MBV reunion has been being hyped for the last fifteen or so years. Anyone who didn't expect massive interest is, well, a little bit silly.

sarramkrop 11.19.2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eatmychild
Somebody now wishes they had bought tickets.


Not really. I generally find reunions a crass form of entertainment, especially if the musicians in question are has-beens with nothing to offer that is either fresh or interesting. Remember this is 2007, not 1991. I have had the pleasure to see MBV when they meant something, not sure about yourself.
The only band that would get me excited if there were talks about a reunion would be Loop, but that is a very unlikely thing to happen, as the gentlemen separate themselves from the plebs like no others.

Florya 11.19.2007 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eatmychild
Somebody now wishes they had bought tickets.


Still can - they've added a fourth London date - Monday 23 June.

auto-aim 11.19.2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
The concept of an MBV reunion has been being hyped for the last fifteen or so years. Anyone who didn't expect massive interest is, well, a little bit silly.


yeah, im from a pretty shit town with shit people so im not sure myself how to gauge things.. I'll rarly bump into a person that knows little beyond nothing. Its kind of like people that'd be into this stuff dont exist.

PAULYBEE2656 11.19.2007 02:04 PM

the mbv 2008 line up is colm, belinda kevin and debbie. i thought debbie ruled herself out of it because of other commitments but obviously the lure of mbv is bigger than the pull of her other band.... snow something???

sarramkrop 11.19.2007 02:07 PM

Snowpony

Glice 11.19.2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Not really. I generally find reunions a crass form of entertainment, especially if the musicians in question are has-beens with nothing to offer that is either fresh or interesting. Remember this is 2007, not 1991. I have had the pleasure to see MBV when they meant something, not sure about yourself.
The only band that would get me excited if there were talks about a reunion would be Loop, but that is a very unlikely thing to happen, as the gentlemen separate themselves from the plebs like no others.


I'm in this boat. It's a real shame I didn't see MBV back in the day, and their records are still pretty good, but I missed it because I was busy being too young, so I might as well get on with my adult life raving about the shows I have seen by people who haven't reformed. ATR in '97, Urusei Yatsura in '97, Melt Banana in '99, Keiji Haino and NNCK several times... you get the idea.

Having said that, one of my favourite shows of the year was by Faust.

Savage Clone 11.19.2007 02:34 PM

Faust never actually broke up though, did they?
They're just geezers is all.

I saw MBV back in the day, and was underwhelmed. It was the loudest show I have ever seen, but that was the most noteworthy thing about it.
To be fair, I know a lot of people who saw the same show and thought it was incredible, but I was not one of them. And I was totally jacked to see them too.
I actually enjoyed Ride's first tour and Slowdive much more live.

Glice 11.19.2007 02:41 PM

I'm pretty sure Faust went on hiatus/ split up after Faust IV, then 're-grouped' in the mid-90s. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Actually, don't correct me, you'll still be dead inside whatever.

I think with someone like Faust, or Silver Apples (I'm well excited about seeing them this year) or a handful of others is that they never got their dues back in the day. Although Faust did sell loads of the Faust tapes. Still, I'm sure there are plenty of bands out there who need a smidge more credit. The Monks re-union didn't come to much. Whereas MBV are in a million 'best of' lists. They're not as vaunted as some bands, but they're certainly vaunted a gash-load more than many genuinely better bands.

Savage Clone 11.19.2007 02:50 PM

OK then, I'll take your word for it.
I saw Silver Apples in 1997 and they were still pretty great.
Michael Yonkers' re-emergence is one of the greatest things I have had the pleasure to witness.
Mani Neumeier of Guru Guru has totally still got it too.

I'm sure MBV will do very well for themselves with this.


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