fucking great race! thats what f1 needs, rain and plenty ofit. massa and kubica on the last lap was stunning if not stupid. kimi was a star. lewis is almost there. great great season indeed!

button at mclaren, yeah id love it but i reckon alonso wont go anywhere, he is too stubborn for that unless ferarri come knocking as they ship massa off to toyota when they say good riddance to ralf! great race, roll on china....

why is this thread still alive, because people post in it king buzzo. you dont like the sport, dont post in the thread....simple!

I can't see Alonso being able to live with a hostile MacLaren team, whatever his wishes. Hamilton's interview prior to today's race was very telling. Something about how the team had done all it could to make Alonso welcome, and then 'look what he did to the team'.

An amazing race, which managed to transcend recent controversies. Today was about racing, not back room intrigue, and it proved that in such a purely driver-led scenario, Kimi and Hamilton are head and shoulders above the rest. Hamilton especially gave the perfect drive today. Genuinely faultless.

All that today was totally compulsive viewing and also Bananas

remember about lewis's interviews. he is just stirring shit! he knows how to play the media. he is just having fun with them. i dont reckon there is ant problem with alonso and mclaren (well maybe with ron dennis) and lewis. they are just highly competitive people. alonso will see out his contract i reckon.

as for th race. i really felt sorry for mark webber. he was on for a great result and possibl win after puking his guts up in the helmet! vettel had a great race and he is another star in the making but a silly error cost him and mark and the whole red bull clongomerate a double podium. hats off to him for admitting guilt totally honestly.

china wont be as good but all lewis has to do is beat alonso to any point to clinch the first championship for a rookie driver. a legend in the making i reckon or is that stating the fucking obvious..............

Lewis gets pole with Alonso 4th. Looks increasingly like China might be the one.

Anythoughts on Hamilton's hearing yesterday?

yep i have one big tought...... BULLSHIT! it took em 5 days and a fucking youtube video to go and complain about lewis's pace car running???? cmon, the rule states that he should keep a certain distance behind the car. its not his job to disiplne the rest of the field. if you ran into someone on the road from behind, you would be to blame regardless of the situation, the same applies under safety cars. webber almost overtook him many times, why did lewis slow down, because he couldnt see with the rain and almost hit the safety car himself........ it was a load of crap, as for alonso backing up the arguements, well he is a loyal team player isnt he!!!?,

lewis was commanding in quali, but i reckon it will be a ferrari 1-2 with alonso batling with lewis. it could be decided tommorrow but it could and maybe will carry over for a 3 way fight in brazil......i can dream....

weather tomorrow.... hellawet!

Unbelievable what happened today. Lewis really did have it in the bag. The idea of Alonso maybe taking the title is too depressing even to contemplate.

another great race. lewis was unlucky, his tyres were fucking shot! you could see the canvas of the tyre for 2 or 3 laps. his pitstop was just unfortunate mistake and at least he had the honesty to say the same!

alonso to win title, yep, that would be an injustice of sorts kimi to win, now that would be incredible, he certainly deserves a shout at it anyway even if he is driving a ferrari.

ok we now have a three way fight for the championship in brazil... i wasnt dreaming after all!!!! im still backing lewis for the fairytale ending!!!!

Will be interesting to say Hamilton's face on the podium if he finishes third and Alonso wins, thus gaining the title. I know people say it's for the cameras but it really does seem as though Hamilton loathes Alonso.

I'm wondering though, if Hamilton does win, how long he'll stick with F1. He's already said how much he hates the politics and I get the feeling he just wants to win everything. If he becomes F1 champion, and especially if he retains the title next year, we may see him go to the US, to see if he can conquer Indy and Nascar.

I couldnt beleive that race yesterday, but i think everyone except Hamilton is happy its going down to the last race. It hasnt been like that for years so lets hope its a goodun. Im tempted to have a small wager on Raikonnen to nick it, I can imagine some terrible incident involving Alonso and Hamilton racing for the lead.

yep. a mclaren scrappage deal may be on the cards especially if they are on the front row. as for lewis leaving, nah, he will be around for a long time and with mclaren..... he is living his boyhood dream and he wont quit the place he loves... why should he? he is about to become champion at 22 for fuck sak! i say fair play to him, regardless of spying or whatever, a truly great f1 story! the only non deserving champ would be alonso, so let hope he gets the scrap wrong a la schumacher vs villeneuve jerez 1997!

ok, here we go. the weekend is here........

isnt it free to air anywhere? where are you d.s.m?

same here for many things ( FUCKING RUGBY TOO, world cup final, uff), but not for F1...yet.

yes, I already used sopcast for a couple games, I'll try again later, but it kinda sucks coz back in the days we would just hang on the couch watching a big tv screen rather than sitting in front of a lame pc

jeez. i have to pay (if i wanted to) for the premier league footy, a1gp (which ireland could well win this year!)and the irl but there is always match of the day and highlights shows on channel 5, sorry 5ive, after that most shit is free to air. there is legislation regarding f1 tv rights and i thought that they had to supply free to air coverage to countries, well saying that, f1 isnt aired on irish terresrtial tv, just on the pay setanta sports sattelite thingy but we get english stations here and its still free to air on the itvs......

massa vs lewis turn one? i fancy lewis has this one, unless he is pushed off. alonso looked relativly nowhere in the qualis.

any of you guys have the motors tv channel on satellites, thats fucking awesome. great racing live on it. eurosport is great too for the wtcc, champ cars and the bikes but motors covers the dtm and tonnes of as live reruns

oh yeah... champ cars in surfers paradise austrailia this morning at 4am or something... worth checking out big time!

Weirdly nervous about today's race. Hamilton ahead of Kimi and Alonso on the grid so all should go to plan but, as we know, Lewis has a bit of a wild streak that might see him tussling with Massa into that first corner.

id more fear massas wild streak to be honest! massa takes lewis out, delays alonso, kimi wins! i know you cant do team orders (one of the dumbest ruls ever in the history of dumb rules) but there is ways around it!

Eww, if Massa took Hamilton out it'd be enquiry city. If I were Lewis I'd give the race to Massa. Let him run off into the distance and just keep some distance between himself and Kimi and Alonso - who I think are really just hoping that Lewis has to retire over something. Given the whole 'fair play' thing going on within Maclaren, I don't think Alonso would dare pull a dodgy move on Hamilton (assuming he even gets close enough to him) and it seems like Kimi has already given up on the idea of winning the title through racing.

So long as Hamilton gets around the first corner intact I think it'll be a fairly dull race, with both Alonso and Kimi resigning themselves to defeat. At least that's what I hope.

yeah but whats alonso got to lose? he aint gonna be with mclaren next year and massa winning the race isnt gonna help kimi and ferrari are immune to all fia rulings as we all know. so i reckon massa will head off at the slowest possible pace, back up the mclarens to a point where something will give. allow kimi to fly ahead and then hope that the mclarens will trip up on each other. i dont reckon it will happen but you cant rule anything out this year....

ha ha ha

Aaaahhhh!

The only good I can say about it is that at least Kimi got there instead of Alonso. Even given that, it's difficult to stomach the idea of a double title victory for Ferrari.

It's mechanical/team decisions in the last two races that've ultimately cost Hamilton the title: a stupid tyre decision in China and what looks like a dodgy gearbox here.


Losing the Rugby last night was bad, but at least I could say that the better team won. I just can't say that about this F1 season.

Atleast West Ham won today, I suppose.

i have to say.... well done kimi. he deserves it. lewis and mclaren lost the championship in the pitlane gravel in shanghai but lewis just plainly bottled it when alonso went by. he had no need to race alonso, just tuck in behind him and follow him. but also, lewis drove some fucking race, why oh why was he 3 stopping tho, that seemd strange. if he was 2 stopping i reckon he would have grabbed the 5th place! nevermind, one thing lewis showed this year is that he is a born racer, a pure talent and a gracious loser. his smile after the race spoke a thousand words. the story may have been too good to be true but still, what a story!!!!!

what an amazing championship, politics aside, its been the best season ive seen and ive been watching it since i was 5 years old, 1979 was my first memory of being enthralled by the sport. and to have kimi, the outsider, to clinch the trophy by one point basically on the last lap is just brilliant. i know i said id never support another ferrari driver after the stepneygate affair but i cant help applaud kimi for what he has done and feel so so sorry for mark webber, he has to get a break some time soon!


roll on melbourne in march...

as for the interim... ireland to win the a1gp this year with adam carroll! watch him, that guy is good!

I agree that Kimi needs congratulating. I just have a real dislike for Ferarri which makes it difficult to see beyond. Even so, I'm actually sort of glad Lewis lost out this year anyway, seeing as how the season is now so tainted by scandal and that any kind of MacLaren title victory would've been viewed slightly suspiciously.

We'll see next year, when all's square and the dust has settled, if Lewis has managed to iron out those few minor faults in his character in order to take the championship.

lewis has got all the experience he needs for a 22 year old. he won 4 difficult races this year. he did more test miles than pedro and fernando put together before melbourne. he has experienced the highs and lows and the annoyance of f1 in his first full year of f1 racing. remember this kid has won countless championships which are much more racier than f1 will ever bee, f renault, f3, gp2... kimi only ever did f renault in britain before f1!!!!!!!

what lewis needs is a bit more patience, not to get embroiled in racing against people he doent need to, kimi in china and fernando in brazil. his pace when out in front is mesmerising and his pace in catching up is the same, see yesterday when he came from 18th. thats pure racing spirit a la gilles villeneuve, ayrton and to a point mickey schumacher. this kid is gonna be huge, what am i saying, he is huge, he will be champoin maybe not next year but sometime.... and thats the point!

cant agree, remember that a ferrari employee was to blame for all this! mclaren got a stupid punishment and ferrari got off scott free!

fia= ferrari international aid. no team is bigger than the sport. someday max will be overthrown just like he overthrew jean marie balestre in the mid 80s.

the bullshit stops when the flag drops (or when the 5 sequencial red lights go out)

no its due today or tomorrow but yknow, the title shouldnt be stripped from kimi. thats not right. lewis hs even said that he doesnt want to win the title that way. if the points are stripped then fine, rule breaking is rule breaking after all but i really hope they dont take the crown from kimi, the season was good enough not to have it decided a week after the event in a paris boardroom. a penalty for the teams involved for the next race in melbourne, a points deduction or a ten place penalty (no thats dumb, i always hate that rule because it favours teams that are gonna qualify eleventh or lower), ban them from qualifying in melbourne or force em to start from the pitlane. thats fine, but leave 07 alone, the history books have been updated already.

alonso has just quit mclaren due his belief that dennis favoured lewis over the whole year. he has walked out of his 3 year contract after only 1 year! briatore andrenault are delighted id say. swap heiki for fernando. job done!

Safety concerns end Dakar Rally
The 2008 Dakar Rally has been cancelled because of safety concerns in the African republic of Mauritania.

thanks a lot for fucking my weekend

ha ha!! the yellow bar has shown his true colours!!! i had a feeling it was you alright!!!!!!

yeah dakar being pulled was in my opinion a mistake. it has played right into the hands of the terrorists, ok they didnt want competitors blown up or what have you but i now reckon that that is it for the dakar, no more will we see this awesome event take place, the animals of humanity have spoken and they won! sad sad shame...

on another topic, f1 looks to be wicked for 08. the 2 new tracks especially singapore look amazing! new thread to be started next month i reckon for the handful of petrolheads here!

yeah, i was a bit pissed about dakar because i was planning to go watch it like i usually do since the competition began to start in lisbon and carlos sousa was so confident about a place on the top this year.

yesterday, i saw the new ferrari and heard about new rules on the news.

they had to change the aerodynamics because of the new rules on the electronic controls, cant wait to see the new mclaren!

it will be interesting to see who can really handle those beasts.

Formula One title to be decided on wins not points, say FIA


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle5924992.ece

Hmm. New rule to start this season means that the driver's championship will be decided on wins rather than points. If the rule had come in last year then Massa would have won the title (winning six races to Hamilton's five).

Thoughts?