The Belgians are great. Great chocolates and they never try and big up their country the way the Dutch always seem to.

Well ofcourse belgians are great, The Kids aren't.

London Calling is a great Rock n Roll album that's only really considered punk because of who made it. Sandanista even more so. That's about as Punk as a basket full of puppies. Underrated as fuck, too.

You must spread more free tokens for Febo (Dutch food vending machines emporium) before being run over by a tram in front of Demonrail again.

try telling pete townsend that. He thought they were alright.

i like their record. that's it. mostly because of 'fascist cops'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u0wwCfoJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiQoq-wqZxg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t9vDfQYg7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R2_4...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqRLx...eature=related

When it comes to the Kids, Chris Langham likes to be in The Thick Of It.

The standard comment about Sandinista is that it's patchy, should've been a single album etc. And this really winds me up something rotten because I love it from beginning to end.

I've never heard them, but will make it a point to give them a go.

Bearing in mind I can't watch youtube, explain in words.

Yeah that song is alright, I'm just saying that it's just wrong to see some fat old bald guy singing about fascist cops. It doesn't come off you know? ... Am I making any sense? I had a wild party last night and I haven''t been able to think straight all day...

Quite. i can see why the patchy comment is made, but think people miss use it in this case, when what they maybe should be saying is that it goes all over the place (in a good way, in my opinion). My favourite album of theirs in lots of ways. Definitely the one I listen to the most, anyway.

finding all those clips made the wax in my ears double in both volume and viscosity.

Here be some footage of The Kids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MBsf...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF3FN...eature=related

the kids- fascist cops

really this is the only songyou need and actually since i've thought of it, it's the only reason why i ever listen to that record. stale.

Is that good or bad?

london calling should have been a single disc album.

One of my fave punk moments ever (on the audio front, at least):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A6050vJXgY

ha-de-blooody-ha

"There will be no next time" was their best song in my opinion.

i don't have that. i've never heard anything except off that one album

That's great. But can i be the first to say that Fascist Cops sounds exactly like EMI? Good stuff though.

seeing their faces ruined it

Yeah, Ferris Buellers Day Off style punks. Not good! Great song though.

well, that depends on whether you like the clash. i'm slightly at a loss trying to explain myself anyway, as to me the clash are synonymous with stodge and i'm baffled that anyone could disagree.

Isn't it frustrating when you know a band is bad, but people don't realise it? It's the same for me with the Stooges. Now there's stodge.

Of course, it's you that's wrong in this case.

ok, well not including white riot, explain how they aren't stodgy.

It's not up to me to explain. You're the accuser.

I accept that there are fools who don't like them, I just don't see the stodgy factor.

I think The Clash had stodgy politics (well Strummer, anyway) and I'm not a fan of the production on their first album, but I wouldn't say they were musically stodgy at all. Very tight, very direct. The opposite of stodgy in my book. Saying that, my favourite album of theirs, Sandanista, could reasonably be described as being a bit stodgy, but only in the same way that, say, Prince's Sign o' the Times might be described as such.

That's what I should've said. No stodge. Tight and direct. Very good you neg repping bastard (I haven't forgotten).

gobshite dire straights is what they are

Weirdo.

Nor have I stopped scratching since you got unreasonable with that spider picture. You are, I believe, the only person I've ever neg-repped since being here.

I don't know what to say.

I use to get neg rep all the time. I had a tear when I saw that little red box. Reminded me of darker times.

Permit me to be a bit of a prat here, and say that the first Dire Straits album isn't that bad at all. Later efforts are, of course, beyond the pale, but that first album. Well, it's alright really.

I'm neg repped constantly. Seriously. If I had any kind of self-respect I'd stop coming here altogether. But I don't, so here I am. Again. Personally I don't like neg-repping people. But I dunno, spiders. That's just a bit much in my book.

Who neg reps you?

I can't imagine anybody being offended by anything you say.

Bored witless yes, offended no.

That was a joke incidentally. Just in case your neg repping finger is twitching.

I won't say who. But I will say that, if anything, they're even more boring than I am. which should narrow things down considerably.