Sonic Youth Gossip

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Sonic Youth Gossip (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/index.php)

- Non-Sonic Sounds (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/forumdisplay.php?f=4)

- - MATH ROCK (http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=23462)

greedrex

07.15.2008 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

totally forgot colossamite and dazzling killmen.

they're both like jazzy noise rock or something... but they fit.

nah they don't
this is noisy rock/post hardcore
pretty violent
this Sakes boy is....angry

now people
what about PROTONOISE
who would care to elaborate on the PROTO thing?
huh?
he he

sarramkrop

07.15.2008 08:11 AM

You start a thread about math rock and you don't even know what you're talking about. Are you mad?

atsonicpark

07.15.2008 08:14 AM

Dazzling Killmen were one of the most accomplished 1990s math rock bands, combining a punk-inspired noisy ruckus with jazzy Sun Ra-type intelligence and complex arrangements.

greedrex

07.15.2008 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

You start a thread about math rock and you don't even know what you're talking about. Are you mad?

twat

i know all there is to know about MATHROCK
so i can TEACH YOU if you like

There are LOADS of other types/genres of music i have no clue about for sure

now i'm asking about PROTOBLAH
of which i have no clue about
but i'd like to know
like Polvo for instance were often refered to as PROTONOISE
i'm not saying it's interesting

twat

atsonicpark

07.15.2008 08:19 AM

protonoise? never heard that one...

greedrex

07.15.2008 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Dazzling Killmen were one of the most accomplished 1990s math rock bands, combining a punk-inspired noisy ruckus with jazzy Sun Ra-type intelligence and complex arrangements.

nah they are many degrees of separation between what i see/ hear as mathrock and dazzling killmen or even more so colossamite which are both kool bands in their own right.
For some reason, TO ME , mathrock is instrumental and not especially violent.

but once again music genres and subgenres are bullshit at the end of the day.

sarramkrop

07.15.2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex

First you call Shellac, Paul Newman, June of 44 and Uzeda etc math rock, and then you call me a twat when I'm clearly being a CUNT to you. Now now.....

batreleaser

07.15.2008 08:27 AM

what the fuck is protonoise? like nihilist spasm band? no theyre just improv noise. the godz then? nope. explain, what is protonoise? i mean, if the music is noise, its gotta be noise, correct?

atsonicpark

07.15.2008 08:42 AM

"proto" is an interesting term at least.

Rob Instigator

07.15.2008 08:45 AM

i like and own a lot of math rock albums. good stuff to smoke to.

greedrex

07.15.2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

First you call Shellac, Paul Newman, June of 44 and Uzeda etc math rock, and then you call me a twat when I'm clearly being a CUNT to you. Now now.....

stop making a twat of yourself
i explained myself on the Shellac mention (read the xhole thread)
Paul Newman yes of course, it's coherent
I didn't call June of 44 or Shipping News math rock bceause imo, they're not, Others did.
and well Uzeda or so related to Don Cab i had to mention it although you're right, the siniging is prominenet and well it's more noise rock than math if you ask me, but i would shelve Uzeda records right next to Don Cab and Bellini so yeah

cunt cunt

greedrex

07.15.2008 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

i like and own a lot of math rock albums. good stuff to smoke to.

he he

greedrex

07.15.2008 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

"proto" is an interesting term at least.

proto...type i guess, but why prototype, like it's experimental or....???

sarramkrop

07.15.2008 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex

Maths doing your head in, eh?

atsonicpark

07.15.2008 08:58 AM

the inside of my ass crack itches.

o o o

07.15.2008 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser

what the fuck is protonoise? like nihilist spasm band? no theyre just improv noise. the godz then? nope. explain, what is protonoise? i mean, if the music is noise, its gotta be noise, correct?

Luigi Russolo?

(in any case, if anyone is supposed to be described as protonoise, it should be in principle guys like him...)

greedrex

07.15.2008 09:33 AM

i swear i heard this protonoise thing a few times

PROTOPUNK
you must have heard this before , no?

o o o

07.15.2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex

PROTOPUNK
you must have heard this before , no?

yes, i heard it for the Electric Eels and Rocket From The Tombs... and probably others...

you can add the proto- prefix to anything, but then probably comes endless discussions about what can be qualified as proto, who was first, etc...

Quote:

Etymology
From Ancient Greek πρωτο- (proto-), combination form of πρώτος (protos), “‘first’”), superlative of προ (pro), “‘before’”).

Prefix

proto-

Used to make words in which it has the meaning "first".
(linguistics) Used to form the name of the hypothetical ancestor of a family of languages.Proto-Indo-European is the ancestor of the Indo-European languages.

Everyneurotic

07.15.2008 09:50 AM

bellini suck.

Rob Instigator

07.15.2008 10:03 AM

bellini the painter was allright

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