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ZEROpumpkins 02.23.2008 11:15 PM

I'd like to point out that Heaven's Gate and Jonestown are two seperate things. Jonestown was...just fucked up.

Alex's Trip 02.23.2008 11:28 PM

 


I want those shoes.

ZEROpumpkins 02.23.2008 11:33 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Where'd you find that pic?

Alex's Trip 02.23.2008 11:35 PM

Google. But for reals, anyone know what specific Nikes they are?

ZEROpumpkins 02.23.2008 11:38 PM

They look like Soccer shoes but Wiki says they are tennis shoes. Can't help any further than that, sorry.

Alex's Trip 02.23.2008 11:59 PM

Oh and as for Heaven's Gate, no one will know if what they believed in to be the after life was true, unless of course, there actually is an after life where you can ponder over your beliefs you held while you were alive.

ZEROpumpkins 02.24.2008 12:07 AM

But given that I am a hardcore atheist, I'm taking the "There is no afterlife" stance on this matter.

Cantankerous 02.24.2008 12:30 AM

just goes to show you how far people are willing to go for their faith. that's some really scary dedication right there.
i myself would never be brave enough to kill myself, needless to say i wouldn't do it to find out if i would be beamed up into space, although i must say that would be pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
I'd like to point out that Heaven's Gate and Jonestown are two seperate things. Jonestown was...just fucked up.

but it provided a good band with a brilliant name.

ZEROpumpkins 02.24.2008 12:39 AM

The thing that really disturbed me about Jonestown was the fact that the children were forced to drink poisoned Kool Aid, and they had no idea what was going on... And there was this audio tape where Jim Jones is speaking, telling the parents how to deal with it and stuff, and there's kids crying and screaming in the background. It's seriously fucked up stuff.

Cantankerous 02.24.2008 12:43 AM

cult members are some of the most fucked up people ever to walk the planet. a long time ago i read in some magazine, spin or rolling stone or something, about this teenage-holy-war-crusade-religious-cult thing and it was absolutely insane (i probably have this article somewhere, i'll post it if i can find it). what it comes down to is that these teenage kids have basically been totally brainwashed...
edit im looking for it on wikipedia
edit again - haha one of the heavens gate members was named thurston-ody

ZEROpumpkins 02.24.2008 12:50 AM

Yeah! I remember that, it was in Rolling Stone. It was about that rock concert in a stadium that was like a youth gathering of militant Christians, right? That made me mad, that.

Haha I noticed the Thurston-ody thing too.

Norma J 02.24.2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
 


You know what? I thought UFOs etc was a bunch of crock. But one day I was standing at the door looking through the screen, just staring out to the thick grey clouds in the sky, but it wasn't so normal. no. the clouds were like an inversed mushroom cloud. it was late afternoon, red orange sky with alot of grey thrown in. and as I was staring at the cloud for no particular reason, this thing, a little light hovering thing came out of the big hole in the clouds and it hovered for a second and then shot off ito the sky again, but this time not through the hole. and it didn't look to unlike the light in your picture, except there was a huge hole in the clouds.

Cantankerous 02.24.2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins
Yeah! I remember that, it was in Rolling Stone. It was about that rock concert in a stadium that was like a youth gathering of militant Christians, right? That made me mad, that.

Haha I noticed the Thurston-ody thing too.

yes i believe so. i think the article was titled 'teenage holy war'.

ZEROpumpkins 02.24.2008 12:59 AM

Yep. That's the one. If I weren't doing homework I'd google it and try to find the organisation on Wikipedia.
EDIT: Fuck that, here's the article http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...enage_holy_war

Cantankerous 02.24.2008 01:04 AM

that pisses me off. those kids deserve better.

Dead-Air 02.24.2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
You know what? I thought UFOs etc was a bunch of crock. But one day I was standing at the door looking through the screen, just staring out to the thick grey clouds in the sky, but it wasn't so normal. no. the clouds were like an inversed mushroom cloud. it was late afternoon, red orange sky with alot of grey thrown in. and as I was staring at the cloud for no particular reason, this thing, a little light hovering thing came out of the big hole in the clouds and it hovered for a second and then shot off ito the sky again, but this time not through the hole. and it didn't look to unlike the light in your picture, except there was a huge hole in the clouds.


Huh. The interesting thing for me about the picture is I didn't notice the unidentified flying thing in it until I looked at it later. I've had a pretty weird ufo sighting too, but it wan't much like this. It was more like something out of Star Wars visually, and it was in the Nisqually area outside Olympia in Washington state, which isn't too far from Mt. Rainier where some of the first ever ufos were seen in 1947.

Personally, I tend to think most of these things are experimental military craft more likely than extra-terrestrial. The stealth fighter sure must have set off innumerable ufo sightings when it was top secret, and it was in my area where they were testing it.

But then you're in Australia, so U.S. military explanations are harder to make work. And I don't think you're a former acid head like me either...

ZEROpumpkins 02.24.2008 02:02 AM

Yes, I believe in the military aircraft theory as well. We have the technology (apparently).

m1rr0r dash 02.24.2008 02:51 AM

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nice photo, man. i like! :)

ZEROpumpkins 02.24.2008 03:16 AM

Dead Air, I might use that photo for my next album cover, is that cool?


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