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cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.04.2007 07:34 PM

i hate nazis and commies

!@#$%! 04.04.2007 08:06 PM

them commies want your trust fund.

who is the nazi? moore? cmon... xplain??

Everyneurotic 04.04.2007 08:07 PM

he's an extreme nationalist, doesn't like foreigners and actually hates bush because he's doing war against the arabs but still makes business with them.

!@#$%! 04.04.2007 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
he's an extreme nationalist, doesn't like foreigners and actually hates bush because he's doing war against the arabs but still makes business with them.


oh... i think his denounciations of bush's business ties w/ arab countries are not racist per se, but aimed at linking the iraqi invasion w/ oil interests...

even then-- a nazi..? i haven't heard him proclaim the supremacy of the aryan race nor call for the extermination of jews & gypsies...

demonrail666 04.04.2007 08:24 PM

A Nazi, no, but there is an underlying pandering to patriotism in a lot of what he says about the war in Iraq that I find quite sinister.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.04.2007 08:27 PM

i was just saying i hate nazis and commies

!@#$%! 04.04.2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
A Nazi, no, but there is an underlying pandering to patriotism in a lot of what he says about the war in Iraq that I find quite sinister.


he should go off & see a minister...

no, i don't know, i think he uses the discourse more or less of the disenfranchised working class, unemployed factory workers, etc., and he does claim to love his country. he's not calling for the ethnic cleansing of anything. i find him a lot less scary than the fucking minutemen.

!@#$%! 04.04.2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
i was just saying i hate nazis and commies


yes, and we forgave you, cos we like you, but don't push it.

Everyneurotic 04.04.2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
oh... i think his denounciations of bush's business ties w/ arab countries are not racist per se, but aimed at linking the iraqi invasion w/ oil interests...

even then-- a nazi..? i haven't heard him proclaim the supremacy of the aryan race nor call for the extermination of jews & gypsies...


ok, technically not a nazi, but surely a fascist.

he justifies all his proclaims with economic reasons but he targets foreigners in a very lewd and discriminating ways; it's disturbing what he says about people who are not "blue collar" middle americans. one thing is liking your country, another entirely is humiliating and doing low level comments at other countries or other people from abroad just so you make your country look better.

yeah, the minutemen are scary but it's people like michael moore who encourage a justification of their actions.

and he's one of the worst comedians i've ever seen or heard.

!@#$%! 04.04.2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
ok, technically not a nazi, but surely a fascist.

he justifies all his proclaims with economic reasons but he targets foreigners in a very lewd and discriminating ways; it's disturbing what he says about people who are not "blue collar" middle americans. one thing is liking your country, another entirely is humiliating and doing low level comments at other countries or other people from abroad just so you make your country look better.

yeah, the minutemen are scary but it's people like michael moore who encourage a justification of their actions.

and he's one of the worst comedians i've ever seen or heard.


that's peculiar; i'm an immigrant and ive never been offended by his shit; but if you can point me to some material that would give me reason i can start hating him pretty quick.

and the terrible comedian...

wait, aren't you confusing michael moore with someone else? like that twat dennis miller?? the description fits...


 

drrrtyboots 04.04.2007 09:15 PM

He died in Team America: World Police and since that's one of the most accurate depictions of America i've ever seen, it's obvious that he's deceased now so lets just forget about him ok?

Everyneurotic 04.04.2007 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that's peculiar; i'm an immigrant and ive never been offended by his shit; but if you can point me to some material that would give me reason i can start hating him pretty quick.

and the terrible comedian...

wait, aren't you confusing michael moore with someone else? like that twat dennis miller?? the description fits...



 


hahahahaha, good call, they are kinda alike, one's from the left and the other's from the right, though.

i remember a lot of crap he said on that awful truth tv show he had, you are right about the whole trying to defend the working class man, sometimes he takes sides with immigrants to put big business/big money down.

i don't worked up over him, he's just another fascists coming from the left.

Rob Instigator 04.05.2007 10:01 AM

I think when faced with overwhelming asinie consumerism and right wing status quo, one needs a STRONG REACTION, which is what Michael Moore provided.

remember, he was the youngest mayor of his hometown, at age 18. he has never ever claimed to be anything but a voice for the poor the disenfranchised, the working class man and woman of this country (usa) that gets ASS FUCKED on all fronts by the rich getting richer in power.

for that I salute the man.

and speaki9ng of the abu grhaib footage, do you really honestly think that the michael moore haters would not have used his "exposure" of that footage against him? labeling him a seditionist? a threat to national security? a friend to our enemies?
that is an old trick and Bush and his cronies have been using it right and left for the past 7 years.
THINK

!@#$%! 04.05.2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I think when faced with overwhelming asinie consumerism and right wing status quo, one needs a STRONG REACTION, which is what Michael Moore provided.

remember, he was the youngest mayor of his hometown, at age 18. he has never ever claimed to be anything but a voice for the poor the disenfranchised, the working class man and woman of this country (usa) that gets ASS FUCKED on all fronts by the rich getting richer in power.

for that I salute the man.

and speaki9ng of the abu grhaib footage, do you really honestly think that the michael moore haters would not have used his "exposure" of that footage against him? labeling him a seditionist? a threat to national security? a friend to our enemies?
that is an old trick and Bush and his cronies have been using it right and left for the past 7 years.
THINK


so what was the story on the footage man? i looked but google was a mess... oh i should not be so lazy, i'll try again.

but you are right about the fox news propaganda machine.

Rob Instigator 04.05.2007 11:06 AM

I think that if MM had footage of abu ghraib shit (the whole scandal has been swept under th rug like mug, with patsies and fall guys taking the blame as if no superiors told them to torture, fucking asshole administration) and he did not air it, it was a smart decision. if he ahd aired it, like I said earlier, then noone would have just looked at it,a nd instead they wopdl ahve focused solely on the messenger, michael moore, thereby destroying any possible good that cold come out of the footage. also, if he was given the footage by a soldier or soldiers, then they wod have been in serious trouble. the military does not give a flying fck about anonimity of witnesses to the press. It could ahve gotten ugly.

and if that is the best that MM's enemies can come up with then they are the idiots that he calls them.

atari 2600 04.05.2007 11:16 AM

Matt Stone and Trey Parker write some funny stuff sometimes, I still enjoy South Park to an extent, but people seem to not understand that both are Republicans with a Republican agenda, more or less, when it comes right down to it.
Well, Parker is "Libertarian Republican."

I keep reading that people concur that Michael Moore has some agenda and that he's highly opportunistic. I'll just say that just because his politics may be a liitle left to your own is no reason to villify him, especially just because South Park told you to do so. If anything, that makes you (& you know who you are, pinheads) the fucking Nazi(s) here.

Roger and Me is a classic and one of the best documentaries ever made. And despite whatever your criticism may be (I have some of my own), Fahrenheit 9/11, while maybe not a great movie as movies go, is an important documentary.

!@#$%! 04.05.2007 11:18 AM

ahhhhh..... but his footage was before or after the photos or what?

damn... well, making decisions when surrounded by a buch of predatory assholes is always difficult.

but even if he were a "self-serving dirtbag" (i don't think so, but who has ultimate proof), he's certainly a lot better than the criminal assholes who are the object of his investigations or call them whatever you want.

certainly a lot better than dennis fucking miller, who is a walking human turd.

atari 2600 04.05.2007 11:28 AM

Even as resident Weekend Update guy on SNL, one could detect that he's a bit of a smug asshole and probably drew much inspiration from emulating P.J. O'Rourke and doing the blow.

Of course, now, Dennis has put in foot in his mouth too many times to count with his Bush-loving and markedly unreasonable and highly indiscriminate liberal-bashing.

He recently came on The Daily Show to try and make himself look better to all the people he's alienated. He plugged his radio show, the only gig he has going, a tiny bit.

Talk radio is where Dennis Miller belongs. He's found his calling in life.
It's not too difficult to dislike him, !@#$%!.

atari 2600 04.05.2007 11:34 AM

I think it's fairly suspect though that Michael Moore is supporting Hillary Clinton. He probably has "gone Hollywood." He's gotten fatter and softer. That's humans for you. He certainly hasn't done his research in this case.

If you want to criticize him, then criticize him properly.

atari 2600 04.05.2007 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
im not going to get into it, because i know like 98% of you are liberals...

and well, im not.


You're just picking something else to hide behind.


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