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Cantankerous 11.12.2006 10:36 PM

no comment.

oh, look! i've just gone and contradicted myself again.

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 10:41 PM

chabib, could you describe that first installation for me? the all white one...

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
My bother is much better at things than i am on a regular basis(taking drugs is one of them.).Chris,i don't like your art and and i have seen its kind quite a few times before,There is no fight to be picked on the internet or else.Whatever you think,fine,but just because someone is more merciless than the 100s arselicking Sonic Youth fans that you get on a regular basis doesnt mean someone is up there for bitterness or else.Take it like
a man that i suspect you might be.Yes?


no no no, you crossed a line. Its alright to say you dont like the art, but you insulted him, so there should be no mercy..

im still waiting for some of that art man?

chabib 11.12.2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
My bother is much better at things than i am on a regular basis(taking drugs is one of them.).Chris,i don't like your art and and i have seen its kind quite a few times before,There is no fight to be picked on the internet or else.Whatever you think,fine,but just because someone is more merciless than the 100s arselicking Sonic Youth fans that you get on a regular basis doesnt mean someone is up there for bitterness or else.Take it like a man that i suspect you might be.Yes?


see, but the thing is--my reality's a lot bigger than a sonic youth message board.

atari 2600 11.12.2006 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chabib
you know, the guy who led the team that cracked the human genome bought some big installation i made for the wellcome trust. that's neat.

what sort of nobel-laureate-style folks out there can say they've got your stuff taking up space in their lives?


That's mighty impressive that his obviously massive intellect could appreciate your work.

Not so impressive here:

I donated a welded scrap iron sculpture to a public library when I was nineteen and they accepted it.

I had a friend buy a painting for $40.00 once.

I traded several paintings and used to go online to print out Aleister Crowley books for a black man in his eighties that was my drug dealer. He was my one and only art patron. He had an ex-wife that he claimed was hexing him by "burning candles" and doing voodoo. He saw my art and claimed that I "had a connection to the spirit world." A few years before that, I rented a two bedroom shack for $110.00 a month from a black preacher in his sixties and he had used the exact same words when he saw my paintings hanging: You have a connection to the spirit world.

A gay man once approached me at the library on the pretense of a Series 7 manual I was studying, can I buy it?, where did I get it?, etc...I talked to him and he said he once lived with Sartre and that he knew an art dealer. He took me out to dinner, we came back to my place, he made a pass at me, I declined, he bought a drawing for $20.00, he left, and that was that.

I donated pieces to an annual Mental Health benefit and Human Rights Festival a few times. One year, a copy of a Warhol "Harlequin" drawing that I had made into a painting went for the second highest amount in the auction...850.00...right behind some R.E.M.-autographed package deal.

Cantankerous 11.12.2006 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chabib
see, but the thing is--my reality's a lot bigger than a sonic youth message board.

you have previously indicated that with your adventures in namedropping.

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
That's mighty impressive that his obviously massive intellect cold appreciate your work.

Not so impressive here:

I donated a welded scrap iron sculpture to a pubic library when I was nineteen and they accepted it.

I had a friend buy a painting for $40.00 once.

I traded several paintings and used to go online to print out Aleister Crowley books for a black man in his eighties that was my drug dealer. He was my one and only art patron. He had an ex-wife that he claimed was hexing him by "burning candles" and doing voodoo. He saw my art and claimed that I "had a connection to the spirit world." A few years before that, I rented a two bedroom shack for $110.00 a month from a black preacher in his sixties and he had used the exact same words when he saw my paintings hanging: You have a connection to the spirit world.

I donated pieces to an annual Mental Health benefit and Human Rights Festival a few times. One year, a copy of a Warhol "Harlequin" drawing that I had made into a painting went for the second highest amount in the auction...850.00...right behind some R.E.M.-autographed package deal.


thats cool


hey porky, what kind of art have you done?

chabib 11.12.2006 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
chabib, could you describe that first installation for me? the all white one...



5-channel video installation. each video is me jumping rope around either a different piece of sculpture or, what i felt to be a beautiful construction site. i had microphones in my feet and on my collar. each mic was on it's own channel. i'd say things, count, hum or just let the ambient sounds around me filter thru the mics. i skipped rope on gravel, concrete, asphalt, sand and grass--so the different textures created different percussive rhythms. the 10 sound sources could be mixed discreetly with the mixers i built for the console. the mixes could be recorded to tapes on the recorder i built into the console.

everything was played loudly thru the amp.

porkie's seen it before though.

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
A lot.I obsess about refining my art and i do that with my own hands,not by using software of any kind.Drugs or alcohol alike might or might not help,tricky ground that you land on.



isnt this you pork?

Alex's Trip 11.12.2006 10:53 PM

Yay. At the risk of kissing ass: Chabib is pretty awesome.

And, IMO, Chabib's work is better than yours. Porky's is good too, it is interesting, but just not as good.

chabib 11.12.2006 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Nothing new but as you said,you get paid for it.To design the cover for the worst SY album in living memory,that is..


i've only ever done the SYR covers.

Alex's Trip 11.12.2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Nothing new but as you said,you get paid for it.To design the cover for the worst SY album in living memory,that is..

He didn't do the Rather Ripped cover, I believe. I remember he hated it as well.

Edit: yeah...

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
Yay. At the risk of kissing ass: Chabib is pretty awesome.
.


how could ass kissing on the message board possibly benefit anyone??

Alex's Trip 11.12.2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
how could ass kissing on the message board possibly benefit anyone??

It couldn't.

chabib 11.12.2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by alex's trip
He didn't do the Rather Ripped cover, I believe. I remember he hated it as well.


i hate that cover, and no... i didn't do it.

Cantankerous 11.12.2006 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chabib
that cover sucks, and no... i didn't do it.

thank god. you've just redeemed yourself.

atari 2600 11.12.2006 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chabib
5-channel video installation. each video is me jumping rope around either a different piece of sculpture or, what i felt to be a beautiful construction site. i had microphones in my feet and on my collar. each mic was on it's own channel. i'd say things, count, hum or just let the ambient sounds around me filter thru the mics. i skipped rope on gravel, concrete, asphalt, sand and grass--so the different textures created different percussive rhythms. the 10 sound sources could be mixed discreetly with the mixers i built for the console. the mixes could be recorded to tapes on the recorder i built into the console.

everything was played loudly thru the amp.

porkie's seen it before though.


Sounds like and looks a bit like a delightful Muybridge/Eno/Anderson mash-up.
If Sonic Youth everdo another video along the lines of "Little Trouble Girl" somewhat, then you should put that one in there.


I love this by Laurie Anderson. This would be my ideal way to learn Japanese:

 




"Wordfall"

"Wordfall" is an electronic artwork that was commissioned by World Expo 2005 in Aichi Japan. Japanese phrases are animated In a downward falling sequence on an LED panel. The English translations of the phrases appear to fall into an electronic pool, generating concentric waves of words. Synchronization is controlled by custom made software.

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex's Trip
It couldn't.


then its not brown nosing...

HaydenAsche 11.12.2006 11:07 PM

Kissing ass is kissing ass no matter where it is.

chabib 11.12.2006 11:07 PM

i'll be retiring to my palatial estate in the hamptons for a fortnight--paid for in full by the disposable income of the international jetset elite and the hipsters whose pocketbooks they love to exploit.

as my man-servant warms my feet between the cheeks of his moist, warm ass and my chauffer rests his head on a bale of hay out in the barn, a meal of the livers of poor, inner-city youth and tongues of the useless geriatric awaits me in the great-hall.

HaydenAsche 11.12.2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chabib
i'll be retiring to my palatial estate in the hamptons for a fortnight--paid for in full by the disposable income of the international jetset elite and the hipsters whose pocketbooks they love to exploit.

as my man-servant warms my feet between the cheeks of his moist, warm ass and my chauffer rests his head on a bale of hay out in the barn, a meal of the livers of poor, inner-city youth and tongues of the useless geriatric awaits me in the great-hall.


I'd join you but I'm a vegan.

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Chris,do i see an influence taken by Harry Smith's animations in your work?Am i hallucinating on drugs(i don't take) and alcohol?


this made me realize how interesting it would be to discuss art on these forums. we should do more of it.


for example, we should post art installations from around the world, talk about them and what not. it would definitely be a worthwhile topic, someone should start one.......cough porkmarras cough.......



seriously though, it would be better than talking about the raincoats for the 100th time........

Alex's Trip 11.12.2006 11:13 PM

This "Sex Bomb"?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ndID=709 3075

Cantankerous 11.12.2006 11:14 PM

no, this sex bomb.


 

Alex's Trip 11.12.2006 11:17 PM

Oh...what about this one?

 

atari 2600 11.12.2006 11:19 PM

Thurston Moore is gonna be remembered as a Harry Smith archivist-type of figure, only of underground music.

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
We could all make easy money in a quick way.you twat.I could rob old ladies and make as much dosh as you have quicker than you can dance to 'Sex Bomb'.You aint saying much about your derivative art tough....


i wasnt putting you down, porky, obviously you make some art, according to the others. i was saying that art topics would be much more useful than anything else on this board....


i

m^a(t)h 11.12.2006 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
It was for Twabib


ok/ sorry

atari 2600 11.12.2006 11:47 PM


 

You might have dedicated this cropped version to me.





 

This is one charming motherfucker!







 

Yeah, this is about right.







 

This dude is spray-painting himself! Please excuse moi for pointing out the obvious, but this properly qualifies the usage of the slang modifier: "Rad!"

chabib 11.12.2006 11:50 PM

stencils go back to the fucking caves of lascaux. graffiti goes back to ancient rome. satire in simple/clean/stark design goes back to dada, milton glaser and before both. none of that stuff you just posted is in any way unique. design is just design.

atari 2600 11.12.2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Then again,you americans are always short of artistic thought.


Pa-LEEze

The Abstract Expressionist school unseated Paris and Europe way back in the forties! After that came Pop which sealed the deal!

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Europeans cant do art,they can only have periods on paper.Period.


Considering a lot of the "Art" being made these days here, perhaps.

atari 2600 11.13.2006 12:00 AM

Your "rule" smacks of an irrational bias.

Bunbury 11.13.2006 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by atari 2600
Pa-LEEze
After that came Pop which sealed the deal!


didnt things first go pop in britain?

 

m^a(t)h 11.13.2006 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
European art schools are way more receptive than american ones and that is a fact.This is not to say that it would be slightly insane to think of an american as being an artist.These are the fucking rules,respect them.


of course, your rule is an opinion. an it seems as though you just took that line right out of a book, unless you have first hand experience with many American art schools.


im not saying your wrong. Living in America, i have only met two persons who are actually interesting and creative, but i doubt it would be different in Europe so...

Intellivision 11.13.2006 01:37 AM

He checked out the books you mention from the pubic library haha.
Got 'em on the old sure-I'll-loan-you-a-copy wink-wink-nudge-nudge he did.

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Originally Posted by (unmedicated) porkmarras
European art schools are way more receptive than american ones and that is a fact.


To begin with, Mr. willy-nilly word-slinger should define what in the hell he means by "receptive."

Intellivision 11.13.2006 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by m^a(t)h
thats cool


hey porky, what kind of art have you done?


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Originally Posted by porkmarras
none


That's hilarious!

You're such a fucking card!

Please notice I wrote "card" and not "cad," you nutty little nutball you.

nicfit 11.13.2006 06:25 AM

There's not a single thing in art that one can appreciate if he "decides" not to. And most of the times "older artists'works" influence more our opinions on "more modern pieces of art" than the artists that did those "more modern" pieces. Forgive my english. That said, i like some of Chabib's works, i don't like some others, but who actually cares? Probably not even you, Porkie... And back to the actual topic title, i don't even know exactly what he did for SY (or which of his pieces SY decided to use ), so i can't answer properly the poll. M'kay?

Tokolosh 11.13.2006 07:06 AM

Frankly, I'm a little disappointed in you chabib. Why would you have to explain yourself to a fucking boardie.
Also, the fact that your work sells is irrelevant, and doesn't mean shit.

porkmarrass 11.13.2006 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
A lot.I obsess about refining my art and i do that with my own hands,not by using software of any kind.Drugs or alcohol alike might or might not help,tricky ground that you land on.

If you've heard my Junkies Promise remix, you will comprehend that I am a superior, delicate artiste.

porkmarrass 11.13.2006 07:18 AM

Chabib, check your PMs.hehe.


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