Blue rules
Pinkerton might rule a little more
Green sucks it hard (except Hash Pipe, Photograph, and Don't Let Go)
Maldroit is listenable and has some good moments
Make Believe I found a considerably good. The song writing just seemed like it got pretty honest on most of that one.
I bought the Red Album cause I liked Pork N Beans. I didn't like anything on there but that one. I've tried to listen to the cd three times. I don't think I'll even try again.
And after that, I gave up.
Some people earlier on made a good point of saying that there's much better things to spend money on. Which is true, which is true.
But, they should take a god damn hint!
Did anyone know they did a song with Lil Wanye?

EDIT-Oh, and Bob Dylan rules. Free Wheelin Bob Dylan, John Wesley Harding, Highway 61, Bringing It All Back Home, Time Out Of Mind ect. ect.

I lol'd so hard hahahaha

The Blue Album and Pinkerton were some of my favourite albums as a kid.

Oh, and I've always thought Bob Dylan was shit.

Seriously man, to each his own, but if you're dismissing everything Dylan released that wasn't Blonde On Blonde (which is, incidentally, a decent candidate for my all time favourite album), I just feel sorry for you. You have cut yourself off from a vast number of the greatest songs ever written, in terms of just pure lyrical mastery as much as anything else. I mean for one, as a hip-hop fan, you should appreciate that no one ever flowed like Dylan. To say you'll never want to give the time of day to, say, 'It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)' because you think it sound a bit 60s, is like saying you can't be bothered with Shakespeare because some of the words are spelled funny.

As to Weezer, I've always liked what I've heard from the first 2 albums, but never got around to actually buying them. I'll get the Pinkerton reissue when it comes out, and expect to love it. Everything else I've heard by them has pretty much seemed totally sucky to me, so I just haven't listened to it. I'm going to go listen to 'Another Side Of Bob Dylan'.

Does the other side of him suck less?

In all seriousness though, my issue with Dylan isn't that he sounds 'a bit 60s', it's much more that he sounds a bit like a turd that's been floating too long in toilet water, and has started to decompose... with a harmonica. If I wanted to listen to quality 60's folk tunes I'd much sooner turn to The Mamas & the Papas or The Grass Roots, or hell - even Charles Manson!

Dr. Eugene, you might like Self Portrait becuz it's a horrible mess of shit on purpose. It's like a joke album. Also you might like Shot Of Love becuz of Daniel Lenois' production. And maybe you'd like albums recorded around the same time as Blonde On Blonde. I have I don't know 30-40 Bobby D albums. I love many. I won't pretend Blond On Fukking Blonde isn't my favorite though.

Weezer:
Blue - classic
Pinkerton - classic
Green - good
Maladroit - good
Make Believe - never heard the whole thing
Red - good
new one - haven't heard

but yeah there's a Lil Wayne song on there, so Dr Eugene mentioning him in this thread sort of had some synergy.

Iridion II is amazing. I'm so glad I beat it last night. THe end music is insane. Plus now I've unlocked the arcade mode and some other shit. It's such an amazing game though. My favorite GBA Shmups are Iridion II, Phalanx (port), and Invader. Anyway, playing Iridion II with an arcade stick just makes so much sense. It plays so smoothly that way. Highly recommended. Also I wanted to note that the soundtraack is available on Amazon.com as a mp3 download. It was only released on CD in low numbers in 2003, but got a digital re-release in the US this year. But if anyone can find me the actual CD I'd love to buy it.

As opposed to his other albums that are horrible messes of shit on accident? I'm good on that, dude. There are only so many hours in a day, and so many days in a week, and so on, and so forth; and there is so much music I've yet to expose myself to, as well as current favorites that I'd rather spend my time with. I only like listening to the best of the best... y'know, like the Insane Clown Posse! ;)

you'd be able to expose yrself to a lot more if it wasn't for all those Esham albums. haha

:o You sure do know how to make a boy blush!!

hahaha

I youtubed the song with Wayne. It's actually not that terrible. But, I'm sure if I heard it too much, I would hate it. shits mad repetitive

tired of sex is a godamn good song

I've never liked dylan, he's like jesus you can't criticize him, everyone worships his lyrics but his music is so boring and his recital so grating I can't pay attention. Of course, he did turn the Beatles onto pot and that changed everything...

I won't listen to Weezer past maladroit.....They lost me completely at Make Beleive.

I've never liked Dylan either, but he's probably a better songwriter than Rivers. Then again, any 12-year-old with a guitar is, so that's not saying much...

Wow, Weezer fans are suddenly seeming really stupid.

You take your car to work. I'll take my board. And when you're out of fuel. I'm still afloat.

Socialism; it can work

First of all:

Buddy Holly was more prolific than Bob Dylan.

I'll take raw rock n roll honesty over pretty words written by hippies.

2nd of all:

Pinkerton? Bland? WTF? There is so much raw energy and melodic intricate guitar work on that album. And its not compressed like the blue.

Half of the Blue Album is amazing. The other half is decent if not mediocre and cliche.

Pinkerton was their peak. Nuff said.

3rd:

Matt Sharp was River's saving grace, the two of them combined were WEEZER. Brian Bell wasnt even an original member I think...

Matt Sharp kept Rivers in check. He was the john lennon to rivers mcartney.

Thats why the rentals kicked ass and weezer without matt sharp suck dick.


4th: OZMA is better than weezer. At least their 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th records are. Their 1st record was probably equal to weezer.


5th: Wait Ozma only had 4 albums.


6th:

WHY THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WEEZER haha? for real

skronk skronk skronk *im just gonna go over here and skronk now*

"Melodic intricate guitar work"? Not sure what song you're describing, as the whole album is just power chords, except for a couple arpeggios. "Tired of Sex" has a pretty neat, mean riff... "The Good Life" sounds like that Everlcear song "Santa Monica" haha.. "El Scorcho" is neat, though, I like that sleazy little riff, and when it gets all punk and fast. I don't think the guitar work is intricate at all, but the songwriting was definitely more interesting than verse, chorus, verse like 99% of their output. I think the only really AMAZING song on the album is "Across the Sea". All in all, it's a decent 30 minute album with tons of filler. It's one of those albums you can put on with your girlfriend and sing together, and whee. Everyone's happy. It serves its purpose.

"WHY THE FUCK ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WEEZER haha? for real"

Because when people make threads about new bands, no one responds.

I also agree that Ozma were good, they sound more like Weezer than Weezer. I always thought Weezer were kinda trying to be the Cars but with this ironic lazy Pavement vibe at times (Pavement even namedrop Weezer in the Slanted and Enchanted deluxe album...).

I've often thought of Weezer as a watered down Pavement in many ways, and others have agreed with me.

...prog?... hm.

Doesn't Beverly Hills sound EXACTLY LIKE "I Love Rock N Roll"?

I said that ;)

And yeah I knew what you meant, they kindas branched out which was interesting, but I don't think they're very good at it.

I can't believe people are sending death threats to this guy. That really makes Weezer fans seem really retarded -- even moreso than they already did, by worshipping someone named "rivers".

By the way, I once dated a girl who once told me that before she messed around with dudes, she liked to look at rivers to get her "pussy wet". None of that shit ever happened with me, but she told me later that she went to a Weezer concert and had an orgasm while watching Rivers play guitar, without even touching herself. Weird chick.

Im talking about the guitar solos on pinkerton.

They were very melodic and intricate in the context of pop rock. Moreso than the blue album.

pink triangle, no other one, tired of sex, good life (slide solo), all had great melodic solos and they would trade off back and forth...also the moog on that record.

Especially the b-sides. Nice chord changes too.

Once again this is all in the context of weezer.

Ozma schooled them musically for sure though. They picked up on the direction of pinkerton and took it to the moon, doubble donkey disc is amazing nerd rock opera. and even some songs on rock n roll part 3 or whatever its called, like the intro to battlescars...sounds like the shins 3rd record b4 the shins even had their first record.

also, the lyrics are pinkerton are less trite and more honest. He wasnt trying to write hits. Though, tehy are still college freshmen type of depth, rather than blue albums highschool sophomore kind of depth.

The stakes are raised underneath my apathy.

I really enjoyed Weezer as a kid. Can't say I've listened to 'em much (quite honestly...) since around the time the blue album was still a relatively new release. Good straight ahead garage rock. Less than thought provoking lyrics (lyrics are something I tend to not care much about, either) but still sometimes funny/entertaining.

Kinda like the Pixies or REM or Pavement...shit just gets old after a while even if there may be songs I can still appreciate. As far as "rock" is concerned, it's just not dirty/raw enough for me. Lacks the sex and raw aggressiveness I tend to need whenever listening to rock music.

But still, not "bad" stuff by any means.