From what I read he wasn't really into it to start with. He actually enjoyed the obscene stuff she wrote, so it's not surprising if he had genuinely put it away and it got lost. Was it called 'up your ass' or something?

I very much doubt that was ni'k's intent in posting this. He's no sway.

I had a little laugh. Surprised he didn't do it earlier though.
Resentment, that's the word. He's full of it. His opinions are just a series of revenge tactics.

i guess i always have some room for always, particularly with internet personas, but i've seen him say that in various places, hence my premonitory (though undisclosed at the time) linking him with poor poor solanas. i was not surprised at all when he posted this (which i've read before).

of course not dear.i believe you.

no! i believe YOU! you are the internet supreme leader and messiah. you're our kim-jong-il and jim jones combined! we strive to follow the shining path of ni'k thought unto interweb revolution. hasta la victoria siempre and bring on the apocalypse!

it was a link to read all your posts, because your words speak on your behalf, not that anyone would be remotely interested. but you know how the song goes, wont get trolled again.

very nice dear. i'll certainly heed the implied criticism from a fine, upstanding and sane democratic citizen such as yourself. but i'm afraid you are still falling into the boring trap, and i'll have to excuse myself, since i know from experience your quite happy to drag it out for at least 7 pages.

a login screen? have i been sent to the gulag?

I have a phobia of links. Can you please just describe the internet content you are directing me too?

yeah, it has since been performed. and he did seem to have genuinely lost it, since it was found at the bottom of one of his trunks after his death.

scum is a fascinating piece, it does seem to have some foreshadowing of the situation we are fast apporaching. soon, sperm will be able to be manufactured in a lab to a higher quality than what a human male can produce. thus rendering male sexuality in a way obsolete, or at least in dire need of a fresh justification for its existance. considering the technological potential in transhumanism thru genetic engineering, we will probably soon be facing a time when a certain conception of "natural masculinity" will become widely recognised as something of a conservative fetish. after all, why keep our current biological set up, it being so imperfect and prone to flaws. if we can produce better quality sperm in laboratories, then why does anyone necessarily have to be born with that particular sequence primed to occur in its genetic code? males that don't pass through puberty tend to be prone to less diseases than their counterparts. you can imagine the counter arguement, which i'm sure will go something like "its dangerous to alter ourselves too much, less we irreparably alter for the worse". it opens up a fascinating area of thought, which will (and is already?) engendering a profound existential crisis in male subjectivity. something like a literal castration anxiety, haha.

and i feel that its criminal to expect women to go through the labour of childbirth, if you have technology that can act as an artificial womb. such technology is on the horizons, and it would liberate women from the risks associated with "natural birth". of course there will be a backlash, but isn't there something blatantly cruel in expecting a woman to perform that labour herself if a safer and easier alternative is available. i realise that the technology will of course not be perfected as soon as it appears, but it would seem unlikely that it won't at some point surpass "natural" childbirth in safety and quality.

we do seem to be approaching a point in our technological development were the idea of the "natural human" becomes a liability, one component among many with its flaws, advantages and particular characteristics, rather than that which is the central focus of our civilisation to preserve.

what i like about scum, is that it has a unique "madness" that treats the idea of being "male" as some horrendous abberation that can only fail if it tries to justify its right to exist. by basically advocating gendercide, she opens up a space in which we can better imagine the dissolution of the gender binary, which is something that i feel will soon be a reality.

and i think since there is a certain correlation in the way that liberal society treats homosexuality, as an abberation or exception to the rule, despite making slight concessions to tolerance, if not yet the positive or ethical benefits of it - valerie was able to recognise that someday the tables will be turned, and it will be the current oppressive position that will be in the docks facing charges of existential invalidity.

i still have no qualms in saying that there is nothing in any way natural about white male heterosexual authority and the oppression that comes with it, and it has only arisen due to particular material conditions. it's an obstacle in the progress of humanity that we need to destroy. and at this point it has been very blatantly and visibly exposed for the christian madness it always was, and its tactics of violent assault against women, foreign races, gays etc. are and always have been the only way it can maintain its illegitimate privelege. that's why reading certain feminist bloggers and authors is so exciting to me right now. and also i wouldn't also be condeming this authority if i didn't also think that it was damaging and painful for those that wield it aswell. and not that i would dare question their right to talk over everyone else, or freedom of speech as they call it, but its not like the smug sarcasm/irony bros seem to be coming from a particularily pleasant or admirable place...

its even weirder when you go to a club where regulars beg women to step on them.

Nick/?!@:) - why do you not write public poems to each other? Go on.

Brave New World, that's what you want?

There's no sense in producing human beings in factories or laboratories, because robots are much more efficient.

i havent actually read brave new world. but i do think thats a bit of a simplification.

the point is - what is the distinction between human and robot? think hard enough and i don't think you can really find it, just different places to draw a line between the two. are people who have prosthetic limbs robots? or just their arms? what if the only non prosthetic part of them is their head? what about putting a prosthetic brain into a human body? and what would be the difference between a prosthetic brain, a brain grown in the lab and a brain that only exists in the genetic code of a fathers sperm, and would take a partner and a few years to grow to a specific size? thats why i like reading about transhumanism, because it shows you there are no clear definitions of these things, and any that we have are just abstract groupings to categorically seperate matter.

the question should also be "why make humans "naturally" instead of making something different that's much more efficient.

You really do talk a lot of shit don't you.

i dont see how anything i've said is more "shit" than a troll attempt to make someone think what they say is illegitimate. but i'll leave that to your expertise.

I don't know.

I don't agree with this whole preaching "natural" child birth, when certain drugs and C-sections can make it a loss less painful. I do believe that should be a woman's choice. I would never mind being cut open, but certain places (like the uk) do not give you the choice. I think it's probably more a money thing rather than "it's better for you" thing, since most doctors saying that are male and never went through that bullshit themselves.

In the case of the UK, I think it's a contradiction that they won't perform C-sections when requested by a woman (even women who have a phobia of childbirth), but they allow women to choose to get an abortion. I guess that means the whole motivation behind these decisions is more economic than "giving women the choice over their own bodies and reproductive systems".

But you're forgetting that women who wanna be mothers want to go through pregnancy and the whole hormonal thing and the whole experience.
Life changing or not, it's an important part of developing a connection, instincts for both men and women.

The idea that women have to take "control" in order to eliminate sexism and that it would make anything better is kind of naive and absurd. Would genocide, discrimination and war not exist if all societies were matriarchalist? Doubt it. That suggests that men are not victims of sexism - and they are, only not as harshly, generally. It also suggests some kind of pre-established behaviour. Sort of like what happened in the past 20 years, when being a housewife and a mother is seen as being a bum and a submissive twat. So now, women are forced to be a housewife, a mother, a sucessful professional, behave like men in the workspace, behave like a sex beast at home, be thin, young, well-dressed and educated, otherwise, YOU ARE NOT LIBERATED.

Being liberated is a lot of work.

i agree about the women who want to go through pregnancy, however won't we soon be facing the question - why keep creating women that even have that particular biological system in the first place? and yes you are totally right with the developing a connection point. it's been discovered that one of the most crucial stages in parents and child developing a bond is just after birth, when their close contact causes certain enorphin like chemicals to be released into the parents brains. and so for mothers who have a history of substance abuse, their brains are less capable of experiencing this chemical release as strongly, and so the bond can be less strong that it could have been. my point is why leave all these processes intact for the sake of some sort of naturalism. after all, by even eating food you are altering the structure and composition of your brain. so when we begin to map and master these components of the human body why wouldn't we start altering and refining them, hell why wouldn't we even scrap them alltogether and develop something else?

what i'm proposing is not that women "take control" of the existing order, but that the creatin of a new social order (something we are in dire need of) must necessarily liberate women from the position they have now instead of replicating it. i don't know enough about histories examples of matriarchys, but don't they open up a whole new realm of potential benefits compared to what we have now?

and like you say, being "liberated" is hard work, and its a strain that people can only seem to bear fictiously. i see it more as capitalisms innovative compromise with the discontent that always threatens to destroy it, and it seems to mask a lot of the unfair demands that women are actually burdened with.

No. You'll go back in history and find the same abuse, barbaric behaviour and hierarchical systems in most matriarchal societies. Morals and values are not gender generated, for the most part. There are countless aspects of biology, history and culture that brought us to where we are today. I don't believe in any "revolution" that'd change everything for the better, there's a slow process of improvement here and there, and different cultures are living very different stages. Human history is mostly bloody and horrible, we're a little bit better off than ever in certain parts of the world at the moment.

If you think you have the answer, and your answer is right. If you think "why create women that have that biological system in the fist place", then you are thinking something fascist, no?

I'm not really into sci-fi.

i don't agree that its facist. i'm just asking the question - wouldn't the real facism be to refuse to ask that question and thus force people to keep reproducing in a particular way because you are afraid of technology disrupting the "natural" order.

i'm talking about when it will become a choice to keep creating people the way they are now instead of altering them somehow. i mean after all when you decide to have a baby with a particular partner aren't you making a choice about what that baby is going to be like and what genes its going to have? what about when you have a situation were the knowledge of your genome and your partners genome is there, and also the genome of the child you will have and so what characteristics that child will have over its life. surely then the facism is to say "i don't want to know about any of this, i want to keep things natural". if there is technology to avoid say certain diseases from appearing in a child, then it makes sense to stop certain genes from circulation. of course this opens up a whole new space of power dynamics. but to repeat myself, i think the real facism is refusing to allow people access to these potentialities, because by doing so you are condemning them to reproduce, behave and exist in a particular way.

and i take your point about matriarchies, but surely the barbarity and abuse aren't exactly the same as in patriarchy, i dont see how patriarchy is any better. couldn't we just change for variation at least! seriously tho, i don't know enough about this to argue sufficiently. the whole debate about our ancestral links to matriarchal bonobos and patriarchal chimpanzees is interesting tho.

I didn't say refuse, I meant enforce.

nik, exhibiting authoritarian tendencies? nooooooooooo!!!!! how can that be???


i would write him poems in the style of the shining path's paeans to Presidente Gonzalo, but if he writes me back he could later claim i stole it & he'd actually get out of his room to come shoot me, and i fear bullets.

but since you ask:

Pensamiento Gonzalo, Garantía de Triunfo Hasta el Comunismo.
Por los 16 años de la Guerra Popular Victoriosa.

Te encerraron entre cuatro rejas
te aislaron del mundo entero
creen que con eso van a apagar
las llamas de la revolución
¡Pero tu pensamiento es luz poderosa!
que esta en la mente de tu pueblo
y los pueblos del mundo.
Aullan los lobos y chacales
desde el estiercol, ante su impotencia
de frenar la Guerra Popular
te atacan, te insultan
refunfuñan, maquinan negros
y siniestros planes
como que son bestias heridas de muerte
¡Pero jamás podrán mellar tu pensamiento!

Tiran barro al acero
tratan de quitarte tu pensamiento
quieren acallar tu voz
quieren asesinarte
¡Pero no podrán acallar la encendida espada de tu alma!

Podran desaparecerte
despedazarte en mil pedazos
romper tus huesos
hasta podran matarte
¡Pero jamás podrán quebrarte!
tu pensamiento está en cada obrero, en cada campesino,
esta en cada dirigente que forjaste.

Pensamiento Gonzalo
es la Guerra Popular hasta el comunismo
es la conquista del poder en todo el
país
es la Revolución Proletaria Mundial
no es paz, no es rendición
no es traición,
es la violencia revolucionaria encarnada.

Querido Jefe
buén tiempo no estás con nosotros
pero nos armaste
para afrontar cualquier dificultad
tu obra la proseguimos
la Guerra Popular no se ha detenido
y no se detendrá hasta el comunismo.
¡Mantendremos en alto la gran bandera
roja
es tu decisión, tu voluntad
inquebrantable
es poder para la clase y el pueblo!

¡SALVO EL PODER TODO ES ILUSIÓN!

Camaradas,
no dudeis de nuestro jefe
de su pensamiento, de su ideología si aplicamos los principios
justos y correctos
jamás nos van a derrotar
la Guerra Popular es invencible
gana la guerra quién tiene ideología
superior
y nosotros la tenemos.

La reacción nos quiere
despojar de nuestro Pensamiento Gonzalo
nos quiere quitar el alma
¡Eso jamás!
Todo podrán quitarnos
menos la ideología.

Venceremos
porque tenemos ideología que es arma
más poderosa, invencible sobre la tierra
el Marxismo-Leninismo-Maoismo,
Pensamiento Gonzalo
un partido comunista en armas
una Guerra Popular victoriosa.

Nuevo poder que se desarrolla
¡no nos van a derrotar!
¡Nada ni nadie puede detenernos!
¡El Pensamiento Gonzalo es garantía de
victoria hasta el comunismo!

El Pensamiento Gonzalo está con nosotros
en cada uno de nosotros se agita y
palpita
la Guerra Popular sigue en marcha
con el Pensamiento Gonzalo,
somos sus continuadores
no dejaremos las armas
hasta el comunismo.
Somos forja del Presidente Gonzalo
invicto comunista, ¡acero puro!

Camaradas,
la palabra rendición
no existe para nosotros
nos hemos levantado en armas
para conquistar el poder en todo el país
hasta el comunismo con Guerra Popular
y no nos detendremos ante nadie
mientras quede un comunista
todo se volverá a levantar
es nuestra convicción inquebrantable
estamos plenamente convencidos
de que algún día ¡Las banderas rojas
del comunismo flameara en todo el país y en el mundo!

¡Viva el Presidente Gonzalo y su Poderoso Pensamiento!
¡Viva la Guerra Popular Victoriosa!

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replace "gonzalo" with "ni'k", and it's a readymade

what is huesos

ok, i'm not talking about some forced eugenics programme, hatched by a despotic techno facist regime, altho it would be fun to fake official looking documents relating to one and send them anonymously to infowars.com. my point is just that if you don't explore these technologies or block access to them you are forcing people to live by a certain set of conditions, which is also a form of facism.

Right. It's like what they are doing now with the smokes. They don't want me to smoke because it can cost them money and it costs them money while I'm working and take breaks and I might get sick and need time off work before I'm too old. So they'll go around saying that I shouldn't smoke and then slowly creating laws that treat me like a criminal. Of course, that's a shit example.

But if such technologies become available at some point, don't you think most goverment would try to enforce them in some way? Healthy workers, less medical bills, we'll watch you reproduction even closer than WE ALREADY DO TODAY.

bones

the 1st poem is actually a thinly veiled and poor plagiarism of a really good poem called "canto coral a tupac amaru"

I thought it had something to do with huevos. But now it makes sense.

those tend to get tortured a lot too. do a search on "picana". owwww!

i see no huevos.

that's a woman, there in the picture. those bastards have no qualms whatsoever.

well, you could argue there are huevos inside her ovaries. i wonder if they are being fried. horrible.

to think about all that as emanating from some "them" that acts in unison is the mistake. some people make money off your brains addiction to nicotine and your bodies drive to swap them coins for the product which delivers it. some of them make money being hired to promote campaigns to get you to smoke less so you are a more healthy/productive worker and save money for others.

i think what we are seeing there, and also with junk food and dieting, is capitalism trying to make us both binge and purge constantly, so that it can make more money of us.

i can see how a goverment would (will) try to harness these technologies for its own ends. but at the same time only under a totalitarian system could it hope to enforce its rules on everyone, and even then they would only be able to make it difficult for people, not impossible - like in china now with its policy of 1 child per family.

and also, aren't we effectively already genetically engineering ourselves already, considering the fact that our allocation and witholding of resources among particular people creates situations were particular people breed in particular scenarios and in a particular numbers. for example, it can be argued that due to say, all the adults in germany's refusal to stop breeding en mass and allocate all their resources to a particular african village, they are directly determining factors in the reproduction in that village. during the irish famine, a particular english minister refused to send a massive surplus of food to ireland. that decision affected the lives and reproduction of a massive amount of people. look at the catholic church and its views on abortion, women and birth control, didn't it effectively function as a system of reproducitive regulation? so doesn't our current ignorance of the scientific knowledge to harness our reproduction and genetic code to the full exist only as a temporary obstacle?

i don't think it will be a case of governments monitoring and controlling reproduction even more than they do already, it will be instead a collective expansion of the knowledge of how our actions already dictate how, when and were we reproduce and what exactly it is we are reproducing. there may indeed be abuse of this technology, in fact its almost garaunteed, but isn't it just ludditte to ignore it?

it will be a matter of the knowledge we have of the things we do now that effect our reproduction in ways we cannot yet see, and with that the ability to alter our behaviours and how they effect our reproduction.

the revolution will be in the changing conception of agency we attach to ourselves. right now we have a long overdue for a overthrow system of "democratic" politicians and governments standing in for god. right now, we leave a lot of these areas up in the air because we haven't had to ability to concioussly do much about them so far. its our democratic conception of self and how that relates to our expectations of what a government is and what its capable or entitled to do that is the only thing we can say with certainty won't last. if the system we have in the future is anything like the one we have now i'm sure it will have its regulations and conflicts. but who is to say what government will have control over it?

i dont see it as being about if these particular technologies become available, but more a matter of when the obstacles in their way evaporate, be they lack of innovation, research or just time.

back in the stone ages, people bred in a particular way, they had no choice for it to happen any other way. we are the same now, and we will be the same even in the future when we have all these now hypothetical technologies. just look at it the other way round, it was the material conditions of the stone age that produced a particular set of humans, the material conditions of this century that produced us, and the conditions of the future that produced those humans. there's nothing facist about this, the only facism is insisiting on clinging to an antiquated idea of what is natural and normal, or organo-facism as i've seen it called.

Nobody knows what is natural and/or normal.