The problem with cutting down is that you just spend the whole time looking forward to the precious next one, which then tastes/feels all the nicer because you've waited for it.

cutting down has never worked for me, always seemed like a cop out. that drawing idea is excellent. i think i will try to do something similar with gtr.

the doctor advised this woman i know to cut down and never quit cold turkey.
because he said there could be severe side effects to just quitting.
and she did have migraines and faint.
so he gave her these pills and she cut down and a month later she quit, it has been 6 months, and she keeps preaching to me about these pills.
they must be antidepressants or something, to help with the withdrawal depression.

if you are a heavy smoker, the crash from lack of nicotine will definitely give you fucking MONSTER headaches, and therefore it is best to slow down for a few weeks to get your body used to lesser nicotine before going full out cold turkey.

I smoked for 10 yeatrs, quit for 4, started smoking clove cigs during my divorce, and quit those after a year. I now smoke no cigs, but enjoy 2-3 cigars a week.

the feeling of not being winded, of full lung capacity, of being able to swim for an hour without heaving, is a wonderful feeling.

i think replacing cigs with cigars could the trick, you'll still get nicotine but you can't smoke as much and won't inhale

I tried to do it I was smoking cigars all the time and smelling bad.

greatest motivation post to quit smoking.

if you smoke premium stuff you'll smell incredible and won't have money for cigarettes

well, i dont even know what premium stuff is i was just craving.

!!!!!!


yeah I heard it's harder to quit when you have a routine in. My routine is very simple when it comes to cigs. I mainly smoke after a bowl/blunt/joint or when I'm getti'n drunk or some shiz...

Other than that...I can go without smoking for a while.

I was wrong when I assumed that you were a facist non-smoker.

it turns out that yr just stupid.

cue: pity

Three cheers for virtual cock measuring sessions. No more douche-callings y'all. Peace and love

pointing out poor and circuitous logic has nothing to do with the (gigantic) size of my cock.

its easy to say that, but when EVERY FUCKING CELL IN YOUR BODY IS SCREAMING and you know the anxiety could so easily be calmed by just a stupid smoke...sometimes our own biochemistry is our enemy.

I wish I knew more about dopamine issues. I do know the electric cigarette provides a nicotine release with flavor - who knows if it is really safe - but at least you aren't bringing all that carbon and chemicals and holding it in your lungs.

Well nobody's a douche, it's just a misunderstanding of logic.

Wellcharge - I think what floatingslowly means is that since YOU never quit yourself you don't personally know how difficult it is for n'ik to quit. Every brain is different... and many people would continue if they had a cigarette shoved down their throat. For example, the first time I did a shotgun blast with a buddy, the joint escaped my teeth, and blew straight down his throat and got stuck. He had to cough it out and apparently it was nasty. He's probably the biggest pot smoker / dealer I know now :p

Yeah, I think Zyban is a help-quit-smoking pill. It is also an anti-depressant under another name. Wellbutrin?

I think you just restated what I said. You want another word in place of choice? How about battle? You are at war with yourself. But the only person that is going to keep you from doing _x_ is you. It is ultimately your choice to do _x_ or _y_.

Luckily, I've never been strongly addicted. Smoked a good deal of cigarettes this summer. Was fairly hooked on pot a while back Pot was somewhat easier since I need to really go out of my way to get it while you can get cigs just about anywhere. But yeah, over the summer, I said "This is my last pack" about 50 times.

i have quit before but that's not what he means anyways, he already said what he meant: I was wrong when I assumed that you were a facist non-smoker. it turns out that yr just stupid.

ni'k just switch to pot.

i had some very bad cannabis psychosis ha so i'm off it for good. anyway i'm going to go off the cigs tonight, wish me luck motherfucks, if i get stressed out and crave i will instead take out my frustration by being a dick on this message board! yay! so i am launching this new abstinence with some fresh ferraro jams and green tea. i am going to use the ferraro jams to meditate on the damaged chakra channels that access zebra light crystals levitating in the boner windmill angels of spherical peacock anal bead neptune gem yoga concioussness so i can reach enlightenment as to the root cause of my addiction and how i can be cured.

I caught my mum smoking my dad's pipe once. She ran out of cigarettes and just had to smoke something to satiate her desire.

Just have a wank son.

*sniggers*

\

after 6 months it was a lot better, but still would get real cravings from time to time (couple 3 times a week, maybe?)


I smoked from 15 to 35-- 20 years! I used the patch and it worked for me (barely)

im not allowed to smoke in my room anyways

it wouldnt be worth the pain

no, if you weren't so dense (and still buttsore about gypsies) you would see that that is exactly what I'm saying.

along with yr failure in logic (retards->successfully quit. retards->can't successfully quit) you still smoke yrself!

but that's only because you don't want to and NOT because you can't.

taste the full-flavored hypocrisy!

fat.lazy and semi-retarded morons have quit smoking

i said that fat,lazy and semi retarded people quit, i didn't say that retards do, although it's likely happened. and i didn't imply that not quitting makes you a retard, i said it means you are unsuccessful at something retards have probably done, i never implied that makes you a retard yrself, otherwise everyone who hasn't made it to the special olympics would be a retard.

continuing to smoke because you want to smoke, is very different than wanting to stop yet continuing. i definitely did not call nik a retard, or imply that he was incapable of stopping, rather i implied that pretty much anyone is capable of stopping. no hypocrisy is present, except on yr end.

taste the full flavoured hypocrisy

if you promise to cut yr fingers off i would be willing to officially quit smoking long term? i need the fingers in the mail within a month however for proof

i quit on christmas day, it's going ok, i get tempted very at work though, whenever something shit happens i just want to nip out for a fag and some solace, that's what i need to find a replacement for.
my chest feels much cleaner for quitting, and my smoker cough has gone.

why would I cut off my fingers to save you?

just because I caught you giving out net-advice without a permit does not mean that I care what you do with yr life.

in fact, I want to you keep smoking!
:)

in sheer desperation i did once try to make a roll up out of the contents of a tea bag.

Ugh, the idea of quitting alone makes me cringe! My advice is to start chewing gum every time you want a cig. It worked for my grandfather and he hasn't smoked in over 30 years. Anyways, good luck ni'k!

that explains a lot

not trying to sound like dad but
whoever says i quit when i want
is still in denial


haha and the teabag
who hasnt

i've never been a smoker long enough to become addicted. Both parents smoked constantly through my childhood in the house though, and i guess that may be the reason i rarely do get a real craving for it.

I'd never consider becoming a regular smoker.. There are far more fun addictions to have. Sometimes the smell can be comforting, but i think again that is a childhood thing.

I do however, well have in the past, had issues with pain killers. They are awful to try and remove from yr life. So i can somewhat sympathise..

I think honestly for me the only way was to remove all my bad habbits at once, at least while i was getting over it. I stopped drinking, no weed, and didn't take anything that came in pill form. I also made a real effort to eat very healthy and get more exercise. I'm not sure why that worked the best for me.. Whether having more things to think about took the focus off a little, or removing the ridiculous amount of downers from my system gave me a better point of view from which to tackle moments of weakness..

I smoked to the point that I started to want another cigarette, which frightened me from smoking anymore cigarettes.

Still have my pipe, though. An essential accessory to the ostentatious philosophile.

After cutting down first, I would still hold in my mind the persistence of how much I really do love to smoke. I love to inhale, I love to take a break from whatever I'm doing, I love summer nights on the deck alone in silence with a cigarette, I love different kinds of smokes. That's what would come up every few minutes or so when I'd remember: time for a smoke.

But after about 4-6 months (I have a broken hippocampus), that psychological attachment stopped sitting at the forefront of my mind, and 2 years later (for the past year though actually) I can honestly say that I still agree with all those statements but in a faraway, unattached, unimportant way. Having a cigar once in a while is enough for me, I just dont care that much anymore. And being so removed from it makes me feel relief that at least THAT dependency/barrier doesnt exist - life gives you enough as it is, without your control involved.

So ultimately it's about getting over the physical addiction, and yeah I'm not surprised to hear that anti-depressants are perscribed to quit smoking - it's tightly linked to dopamine. Maybe try taking some amino acids and herbs linked to supporting dopamine production in a gentle non-pharmaceutical way. I know that the amino acid L-Tyrosine is what's used to make dopamine, and you can buy that in a store.

Alteredcourse, indeed. Ever consider studying medicine? You know, if you aren't already.

I am currently dating a smoker. She's sexy.

I smoke like two or three cigarettes a week. Sometimes I just crave that smooth nicotine glow. I can see why people would want that in their life -- but personally, cigarettes just seem like such a cheap thrill. I'm more for big thrills.

So, what am I trying to say?

Shoot paint thinner in your dick instead.

Unless you're a girl.

Oh, and perhaps you should just quit, and if possible, overdose on ambien for like 2 weeks and then you will have slept through all the shitty side effects.

i quit smoking three years ago , but since last month i start a daily habit ( i don't know why ) of one cig. after lunch with the coffee...that's it , one per day...feels good but damn! i broke my smoke abstinence of 3 years.

42.5 hours clean.